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| [14:49:18] | <GRO> | hi all, any one know if there's been any updates to the best practice for running drush on Aegir sites as a regular user - there are some listed here but I'm not sure how current they are - http://community.aegirproject.org/node/494 |
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| [23:48:50] | <darthsteven> | Hello! |
| [23:48:50] | <hefring> | hola |
| [23:52:18] | <jl_images> | Hello |
| [23:52:18] | <hefring> | what's up |
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| [00:19:20] | <ergonlogic> | hefring tell GRO you may want to check out http://drupal.org/project/provisionacl |
| [00:19:20] | <hefring> | ergonlogic: I'll pass that on when GRO is around. |
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| [00:46:10] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: hi! |
| [00:49:12] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: good morning |
| [00:49:22] | <ergonlogic> | afternoon, I guess, for you :) |
| [00:49:38] | <darthsteven> | indeed :) |
| [00:49:40] | <darthsteven> | how are you? |
| [00:49:48] | <ergonlogic> | good, you? |
| [00:50:05] | <ergonlogic> | say, the ajax bit on the task log doesn't appear to be working |
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| [00:50:37] | <darthsteven> | I'm good |
| [00:50:40] | <darthsteven> | oh lame |
| [00:50:43] | <darthsteven> | hmmm |
| [00:51:00] | <darthsteven> | you may need to flush all caches after pulling? |
| [00:51:19] | <ergonlogic> | ah ok |
| [00:52:02] | <ergonlogic> | yep, that did it |
| [00:52:04] | <ergonlogic> | sweet! |
| [00:52:26] | <darthsteven> | amazing :) |
| [00:52:35] | <ergonlogic> | that is really, really cool |
| [00:52:44] | <darthsteven> | and this is why I like D7 :) |
| [00:53:36] | <ergonlogic> | I have to agree |
| [00:53:38] | <darthsteven> | still needs some work, of course |
| [00:53:48] | <ergonlogic> | always will, I guess |
| [00:54:00] | <ergonlogic> | the nature of open source, no? |
| [00:54:04] | <darthsteven> | Aegir seems to be able to install sites now too |
| [00:54:08] | <ergonlogic> | yep |
| [00:54:13] | <darthsteven> | which was a nice surprise |
| [00:54:20] | <ergonlogic> | since the services work now |
| [00:54:27] | <ergonlogic> | so, we can build platforms |
| [00:55:07] | <ergonlogic> | I'm setting up a local jenkins to start putting together some selenium tests |
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| [00:55:45] | <anarcat> | so wait, we can install sites and platforms and servers - why don't we ship this in 2.x again? :P |
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| [00:55:56] | <anarcat> | hi :) |
| [00:55:58] | <darthsteven> | because it's so broken around the edges |
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| [00:56:21] | <ergonlogic> | half the modules haven't been tested beyond enabling them |
| [00:57:47] | * anarcat reviewing the install notes |
| [00:57:49] | <anarcat> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/389/revisions/view/4630/4673 |
| [00:57:58] | <anarcat> | "Please make sure your nginx installation is up and running before continuing. On Ubuntu 12.04 Server, for instance, you must edit /etc/nginx/nginx.conf and uncomment the line "types_hash_max_size 2048;" in order for nginx to start successfully. |
| [00:58:02] | <anarcat> | whaa? |
| [00:58:04] | * ergonlogic looks |
| [00:58:44] | <anarcat> | it's the recent edit http://community.aegirproject.org/node/389/revisions/view/4630/4673 |
| [00:59:09] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: yeah |
| [00:59:12] | <anarcat> | i already reverted part of the commit |
| [00:59:18] | <ergonlogic> | ok |
| [00:59:23] | <anarcat> | regarding commandline switches, i think it's a bad idea to put it there |
| [00:59:37] | <anarcat> | because we'll need to remember to edit it there when we make changes, no way it will stay consistent |
| [01:00:12] | <ergonlogic> | he'd fought to install aegir on nginx with a remote mariadb db, and I asked him to update the docs with his experience |
| [01:00:24] | <ergonlogic> | yeah, I thought the same... |
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| [01:01:09] | <anarcat> | "types_hash_max_size 2048" can't possibly be related to mariadb |
| [01:01:37] | <anarcat> | i wish /someone/ would take care of making aegir work with nginx correctly, out of the box (and without barracuda) |
| [01:01:42] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: that's in the nginx part, no? |
| [01:01:55] | <anarcat> | i am not sure i am the right guy for that, last i tried things went up in flames :P |
| [01:02:08] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: right - but that's what i am saying: why is that bit necessary? |
| [01:02:15] | <anarcat> | why isn't that in the generated config? |
| [01:02:16] | <ergonlogic> | got me |
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| [01:03:02] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: that all would be a worthy goal for 3.x :p |
| [01:03:07] | <anarcat> | pff |
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| [01:03:26] | <anarcat> | those patches have been sitting in the queue for months: https://drupal.org/node/1635596 |
| [01:04:57] | <ergonlogic> | hmm, I could test them in aegir-up |
| [01:05:05] | <ergonlogic> | but I know next to nothing about nginx |
| [01:05:31] | <anarcat> | you may have heard of it - it's a webserver :P |
| [01:05:40] | <anarcat> | what i mean is: it isn't all that complicated |
| [01:05:55] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: are you still convinced that a re-write is needed ? |
| [01:06:03] | <anarcat> | but whatever, maybe you're right and this is not a priority |
| [01:06:35] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: well, it a priority in so far as enough people care, right? |
| [01:06:43] | <ergonlogic> | so far, that doesn't seem to be the case |
| [01:07:29] | <ergonlogic> | I'll set some time aside next week to test those patches |
| [01:08:04] | <anarcat> | i care |
| [01:08:29] | <anarcat> | and if we end up having to hack the install manual to add blurbs to the builtin confs, something is wrong with the confs, or with us |
| [01:08:40] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: ok, so we'll fix it |
| [01:10:17] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: that note was referring to the default nginx conf, no? We override those in an aegir.conf, like with apache? |
| [01:11:12] | <anarcat> | it's unclear, unfortunately |
| [01:11:20] | <anarcat> | we override way too much stuff, if you ask me |
| [01:11:25] | <anarcat> | but that's the core of the debate here |
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| [01:11:50] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: the reason I ask is that it seems like (with proper test coverage) we could start re-factoring some things to be entities |
| [01:12:13] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: right |
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| [01:19:43] | <Rosso__> | hello all.. Is it possible to setup backup per platform. I don't want to backup all platform just production platforms. |
| [01:21:38] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: we don't seem to have nginx equivalents to drush_hook_provision_apache_XXX_config()... |
| [01:21:48] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: amongst other things |
| [01:21:52] | <ergonlogic> | Rosso__: you mean for the automated backups |
| [01:22:31] | <Rosso__> | yes |
| [01:22:44] | <Rosso__> | ergonlogic, yes |
| [01:22:46] | <ergonlogic> | Rosso__: I think it's pretty much global or site-specific settings. I agree that platform-wide settings would be a good feature |
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| [01:23:24] | <Rosso__> | ergonlogic, i have 2 issues, per platform, and remote server backup |
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| [01:24:11] | <Rosso__> | at this moment i have large sites ( 3GB), backup through an external connection takes a lot of time |
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| [01:28:42] | <ergonlogic> | Rosso__: re remotes, I don't think we'll be able to fix that until we've made remotes smarter |
| [01:29:02] | <ergonlogic> | i.e. running drush/provision |
| [01:29:17] | <ergonlogic> | there are a couple open issues about that |
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| [01:32:20] | <Rosso___> | At this moment i use rdiff, but unfortunally yoiu cannot restore from hostmaster |
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| [01:33:16] | <heddn> | using omega8 and i'm trying to build my own custom install profile that requires additional modules, how can I use the omega8 drupal core still? |
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| [01:36:17] | <heddn> | how can I pull from omega8's github copy of D7 instead of d.o? |
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| [01:38:58] | <heddn> | ah, found an example: http://yaremchuk.ru/blog/start-you-own-drupal-distribution-drush-make-pa... |
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| [02:36:42] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: yes, we should still refactor to entities where we can |
| [02:37:07] | <darthsteven> | but that could totally happen in Aegit 4, 5, 6 etc |
| [02:37:21] | <darthsteven> | tasks are a natural fit for entities |
| [02:37:24] | <darthsteven> | so are packages |
| [02:37:34] | <darthsteven> | everything else, I'm less sure about |
| [02:37:45] | <darthsteven> | also, it'd be a good idea to start using fields more |
| [02:37:51] | <darthsteven> | so we can drop all our crud code |
| [02:37:56] | <darthsteven> | which would be nice :) |
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| [03:02:01] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: right, I was thinking post 3.x |
| [03:02:09] | <darthsteven> | yeah, for sure |
| [03:02:16] | <ergonlogic> | clients seem a natural fit for og, too |
| [03:02:52] | <ergonlogic> | I talked with Amitai at DC Montreal, and he agreed |
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| [03:03:53] | <ergonlogic> | it'd be nice to get the full views integration into 3.x |
| [03:04:13] | <ergonlogic> | since that's pretty far advanced |
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| [03:05:51] | <ergonlogic> | back in a bit |
| [03:05:52] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: yeah, views would be good |
| [03:05:53] | <darthsteven> | sure |
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| [03:15:46] | <layke_> | Hey guys. Is there any easy way I could connect up some API to automatically launch Drupal sites from one application to another? |
| [03:16:05] | <layke_> | I'd like to launch a fresh Drupal install for some clients automatically when they pay for a package.. |
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| [03:16:30] | <layke_> | I was looking through the docs, but couldn't quite see how I would provision another site install.. |
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| [04:14:04] | <Ogredude> | layke_: Aegir will do that. But it requires an unmanaged VPS. |
| [04:14:28] | <Ogredude> | it even has an ubercart integration module so people can purchase plans |
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| [04:19:03] | <layke_> | Well, my website, is starting to branch out to basically offer property agents their own website. It's a vacation rental marketting company... Agents list their properties, and they get their own website with all of their properties... |
| [04:19:15] | <layke_> | My issue, is that a lot of agents now want content management.. |
| [04:19:27] | <Ogredude> | yeh |
| [04:19:29] | <layke_> | I don't quite have the time/resources to create something built in. |
| [04:19:58] | <Ogredude> | with Aegir you can set up a platform that's got all the modules and stuff that one of these sites would have. Especially if you build all your functionality into Features. |
| [04:20:04] | <layke_> | So I was thinking of having a "press this button" for a Drupal website, and have a pre configured theme that I set up, and it runs under their site etc.. |
| [04:20:14] | <Ogredude> | then you can set up a new site by just telling Aegir to spool up a new site on that platform. |
| [04:20:16] | <layke_> | Yeah. I've used Aegir about 18 months ago, and it was great for that. |
| [04:20:28] | <layke_> | But as far as I recall.... |
| [04:20:35] | <layke_> | It required logging into Aegir, and configuring things. |
| [04:20:47] | <layke_> | Call me lazy... but I'd like to automate this as much as possible. |
| [04:20:59] | <Ogredude> | Upgrading's pretty easy, you just write a drush makefile with all the updated versions of modules and such and tell Aegir that it's a new platform, then migrate your sites to it |
| [04:21:01] | <layke_> | I'm happy to configure the modules and things and create a "base" site install. |
| [04:21:42] | <Ogredude> | layke_: well from what I understand, with the Ubercart plugin, customer would login to online store, purchase hosting plan, pay, and Aegir fires up a site for them based on the platform you specify, and sends them their login credentials |
| [04:22:05] | <layke_> | Okay, I'll take a look at Ubercart plugin to see how they do it. |
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| [04:22:34] | <layke_> | I'd want to build it in myself to my own panel/system. |
| [04:22:52] | <Ogredude> | ah well I don't have a clue about auto-provisioning sites without Aegir |
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| [04:23:31] | <layke_> | As I recall, (18 months ago) you couldn't get hostmaster to do anything automated, you'd have to create a wrapper around it and create your own interface to do it, but I'm sure if I take a look at Ubercart I might be able to figure it out |
| [04:23:32] | <Ogredude> | haven't gotten our Aegir fully up and running yet, my current method for making a new site is cp -R sites/blank_site sites/customername, manually create a database and manually edit settings.php, and manually import a db dump |
| [04:23:54] | <layke_> | Hehe yeah, that is mine :) |
| [04:23:58] | <layke_> | I don't use Drupal that much though |
| [04:24:33] | <layke_> | I'm not sure either, if I were to use Aegir for the above, if I would create new Drupal installs for each |
| [04:24:39] | <layke_> | Or if I would somehow create new /sites/* |
| [04:27:39] | <Ogredude> | nah |
| [04:28:04] | <Ogredude> | from what I understand, Aegir does all that for you |
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