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[12:34:55]<skwashd>mig5: ping
[12:36:49]<skwashd>anarcat / mig5I have a polished D7 port of eldir and a new subtheme that isn't aegir branded
[12:37:08]<skwashd>do you want it as a patch against eldir?
[12:37:25]<skwashd>or should the subtheme be separate?
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[12:51:36]<skwashd>code is at https://drupal.org/sandbox/skwashd/1907004
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[13:02:57]<skwashd>and now an issue https://drupal.org/node/1907010
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[15:14:17]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Avoid caching /civicrm* and protect it from bots. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/27bf8f7718e67ed74...
[15:14:17]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Avoid breaking WordPress import when WP-specific URI is used. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/eea3858ddc17f60b8...
[15:14:17]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Do not block spiders on URIs with event/calendar regex match. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/e21d9a83631edb873...
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[15:14:34]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Add Wysiwyg Fields support. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/e45ffb92ce253cd4d...
[15:14:34]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Make json compatible with boost caching but dynamic for POST requests. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/1fde026013262eca7...
[15:14:34]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Do not use device-specific, never working paths for Boost cache. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/708774eb0ffdc7df8...
[15:14:50]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Remove duplicate location - already protected in the server template. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/c777f2024cb6b5cb9...
[15:14:50]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Improve performance for dynamic requests and reduce logging 404 errors. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/d2683f26cdf548b00...
[15:14:50]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Improve no-cache exceptions for known AJAX and webform requests. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/d5b0e4ddc8ac73a02...
[15:15:06]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Add support for http://drupal.org/project/js module. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/bd9c275b0ac55e85c...
[15:15:06]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Better protection for private URLs from bots/spiders. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/0c7347993204454f8...
[15:15:06]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Improve locations for static files. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/2efb9990552d539b5...
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[15:15:28]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Better protection for private URLs from bots/spiders (2) => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/6e56020f4ce311e69...
[15:15:28]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Move some dynamic directives up in the location. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/f12e1e1fad8140a1f...
[15:15:28]<hefring>Git => Nginx: Make upload progress configuration compatible with latest release of Nginx... => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/56c0ad8e393174e26...
[15:15:43]<hefring>Git => Issue #1906900 by fall_0ut - Nginx microcaching not disabled on localized/prefixed... => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/707b589dbef1d219d...
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[15:34:20]<hefring>Git => Nginx Security: BEAST attack protection and fix for PCI compliance. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/4bc891dcff7b4b492...
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[10:26:53]<cweagans>Hello! I've got a couple of architecture questions, if anyone is around.
[10:27:27]<EclipseGc>cweagans: they usually aren't
[10:27:35]<EclipseGc>cweagans: but I can try… old rusty braincells though
[10:27:48]<cweagans>I was looking at building a Drupal application to help with managing our internal site building workflow, and I was wondering if using provision without hostmaster is recommended (or even possible)
[10:28:26]<EclipseGc>cweagans: http://mig5.net/content/manage-your-aegir-system-command-line.html
[10:28:39]<EclipseGc>cweagans: that will likely answer a lot of questions
[10:28:49]<EclipseGc>cweagans: that you've not even thought of yet :-)
[10:29:09]<EclipseGc>cweagans: the short answer is "yes it is doable and supported"
[10:29:14]<cweagans>excellent
[10:29:18]<cweagans>that's awesome, thanks man!
[10:29:28]<EclipseGc>cweagans: seriously, read mig5's article
[10:29:33]<cweagans>definitely reading it
[10:29:40]<EclipseGc>cweagans: probably save you days at least
[10:29:49]<EclipseGc>cweagans: what are you building?
[10:30:02]<cweagans>EclipseGc: sort of a combination of Github and Pantheon
[10:30:07]<EclipseGc>ahh ok
[10:30:21]<cweagans>Basically, Pantheon with pm tools attached
[10:30:21]<cweagans>:)
[10:30:22]<EclipseGc>cweagans: have you played with gitlab?
[10:30:26]<cweagans>yeah
[10:30:28]<cweagans>I don't like it
[10:30:32]<cweagans>and the maintainer is kind of a dick
[10:30:32]<EclipseGc>really?
[10:30:39]<EclipseGc>well, yeah but ruby
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[10:30:46]<EclipseGc>not a surprise right?
[10:30:47]<EclipseGc>:-)
[10:30:47]<cweagans>well, yeah, there's that too
[10:30:52]<cweagans>:)
[10:31:10]<cweagans>there's a chance of open sourcing this, so could be kind of a cool alternative to vanilla aegir :)
[10:32:20]<tedbow>Hi, I am looking to test aegir on virtualbox. anybody have advice on what linux distro I should use. I tried ubuntu 12.04 but ran into install problems.
[10:34:40]<cweagans>tedbow: what sort of install problems? Should be basically apt-get install aegir
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[10:35:02]<cweagans>tedbow: you could also try debian 6 (http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/debian)
[10:36:18]<tedbow>cweagans: restarting virtual box machine to look at errors. I think I needed to run mysql_secure_install before installing aegir
[10:36:32]<tedbow>from some forums I saw
[10:36:35]<cweagans>ah, yeah, that'd probably be a good idea
[10:37:06]<tedbow>cweagans: but tried to run that and still didn't install maybe need to fully uninstall
[10:37:36]<tedbow>cweagans: I don't really want to install it on my mac os because don't plan to use it on my localhost.
[10:37:50]<cweagans>Right, and a mac os install is a big nasty process anyways
[10:38:18]<cweagans>You might also try Digital Ocean. Re-imaging a box there is super quick and it's like $5/mo for a good testing box.
[10:39:23]<EclipseGc>tedbow: ubuntu/debian is definitely the distro you want to build aegis on
[10:39:25]<EclipseGc>aegir*
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[10:39:37]<EclipseGc>tedbow: they are by far the most heavily tested and supported
[10:40:59]<tedbow>EclipseGc: ok thanks I am planning to install it in a VirtualBox to test/develop scripts. then put it on debian server later
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[10:41:18]* EclipseGc nods
[10:41:54]<EclipseGc>cweagans: I've been wondering about the viability of moving aegir to D8
[10:42:13]<EclipseGc>cweagans: since it looks like we're not getting a 7.x release
[10:42:17]<cweagans>right
[10:42:21]<cweagans>which kinda blows
[10:42:26]* EclipseGc shrugs
[10:42:28]<cweagans>but a d8 release would be pretty slick
[10:42:49]<EclipseGc>cweagans: a lot of what aegir deals with are just config/content entities
[10:43:18]<cweagans>Yep! And since views is in core, it should be pretty easy to do just about everything with a minimal amount of custom code
[10:43:27]<EclipseGc>cweagans: having processes that can rebuild your domains/etc on a new server from config staging would be epic
[10:44:50]<cweagans>Totally. There's an issue open somewhere in the core queue about doing that semi-manually with install profiles, which doesn't completely work yet
[10:45:11]<cweagans>EclipseGc: basically, create profiles/profilename/config and dump your site config in there, then distribute it with your install profile
[10:45:20]<cweagans>If that can be automated with Aegir, though
[10:45:21]<EclipseGc>cweagans: yeah… install profiles… there's a thing I wish I had the time to turn into a plugin type
[10:46:05]<EclipseGc>cweagans: well, I think the config from profile largely works already
[10:46:09]<cweagans>idk if that makes much sense as a plugin, though - they can implement profile-specific hooks, and I know that a lot of people would be upset about losing that functionality (especially since adrian spent so much time fixing them)
[10:46:09]<EclipseGc>cweagans: standard does a ton of that
[10:46:15]<EclipseGc>cweagans: it's how all default blocks are placed
[10:46:27]<cweagans>EclipseGc: yeah, but the workflow that I described definitely doesn't.
[10:46:38]<EclipseGc>cweagans: that may be
[10:46:44]<cweagans>copy sites/default/config/* to profiles/profilename/config/* and install from profilename is broken.
[10:47:03]<EclipseGc>cweagans: I tried to take one of sun's config exports so I could test against a problem he had and basic staging was fubard at the time too
[10:48:28]<EclipseGc>cweagans: by basic is mean "throw away my configuration and reset completely to this dump of config files"
[10:48:34]<EclipseGc>which is admittedly, not basic
[10:48:37]<cweagans>ah, yeah
[10:49:04]<EclipseGc>cweagans: oh man, I'm so close to having contextual plugins into core
[10:49:21]<EclipseGc>cweagans: and I'm like… neck deep in condition plugins right now
[10:49:48]<cweagans>I wish I had more time to spend on core. I'd love to help you with that.
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[10:52:42]<EclipseGc>cweagans: well, you only have to dedicate between now and the 18
[10:52:48]<EclipseGc>cweagans: after that it'll be too late
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[10:53:49]<cweagans>sadly, that's about the time period that I'm completely slammed :( exams, client projects, work, and dealing with a site launch
[10:54:06]* EclipseGc nods
[10:54:10]<EclipseGc>cweagans: I totally hear that dude
[10:54:23]<EclipseGc>cweagans: everyone keeps trying to assign me client work
[10:54:29]<cweagans>lol
[10:54:37]<EclipseGc>cweagans: I keep nicely telling them I have 2 weeks to prevent a LOT of problem in the D8 cycle
[10:55:11]<cweagans>I would put money on niceness decreasing over time until feb 18 =P
[10:57:22]<EclipseGc>cweagans: heh, well I'm hoping if I'm nice and firm now, it will prevent the need to have the conversation again
[10:57:32]<EclipseGc>2 weeks isn't a lot of time to remember "leave Kris alone"
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[10:58:25]<cweagans>I can barely get away with a day of "leave Cameron alone"
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