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[15:29:09]<AlfTheCat>Hey everyone, Iḿ running into an issue on both my existing Debian 5 Aegir (1.6) but also on my newly deployed Debian 6 Aegir 1.9. Aegir user cannot restart Apache. (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
[15:29:22]<AlfTheCat>anyone have a suggestion?
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[16:52:09]<AlfTheCat>I tried adding to sudoers: Defaults:aegir !requiretty
[16:52:09]<AlfTheCat>aegir ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/apache2ctl but no result
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[19:31:11]<AlfTheCat>Hey everyone, Iḿ running into an issue on both my existing Debian 5 Aegir (1.6) but also on my newly deployed Debian 6 Aegir 1.9. Aegir user cannot restart Apache. (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
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[20:17:38]<AlfTheCat1>Hey everyone, Iḿ running into an issue on both my existing Debian 5 Aegir (1.6) but also on my newly deployed Debian 6 Aegir 1.9. Aegir user cannot restart Apache. (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
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[23:03:02]<elfenixtorres>hey
[23:03:02]<hefring>privet
[23:03:03]<elfenixtorres>I have a strange issue here
[23:03:42]<elfenixtorres>after cloning a site on a development aegir, to a generic name "sitename.dev.domain.com" to "sitename" I lose all my custom theme and module information in the DB
[23:03:59]<elfenixtorres>the custom theme does not show up anymore
[23:04:03]<elfenixtorres>nor do the custom modules
[23:08:53]<elfenixtorres>one important thing to mention, these custom modules and themes are in the site/sitename/ folder, not the sites/all/ folder
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[00:15:07]<elfenixtorres>right, I had to move my custom modules and themes from my sites/sitename dir to the sites/all dir
[00:15:13]<elfenixtorres>is there any other way?
[00:15:32]<elfenixtorres>enabling the site through sites.php in the sites dir doesn't do anything
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[04:32:55]<ecorson>Hey guys, for some reason after I clone, then migrate a site I am having to use crush to clear the cache even after verifying the site
[04:33:00]<ecorson>any idea what might cause this?
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[04:35:54]<ecorson>After I migrate a site I am getting a white screen of death but a simple crush @site cc all seems to fix it…i don't understand why the site verify task isn't fixing the problem
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[06:07:26]<ecorson>Any reason why I would have to crush cc all after migrating a site to a new platform AND verifying?
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[06:25:26]<anarcat>verify does a cache clear
[06:25:26]<hefring>anarcat: 3 days 9 hours ago <omega8cc> tell anarcat: maybe we should switch to monthly post-paid from pre-paid to avoid accumulating that pressure and make things more flexible (including the budget)
[06:25:26]<hefring>anarcat: 3 days 8 hours ago <omega8cc> tell anarcat: anyway, paypal payment just sent to koumbit
[06:26:53]<ecorson>anarcat: yes that is why this issue doesnt make sense
[06:27:22]<ecorson>I clone the site, then migrate it to the new platform, i then verify and it shows me a WSOD then i have to manually clear cache via crush to get the site to com eup
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[06:28:52]<omega8cc>ecorson: it depends on what the real problem is - you could enable all errors on screen to see what is there behind that wsod
[06:29:28]<ecorson>I don't understand why there is a difference between drush's cc and verify's bu tlet me see if I can get an error to show up
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[06:32:26]<omega8cc>ecorson: does it affect d7 or d6 site?
[06:32:47]<ecorson>d7, i am remigrating it right now
[06:32:53]<omega8cc>k
[06:34:13]<omega8cc>then Aegir uses just drupal_flush_all_caches(), so exactly the same as 'cc all' in drush
[06:36:01]<ecorson>not seeing anything in the error log except a missing favicon
[06:36:23]<omega8cc>well, I was wrong, Aegir does something different
[06:36:30]<omega8cc>see: http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob/refs/heads/6.x-1.x:/pla...
[06:36:43]<omega8cc>it is not the same as drupal_flush_all_caches()
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[06:38:46]<omega8cc>also note that drupal does some things in a different order: http://api.drupal.org/api/drupal/includes%21common.inc/function/drupal_f...
[06:39:24]<omega8cc>that is why I use drupal_flush_all_caches() instead there, so it does the same as "drush cc all"
[06:39:47]<omega8cc>I forgot to open an issue about it, well
[06:40:00]<ecorson>so the Barracuda version of aegis clear the cache correctly?
[06:40:05]<ecorson>aegir*
[06:40:18]<anarchat>that would be a d7 specific fix?
[06:40:34]<anarchat>omega8cc: an issue would be welcome indeed
[06:40:52]<omega8cc>not sure if that is "correct" but at least it uses the same code and order as drush cc all
[06:42:06]<omega8cc>just compare: http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/omega8cc/1074910.git/blob/HEAD:/platform/d... I even added full code there, for reference
[06:42:56]<omega8cc>anarchat: no, the same issue is with all other versions - I mean, we don't run "drush cc all" there
[06:43:11]<ecorson>adding the reporting line to the index.php doesnt seem to make my WSOD go away :-(
[06:43:45]<omega8cc>so it doesn't display any errors?
[06:44:16]<omega8cc>well, then you know that it is just because of cache, so db level and nothing on the php level
[06:44:27]<omega8cc>hence nothing to display
[06:46:34]<ecorson>yeah it throws a bit of a wrench in my attempts to demo the migration process
[06:46:46]<anarchat>i wonder why the simplest cache clear we use isn't enough
[06:46:48]<ecorson>probably switch over to barracuda and try again
[06:46:52]<anarchat>ecorson: any idea what's failing?
[06:47:24]<ecorson>I know the migration from our non-aegir platform into aegis wasn't as pretty as it could have been
[06:47:42]<ecorson>as in all the cache tables were left full
[06:47:56]<ecorson>and not all of the modules were in sites/all
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[06:48:44]<ecorson>if I clone the site to the same platform it work shut once I go to the prod platform it goes white..still trying to find more info
[06:48:44]<anarchat>ecorson: have you tried just adding drupal_flush_all_caches() on top of clear_7.inc?
[06:48:48]<anarchat>see if it fixes the problem?
[06:48:54]<ecorson>k
[06:49:05]<ecorson>in /var/aegir/ somewhere?
[06:49:08]<omega8cc>anarchat: we use only parts of full cache clear and in the wrong order, it seems
[06:49:38]<anarchat>omega8cc: well, that code was written by adrian, so i assume he knew what he was doing ;)
[06:49:48]<anarchat>maybe we don't need a full cache clear on upgrades... i don't know
[06:50:18]<anarchat>ecorson: yeah, where you installed provision, that would probably be /var/aegir/.drush/provision/platform/drupal/clear_7.inc unless you installed through the debian packages, in which case it's /usr/share/drush/commands/provision/...
[06:50:26]<ecorson>got it
[06:50:27]<ecorson>thanks
[06:52:14]<omega8cc>anarchat: yeah, maybe, but just compare it between d5, d6, d7 and you will see that there is mostly copy+paste, while drupal_flush_all_caches() does it a different way and order (but in d6 and d7 only)
[06:52:58]<omega8cc>anyway, I will open an issue about it
[06:53:18]<ecorson>i added the flush all caches line to the clear_7.inc an drill test her in a moment
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[06:54:44]<ecorson>and will test here in a moment *
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[06:58:18]<anarchat>omega8cc: yeah, maybe that dates back to d5 :/
[06:58:32]<anarchat>it would make sense to use the drupal regular api i guess
[06:58:36]<anarchat>ecorson: thanks
[06:58:39]<ecorson>I was reading through instruction on how to contribute last weekend ad then i came across the tickets…I don't think I'm ready to jump in just yet :-)
[06:59:06]<omega8cc>anarchat: well, I already have that issue, just posted elsewhere, doh
[06:59:12]<anarchat>hehe
[06:59:21]<anarchat>ecorson: why not?
[06:59:35]<ecorson>I don't have a handle for the context, I think I need to read the code
[07:00:05]<omega8cc>http://drupal.org/node/1696232
[07:00:06]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1696232 => Use drupal_flush_all_caches() in clear_(6,7,8).inc instead of outdated and no longer complete d5 functions => Provision, Code, normal, needs review, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[07:00:27]<anarchat>ecorson: yeah, the context stuff is hard - but you can ignore it quite often :)
[07:01:23]<anarchat>ergonlogic: please report back in the above issue your test results
[07:01:24]<anarchat>er
[07:01:26]<anarchat>ecorson: ^^
[07:01:28]<anarchat>ergonlogic: sry
[07:01:50]<ecorson>anarchat: will do, might hav ego slip out to a meeting bu tI will let ya know
[07:01:57]<ecorson>have to*
[07:02:16]<ergonlogic>anarchat: :p
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[07:03:26]<anarcat>ergonlogic: sure, no rush
[07:03:50]<ergonlogic>anarcat: wtf?
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[07:04:02]<anarcat>bloody hell
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[07:04:05]<anarcat>ecorson: sure, no rush
[07:04:08]<ergonlogic>too quick at the kybd there
[07:04:08]<anarcat>ergonlogic: sorry again!
[07:04:14]<ergonlogic>:)
[07:04:17]<anarcat>ergonlogic: hi! :)
[07:04:22]<ergonlogic>anarcat: hi
[07:04:29]<anarcat>ergonlogic: did you see the AWESOME SNOW?
[07:04:39]<anarcat>i am totally trippin
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[07:04:56]<ergonlogic>anarcat: yep, spent some good quality time getting to know it (aka shovelling)
[07:05:03]<ecorson>anarchat: looks like it worked
[07:05:08]<ecorson>will duplicate the test and let you know
[07:05:29]* ergonlogic is trying to wrap his head around Debian packaging of Ruby gems...
[07:05:37]<anarcat>hehe
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[07:05:52]<anarcat>ergonlogic: that (ruby gem debian packaging) is probably closer to hell than shovelling that driveway, btw
[07:06:17]<omega8cc>ecorson: great, please add some details there, so we will have a bit more than my cryptic "some unexpected issues with Clone and Migrate tasks" ;)
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[07:06:19]<ergonlogic>anarcat: yeah... I'm discovering some of that...
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[07:06:51]<ergonlogic>apparently there's a new Ruby packaging process for Wheezy, but documentation is a bit scarce
[07:06:58]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i'd rather shovel than package ruby gems, in other words
[07:07:07]<omega8cc>lol
[07:07:17]<ergonlogic>anarcat: well, you're always welcome to come by and help :P
[07:07:19]<anarcat>ergonlogic: don't hesitate to ask for help directly with the ruby maintainers, they probably know
[07:07:23]<anarcat>hehe
[07:07:24]<anarcat>ergonlogic: you're too far! :)
[07:08:01]<ergonlogic>anarcat: yeah, so far, I've just been reading up and I've updated the ITP with my intention to work on it
[07:08:47]<ergonlogic>apparently gem2deb takes care of most of it though...
[07:10:28]<anarcat>yay
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[07:40:42]<realityloop>seen omega8cc
[07:40:42]<hefring>omega8cc was last seen in #aegir 33 min 35 sec ago saying 'lol'.
[07:40:42]<hefring>realityloop: 1 day 6 hours ago <ergonlogic> tell realityloop pong
[07:41:25]<realityloop>hefring: tell omega8cc can you please provide a response on this? http://drupal.org/node/1865500
[07:41:25]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1865500 => Add clicktale to allowed php files, and allow 'ClickTale bot' user agent to access server => Barracuda, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[07:41:25]<hefring>realityloop: I'll pass that on when omega8cc is around.
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[07:52:34]<omega8cc>heh
[07:52:34]<hefring>omega8cc: 11 min 9 sec ago <realityloop> tell omega8cc can you please provide a response on this? http://drupal.org/node/1865500
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[08:03:15]<ecorson>omega8cc: you want me to comment on this one? http://drupal.org/node/1696232
[08:03:16]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1696232 => Use drupal_flush_all_caches() in clear_(6,7,8).inc instead of outdated and no longer complete d5 functions => Provision, Code, major, needs work, 5 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[08:08:00]<theMusician>ecorson: Good find, I never thought it was an issue with Aegir, just Drupal. Not having to use drush cc all will be great.
[08:10:11]<ecorson>theMusician: I didn't really catch it just brought it to omega and anrchat's attention
[08:10:33]<ecorson>without them i would have thought it was a local issue
[08:13:30]<omega8cc>ecorson: yes
[08:13:39]<ecorson>k I'm on it
[08:13:44]<omega8cc>thanks
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[08:19:04]<anarcat>omega8cc: ping
[08:19:48]<ecorson>alright i updated the description a little bit
[08:19:54]<anarcat>thanks
[08:23:41]<ecorson>i'd be happy to amend it again if it doesnt meet the standards fro the project
[08:23:54]<omega8cc>anarcat: pong
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[08:34:36]<omega8cc>that new core "maybe" security announcements are a bit weird, no?
[08:34:55]<omega8cc>I mean http://groups.drupal.org/node/273583
[08:34:55]<hefring>http://groups.drupal.org/node/273583 => Drupal core security release window on Wednesday, December 19 => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[08:35:13]<omega8cc>if there is a "window" established, then just release when you have something to release, or shut up ;)
[08:40:11]<ecorson>consider this use case…our University has several hundred sites located at www.uiowa.edu/~sitename …we want to move all of these sites to Drupal an dI am wondering using this URL schema if aegir would bring much to the table
[08:40:53]<ecorson>can aegir even handle a multisite where all of the sites are located at subdirectory-like URLs?
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[08:49:47]<omega8cc>ecorson: check http://drupal.org/node/705026 and https://github.com/mig5/aegir_subfolders
[08:49:48]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/705026 => Allow creation of mysite.com/site1 and mysite.com/site2 type of sites => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, major, needs work, 39 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[08:50:16]<ecorson>nice, thanks man
[08:50:18]<omega8cc>I plan to complete its Nginx version soon
[08:50:58]<ecorson>Thats coo, i am running Nginx on my personal Drupal server but I don't know how the University would take to it
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