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| [11:07:26] | <ergonlogic> | why bother asking a question if you won't hang around for an answer? |
| [11:08:04] | <zumweb> | :-) |
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| [11:26:30] | <zumweb> | So, I guess the premise in using Aegir is when your customer doesn't have access to install other modules? Right? This would cause complications... So keeping everything on a tight scheme is the way to go. |
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| [11:43:26] | <frodopwns_> | I just put up my server and already some thug from Ukraine is tryign to brute force into it |
| [11:43:27] | <frodopwns_> | lame |
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| [11:59:38] | <frodopwns_> | I hope to one day have my jenkins in IRC |
| [11:59:58] | <frodopwns_> | sadly the mean folks have ignored my firewall request |
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| [12:35:18] | <frodopwns_> | anyone use tsung? |
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| [12:53:38] | <ergonlogic> | zumweb: with provisionacl you can get pretty far, but probably something like mod-itk is really required |
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| [16:34:06] | <frodopwns> | finally tsung has been owned |
| [16:34:17] | <frodopwns> | no thanks to #tsung |
| [16:34:23] | <frodopwns> | or #erlang |
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| [18:24:38] | <realityloop> | seen omega8cc |
| [18:24:38] | <hefring> | omega8cc was last seen in #aegir 3 days 21 hours ago saying 'h_efring: tell kepford: last line in /var/log/barracuda_log.txt'. |
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| [23:05:39] | <Michel__> | hello |
| [23:05:39] | <hefring> | bonjour |
| [23:05:50] | <Michel__> | new to aegir here |
| [23:06:03] | <Michel__> | i manage to install BOA |
| [23:06:32] | <Michel__> | hopefully i can learn some more about aegir |
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| [23:07:14] | <Michel__> | is quite complex i still don't understand completely |
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| [23:28:29] | <siliconmeadow> | Is there any reason that the following three commands should NOT be used on the files directory of ANY aegir hosted site?: |
| [23:28:50] | <siliconmeadow> | chown -R aegir:www-data files |
| [23:29:39] | <siliconmeadow> | find ./files -type d -exec chmod 2770 {} \; |
| [23:29:53] | <siliconmeadow> | find ./files -type f -exec chmod 660 {} \; |
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| [23:31:43] | <siliconmeadow> | The reason I ask is, every time I import a site (which I get from a platform that has the site within already) I end up having to do this on the files directory |
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| [02:14:41] | <mvc> | siliconmeadow: that should be fine. you might have to do something similar for private/ too, though |
| [02:15:07] | <mvc> | aegir can also manage permissions using unix groups & extended acl's: http://drupal.org/project/provisionacl |
| [02:15:45] | <mvc> | but if you run that on the source site, i think those settings should be retained during import |
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| [02:25:27] | <ecorson> | why do the ukrainians wan tho get into my p4 optiplex so bad? |
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| [02:29:19] | <ecorson> | is aegis going to kill me if i want it to treat two servers as a load balanced platform? |
| [02:33:48] | <mvc> | ecorson: no, but things get complicated if you're hosting ssl sites (since they need a unique IP address each, things get slightly complicated) |
| [02:34:30] | <ecorson> | no ssl so far |
| [02:34:49] | <ecorson> | mostly relying on the vpn to protect our users |
| [02:37:54] | <mvc> | so you should be fine (and fwiw better ssl support is current top on anarcat's todo list) |
| [02:38:08] | <mvc> | well, his todo list of new aegir features, at least :) |
| [02:39:08] | <mvc> | can we all just take a moment to remember how evil winxp is for making support for multiple ssl domains per IP impossible? *sigh* |
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| [02:50:57] | <ecorson> | up to this point i have been blissfully ignorant about tssl in general |
| [02:51:00] | <ecorson> | i want to go back |
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| [02:57:12] | <BobSP> | mvc: is that a winxp issue or a SSL issue in general? |
| [02:57:52] | <BobSP> | the idea of SSL is securing your connection, and using the ´host-header´ (used to support multiple domains on a single IP in the first place) can only be sent after the connection is set up |
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| [03:05:42] | <mvc> | BobSP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication#Browsers_with_suppor... |
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| [05:49:33] | <bakersman> | Hi! In my Aegir instance, "drush make-generate example.make" fails with "Unable to create .make file". I've tried it both in sites/example.com and in sites/example.com/modules, in case it was a permissions error. Google doesn't have much on this error. Thoughts? |
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| [06:01:38] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: have you tried at the root of the platform? |
| [06:01:41] | <ergonlogic> | </wi12 |
| [06:05:41] | <bakersman> | ergonlogic: trying now... |
| [06:06:45] | <bakersman> | No, same error. |
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| [06:13:55] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: so, it needs to be run from a site dir |
| [06:14:07] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: and it'll drop the makefile at the root of the platform |
| [06:14:43] | <ergonlogic> | if the problem is at the stage where it's writing the makefile, ensure the platform root is writeable by the aegir user |
| [06:15:03] | <bakersman> | ergonlogic: Oh, I see. |
| [06:15:17] | <ergonlogic> | also, I'm not sure it'll overwrite an existing makefile... |
| [06:15:36] | <ergonlogic> | which could conceivably be the problem too. |
| [06:15:48] | <bakersman> | ergonlogic: I guess there's no way to specify an alternate location to write the file? |
| [06:16:09] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: you could try giving a full path, instead of just a filename |
| [06:16:23] | <bakersman> | ergonlogic: Hey, good thought, I'll try that. |
| [06:16:40] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: let us know |
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| [06:18:02] | <bakersman> | ergonlogic: Excellent! Yes, a full path worked. |
| [06:18:14] | <bakersman> | ergonlogic: A relative path, like ./example.make, did not. |
| [06:18:26] | <bakersman> | But the full path did. Very cool. Thanks very much. |
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| [06:38:22] | <frodopwns> | how does aegir handl efiles when workgin with load balanced servers? |
| [06:40:16] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: glad to hear it |
| [06:40:21] | <anarcat> | it doesn't, that's your job :) |
| [06:40:36] | <anarcat> | the cluster package sets up nfs for you |
| [06:40:41] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: that could be worth documenting in the handbook ;) |
| [06:40:56] | <ergonlogic> | hey anarcat |
| [06:41:02] | <frodopwns> | k jsut checking, our clusters are using some network storage |
| [06:41:26] | <frodopwns> | anarcat: btw I was able to get aegir workign about 2 hours after you logged off the other night |
| [06:42:54] | <frodopwns> | so thanks for the help |
| [06:43:23] | <anarcat> | hey ergonlogic |
| [06:43:33] | <anarcat> | frodopwns: awesome |
| [06:57:55] | <bakersman> | ergonlogic: good thought about adding a note in the handbook. Do you mean on drupal.org? Like here: http://drupal.org/drush-faq |
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| [07:25:25] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: So, D8 requires php5.4 (?), and that'll be standard in wheezy, both of which should be released within a year |
| [07:25:59] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: Is supporting php5.4 something we need to consider for aegir2 |
| [07:26:15] | <ergonlogic> | or is it more likely to be a point release? |
| [07:27:00] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: also, I was thinking it might be worthwhile to organize an Aegir code sprint in early January |
| [07:27:48] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: after which we could essentially call a feature freeze, and start working on alpha releases |
| [07:28:06] | <ergonlogic> | ? |
| [07:29:32] | <bakersman> | ergonlogic: Actually, thinking it over, this is a slight bug in drush make, since the error message doesn't give more info. I opened an issue: http://drupal.org/node/1860496 |
| [07:29:33] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1860496 => Unable to create .make file => Drush, Make, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [07:31:20] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: while drush-make has been merged into drush itself, in the current stable Aegir release, we're running on Drush 4, and drush-make is a contrib extension |
| [07:31:43] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: so this might already be fixed in drush 5/6 |
| [07:31:46] | <ergonlogic> | just fyi |
| [07:32:16] | <bakersman> | ergonlogic: cool, thanks. |
| [07:33:35] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: just be prepared for the issue to be 'closed(won't fix)', since there is no 'Make' component in Drush 'All-versions-4.x-dev' |
| [07:34:04] | <ergonlogic> | and the original drush_make project is all but abandoned |
| [07:34:24] | <ergonlogic> | bakersman: still... good reflex to submit an issue :) |
| [07:35:34] | <bakersman> | ergonlogic: heh. Yeah, I just figure it will be searchable, at least. I couldn't find any issue with that error message. |
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| [07:38:26] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: that all sounds reasonable |
| [07:38:34] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: i was thinking of making beta releases way earlier tho |
| [07:38:44] | <anarcat> | feature freeze would be betas |
| [07:38:49] | <anarcat> | alphas is like right now |
| [07:39:01] | <anarcat> | i just need to whip the jenkins/reprepro stuff into place |
| [07:39:27] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: ok, but early january is only a month away |
| [07:39:40] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: and there's the holidays between now and then... |
| [07:40:11] | <ergonlogic> | so, I'm not sure when 'way earlier' should happen for betas/feature-freeze |
| [07:40:43] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: or did you mean starting with *alphas* earlier? |
| [07:42:10] | <ergonlogic> | fyi, I'm working on getting the aegir-dev blueprint in aegir-up working (for others) |
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| [07:42:23] | <anarcat> | i meant alphas |
| [07:42:26] | <anarcat> | cool |
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| [07:46:03] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: btw, i am still doing some tests on the SSL stuff, but it's looking pretty good |
| [07:46:16] | <anarcat> | it still lack cluster support, but the "move the IP allocation to the frontend" part is mostly done |
| [07:46:34] | <anarcat> | it's a pretty frustrating process |
| [07:48:31] | <ergonlogic> | I can imagine |
| [07:48:53] | <ergonlogic> | I need to take back up the major patch I was working on, and the half-dozen smaller ones |
| [07:49:05] | <ergonlogic> | I'll probably start with the latter |
| [07:49:42] | <ergonlogic> | taking care of my sick kid today though, so lots of interruptions... |
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| [07:50:37] | <anarcat> | 'salright |
| [07:53:19] | <ergonlogic> | woohoo! from README.txt: "Drush development is no longer being done on the branch 'master'." |
| [07:54:27] | <mvc> | ergonlogic: hope he's better soon! |
| [07:55:21] | <ergonlogic> | mvc: thanks :) |
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| [07:57:02] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: re. D8/php5.4/wheezy... that can be handled in a point release? |
| [07:57:26] | <anarcat> | uh? |
| [07:57:29] | <anarcat> | i think it should be in 2.x |
| [07:58:07] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: so then we'll need to mode to drush6 and support >=php5.3.5 |
| [07:58:41] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: which isn't in squeeze: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/php5 |
| [07:59:45] | <ergonlogic> | ok, but I guess you're saying that can be a point release under 2.x? |
| [08:00:53] | <anarcat> | to mode? |
| [08:01:03] | <anarcat> | i have a hard time following you here |
| [08:01:28] | <anarcat> | what i am saying is that we should *not* upgrade from 5.3 to 5.4 in a .x release, this seems like a major requirement change |
| [08:01:40] | <anarcat> | e.g. i don't want aegir 2.x to depend on drush 6 |
| [08:02:06] | <anarcat> | also, i want to run 2.x at koumbit soon, because we need to fix that freaking ssl |
| [08:02:11] | <anarcat> | /cluster |
| [08:02:22] | <ergonlogic> | s/mode/move |
| [08:02:23] | <anarcat> | and we *won't* be upgrading that cluster to 5.4 for a while still |
| [08:02:59] | <ergonlogic> | right, so we'll need to plan 3.x to coincide with d8 rc's |
| [08:03:05] | <ergonlogic> | ? |
| [08:03:13] | <anarcat> | so if 2.0 drags on for a while and it makes sense then to upgrade to 5.4, we'll do it, but if we release in january like i currently feel like doing, 2.x will be 5.3 and 5.4 will be 3.x |
| [08:03:28] | <hefring> | Git => disable the old hosting_queue runner when installing hosting_queued => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/6d8b472b2f0bdd58... |
| [08:03:28] | <hefring> | Git => queued: optionnally exit after tasks are ran => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/259b5d8444e9b9c8... |
| [08:03:53] | <anarcat> | i don't know if we need to sync 3.x with d8 |
| [08:04:28] | <anarcat> | but since d6 doesn't run well in 5.4 itself, it seems to me we will need at least a d7 rewrite to get 5.4 under our bellies |
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| [08:05:56] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: d8 might only require php 5.3.5 |
| [08:06:34] | <ergonlogic> | but still, I don't see it in squeeze-backports... |
| [08:08:21] | <anarcat> | what's 5.3.5 for? |
| [08:09:55] | <ergonlogic> | http://drupal.org/node/1801864 |
| [08:09:56] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1801864 => Drupal 8 notes => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [08:11:03] | <ergonlogic> | according to http://drupal.org/node/1751100: "in order to allow offsetGet() to return by reference" |
| [08:11:04] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1751100 => Bump minimum version of php required to 5.3.5 => Drupal core, base system, normal, closed (fixed), 55 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [08:11:26] | <ergonlogic> | helmo: ping |
| [08:11:44] | <ergonlogic> | gboudrias: ping |
| [08:12:53] | * anarcat nods |
| [08:15:13] | <gboudrias> | ergonlogic: Hi |
| [08:15:20] | <gboudrias> | What's up? |
| [08:16:35] | <ergonlogic> | gboudrias: I'll be pushing a couple fixes to the aegir-dev blueprint in aegir-up |
| [08:16:42] | <ergonlogic> | gboudrias: and I was hoping for some testing |
| [08:18:04] | <gboudrias> | ergonlogic: Neat |
| [08:18:27] | <gboudrias> | ergonlogic: Can't really do much right now, tomorrow maybe? |
| [08:25:50] | <ergonlogic> | gboudrias: k |
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| [09:45:59] | <Fabianx> | hi |
| [09:46:44] | <Fabianx> | I need someone who can tell me how variables have been passed from aegir front-end to install profile in aegir 0.4. (http://community.aegirproject.org/node/75 seems to be only for newer versions) |
| [09:47:59] | <Fabianx> | nvm, I found it :) |
| [09:48:11] | <Fabianx> | hook_drush_pre_hosting_task still works |
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