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| [03:48:45] | <ecorson> | If I have 3 platforms d7.17-dev, d7.17-test, d7.17-prod and I want to add a brand new module to dev would dI just crush dl it or would I add it to the platform's amkefile and build a new version of the platform then migrate my sites to it? |
| [03:48:50] | <ecorson> | or is there another better way? |
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| [04:10:47] | <ecorson> | anyone have workflow suggestions for adding new modules to dev platforms? |
| [04:10:53] | <ecorson> | or a link to a relevant article? |
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| [04:16:38] | <ecorson> | What strategies do people use to add new modules to dev platforms? |
| [04:18:41] | <mvc> | ecorson: at koumbit we build new test & prod platforms every 2 weeks (to catch security updates) and migrate all our sites to those |
| [04:19:12] | <ecorson> | ok so you would update the makefile and create a new platform then migrate to it? |
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| [04:20:52] | <mvc> | yes, usually by the time we've finished testing a new module in dev it's ready in the staging platform |
| [04:21:12] | <mvc> | or if not we would drush dl to the current staging platform while waiting |
| [04:21:30] | <mvc> | fwiw our makefiles & scripts which manage all this are public: http://drupal.org/project/kplatforms |
| [04:21:41] | <ecorson> | Nice that is helpful…do you use the same shared files directory for each stage or do you have different files for dev and test? |
| [04:21:49] | <ecorson> | nice! |
| [04:22:10] | <mvc> | we usually rsync the files/ dir around between dev, test, & prod |
| [04:22:37] | <mvc> | if it's big i'd use a symlink from test to prod |
| [04:22:54] | <mvc> | (although then you have to be more careful) |
| [04:25:07] | <ecorson> | we are using load balancers and so the files are on a NAS |
| [04:25:17] | <ecorson> | fairly tedious |
| [04:26:23] | <ecorson> | do you use subdomains to differentiate between stages? i.e. dev.site.aegir.com test.site.saegir.com site.aegir.com |
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| [04:56:00] | <nulp> | in our set up, our dev and test machines have wildcard DNS setup, so our dev site is example.dev-server.com and the test site is example.test-server.com with the prod site being example.com |
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| [05:45:26] | <frodopwns__> | nulp: thanks for the response on that |
| [05:45:54] | <frodopwns__> | at my organization the DNS and server admins are not the same group so we have had to make compromises |
| [05:46:44] | <frodopwns__> | politics! |
| [05:47:14] | <frodopwns__> | so dev and test are something like dev.sites.com/sitename and test.sites.com/sitename |
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| [05:47:45] | <frodopwns__> | maybe your way is better |
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| [05:54:52] | <nulp> | that is how we used to do things, but we found migrating sites was less complicated if we used domains and using wildcard domains means less tickets to the DNS/networking group |
| [05:56:02] | <frodopwns__> | so I just messaged one of my server guys asking why we can't use a wildcard and he said "there is no wildcard in DNS" |
| [05:56:19] | <frodopwns__> | is the wildcard somethign in newer versions of bind or do we have a lack of understanding? |
| [05:56:32] | <frodopwns__> | bind/DNS standards |
| [05:56:35] | <frodopwns__> | whatev |
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| [06:03:55] | <nulp> | It looks to be a standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcard_DNS_record |
| [06:04:13] | <nulp> | however my DNS knowledge is limited |
| [06:07:57] | <frodopwns__> | Yeah I found that as well...I just don't understand why people wouldnt know that it exists |
| [06:08:24] | <frodopwns__> | or suggest it as an option when we come to them for DNS solutions |
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| [06:20:14] | <nulp> | it has come in very handy. |
| [06:22:02] | <frodopwns__> | what would you say the major benefits of changing to that domain sheme are?\ |
| [06:22:08] | <frodopwns__> | scheme |
| [06:24:58] | <nulp> | uplaoded images and files. there location in nodes (Drupal 6 here) is stored as relative to the domain |
| [06:25:22] | <nulp> | if we go from subdirectory to domain, we have to remember to update all those links |
| [06:25:56] | <nulp> | oh crap I can't believe I used the wrong there/thier |
| [06:31:48] | <nulp> | it's also nice not having to create the symbolic link in drupal root (not sure if you have to do this with aegir as we switch to the wildcard dns when we switched to aegir) http://drupal.org/documentation/install/multi-site#symlink |
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| [06:48:40] | <mvc> | ecorson: re: dns: we do something similar to nulp |
| [06:48:49] | <frodopwns__> | nulp: yes so far I just have aegir in test servers so my team can prove its usefulness to the higer ups..so I'm making lots of symlinks |
| [06:49:19] | <frodopwns__> | also we use pathologic to handle the linking to images and whatnot |
| [06:49:42] | <mvc> | aegir manages renaming sites and changing paths in the files table in drupal6 but it's not perfect (eg absolute links in content) |
| [06:50:25] | <frodopwns__> | mvc: thanks, I'm guessing our hostmaster has stonewalled on this functionality for some reason |
| [07:04:18] | <frodopwns__> | I'm a little steamed that I have gone so far down a path simply because of an obstinate DNS admin |
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| [07:20:47] | <mvc> | frodopwns__: fwiw yours is a tale we hear often in this channel :/ |
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| [07:48:13] | <frodopwns> | mvc: I appreciate all the help you and nulp have given me...I have hope that we can get aegir approved ehre then there will be another University for the list on the community site ;-) |
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| [07:49:38] | <frodopwns> | here* |
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| [08:01:00] | <nulp> | oh what University, if you don't mind sharing. |
| [08:01:50] | <nulp> | I'm at University of Oregon, we've got a number of departments in Aegir with a push for central IS to provide it as a service |
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| [08:07:04] | <mvc> | one of the aegir instances koumbit maintains is used by a joint program of the Université du Québec à Montréal and Concordia University (also in Montreal) |
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| [08:17:04] | <CrawfordComeaux> | if I've got octopus instance o1.sub.domain.com and I'd like to add a new theme for aegir to use, where do I go in the file system for that? |
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| [08:56:28] | <frodopwns> | CrawfordComeaux: check "/data/disk/o1" |
| [08:57:28] | <frodopwns> | nulp: I am at the University of Iowa |
| [09:02:12] | <frodopwns> | Given the limitations I was planning on provisioning via python fabric and drush but after playing with Aegir I am pretty convinced I am just reinventing the wheel |
| [09:02:45] | <frodopwns> | I was* just reinventing |
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| [09:31:50] | <CrawfordComeaux> | frodopwns: I know, but where in there should the theme go? there are several options |
| [09:33:35] | <CrawfordComeaux> | nevermind...seems I've found it |
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