IRC logs for #aegir, 2013-02-05 (GMT)

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[11:00:56]<EclipseGc>cweagans: yeah, Commerce Guys has been a pretty epic place to work
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[11:01:20]<EclipseGc>cweagans: I have very very little to complain about
[11:01:41]<cweagans>I believe it! I applied there just after DC Denver, but they weren't interested. Ended up working out pretty well, though
[11:02:23]<EclipseGc>cweagans: really? I didn't know that
[11:02:35]<EclipseGc>cweagans: they're almost always looking, but a lot of times they want people to move to Michigan
[11:02:42]<EclipseGc>cweagans: where do you work? I don't actually know
[11:03:20]<cweagans>Yeah, they wanted me to relocate. I work at Advomatic now
[11:04:39]<EclipseGc>cweagans: ahh ok
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[11:06:55]<cweagans>Also, http://drupal.org/project/drushd? wat.
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[11:14:34]<EclipseGc>cweagans: interesting
[11:14:39]<EclipseGc>cweagans: scary, but interesting
[11:15:04]<EclipseGc>cweagans: I'm pretty sure it's not on the same level as [] + {} = {}
[11:15:21]<EclipseGc>or {} + {} = NaN
[11:15:22]<cweagans>yeah, definitely scary. I was looking for something to sit and watch a queue and take action every time there's something in the queue
[11:15:25]<cweagans>0_0
[11:15:57]<EclipseGc>cweagans: try http://drupal.org/project/beanstalkd
[11:17:00]<EclipseGc>cweagans: I've not used it, but I think that's closer to what you want
[11:17:29]<cweagans>Oh yeah! That's what we use on d.o for the git processing queue.
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[17:42:52]<cat3>hi folks!
[17:43:01]<cat3>I'm looking for a little help please
[17:43:28]<Deciphered>ask?
[17:43:28]<hefring>don't ask to ask just ask
[17:43:45]<cat3>I'm a new aegir user. i've just upgraded some 6.x modules, and my site has gone for a walk (500)
[17:44:10]<cat3>my question is hopefully simple - how can i either print a useful error msg, either to log or to screen?
[17:44:19]<Deciphered>cat3: Did you upgrade modules in Aegir, or on a site hosted by Aegir?
[17:44:24]<cat3>the php-fpm and nginx logs show nothing helpful
[17:44:29]<cat3>Deciphered: a site hosted by Aegir
[17:44:47]<Deciphered>Sure. Xdebug helps the error message greatly
[17:45:29]<Deciphered>In the case you don't have Xdebug installed with your PHP FPM, then you can also try running a random drush command, often that will give you an indicator of the issue
[17:46:02]<Deciphered>Is your Aegir installed locally on a OS X machine?
[17:46:36]<cat3>Drush was not able to start (bootstrap) the Drupal database.
[17:46:50]<cat3>nope - remotely and on ubuntu
[17:47:10]<cat3>i'm not a new sysadmin - but I am new to both nginx and php-fpm
[17:47:10]<Deciphered>cat3: Run it from inside the sites directory, ie., the directory that has settings.php for the site in question
[17:47:39]<cat3>aha! a useful error msg. thanks!
[17:47:53]<Deciphered>np
[17:48:09]<Deciphered>But try to get Xdebug installed, it will throw useful error messages to the browser
[17:51:37]<cat3>I will - thanks Deciphered, really appreciate your help!
[17:51:49]<Deciphered>np, best of luck.
[17:52:50]<cat3>if anyone was curious, updating 'date' required a jquery_ui update
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[22:27:17]<cuddle`>hello, I have a perhaps complicated question. I'm wondering how I could be able to achieve to also init a new git repository with every new platform or site instance creation
[22:27:30]<cuddle`>or is this already possible within aegis?
[22:27:33]<cuddle`>r*
[22:28:17]<cuddle`>automatically versioning every hosted site created by Aegir
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[00:31:22]<mvc>cuddle`: we have a git repo of drush makefiles used to create platforms (so nothing in the platform itself to version), and we manage sites by having a git repo at the level of a site
[00:31:57]<mvc>we make the git repos manually because we don't use them for all projects, but no reason you couldn't write a module which implements an aegir hook to do what you describe
[00:32:55]<mvc>(at the level of a site == site/foo.com/.git, with files/, private/, settings.php, & drushrc.php ignored)
[00:33:08]<cuddle`>mvc: thanks for the response, I'm quite new to developing for Drupal, if I understand correctly, you would suggest creating a drupal module that initiliases the git repo?
[00:33:56]<mvc>yep. all this stuff is extensible, you just need to write the code that extends it
[00:34:01]<cuddle`>I'll try and take this path, thank you for the information
[00:34:07]<cuddle`>:)
[00:34:23]<mvc>good luck! if you come up with a clean solution, you can share it as a contrib module for aegir on drupal.org
[00:34:36]<mvc>then other people can help you develop it
[00:34:51]<mvc>it's an interesting idea
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[00:41:12]<cuddle`>sounds like a good project, but I'm afraid I'm not as knowledgable for a clean solution, I'll keep that in mind though, perhaps if I get more confident in writing modules
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[01:34:31]<mvc>drupal.org lets you upload 'sandbox' modules, meaning just random code that you don't promise will work but might be useful as an example for someone
[01:34:50]<mvc>then if/when a project matures it can become a full-fledged project
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[02:26:06]<wesj>Is there a way to remove an SSL cert that I'm no longer using, so that it doesn't appear as an option in the front end? I've removed the cert directory from /var/aegir/config/ssl.d and verified the server, but it still shows up.
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[02:33:32]<omega8cc>cuddle`: sounds like you may be interested in http://drupal.org/project/devshop - just note that it uses Pantheon/Acquia-like monolithic approach, so the repo includes entire platform (not repo per sites/foo)
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[02:36:02]<omega8cc>also skwashd works on something interesting: http://drupal.org/project/wf
[02:36:58]<omega8cc>mvc: ^^
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[02:40:26]<wesj>Hmm ... I see a hosting_ssl_cert table -- should I manually remove the appropriate entry there?
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[02:51:49]<cuddle`>thank you omega8cc
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[03:09:16]<hefring>community => How to delete an unused SSL certificate? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/how-delete-unused-ssl-certificate
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[04:32:10]<Lloyd_>Attempting to install aegir from the repository on Ubuntu natty and I keep being prompted for aegir password
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[04:56:10]<cweagans>Don't bother man. Upgrade to 12.04 or just use straight debian 6.
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[08:06:39]<lsolesen1>omega8cc: When a new Drupal release is out - is it better to quickly create a new platform for it, or should one just wait for the next barracuda release?
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