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[00:37:55]<busla>Has anyone had a problem with provision not being able to create the /sites directory when installing a new platform?
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[00:39:40]<busla>it doesn´t seem to be related to my custom distro, I tried creating a platform from using drupal-7.21 but I get the same error
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[04:00:58]<ergonlogic>busla: I assume you meant the site's (or sites/example.com/) dir... the /sites directory exists in drupal core. Aegir doesn't create it.
[04:02:00]<ergonlogic>anarcat: any idea, off hand, what happens if you try to hosting-import a context for an object that already exists in the front-end?
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[04:12:07]<anarcat>ergonlogic: good question, i don't know
[04:12:11]<anarcat>i am not very familiar with hosting-import
[04:12:30]<ergonlogic>anarcat: well, I'll let you know in a bit :)
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[04:14:01]<ergonlogic>anarcat: I'm planning to move the building of platforms in puppet-aegir from running drush-make itself, to just saving the platform context and hosting-import'ing it.
[04:15:08]<ergonlogic>but since the drush-make exec resource has a 'creates' parameter of the platform's dir, it may try to re-import it, if it fails and does a rollback
[04:21:47]<joestewart>ergonlogic: Curious about this part of your D7 status post - "Add (Selenium) tests of 'core' functionality". I was curious if y'all were using behat?
[04:23:52]<ergonlogic>Hi joestewart, not at this point
[04:24:29]<ergonlogic>but we'd be open to patches (wink, wink) :)
[04:26:12]<joestewart>ergonlogic: ok, it was timely as I've been recently using behat for other stuff and was going to ask here about setting up some tests. IF I get some time I might try to piece together some proof of concept stuff in a sandbox and then see where it might fit in.
[04:26:56]<ergonlogic>joestewart: that'd be great!
[04:27:26]<ergonlogic>joestewart: I've had problems with the selenium standalone server hanging when running headlessly
[04:28:03]<ergonlogic>joestewart: but I hear calling webdriver directly is the way to go
[04:29:07]<ergonlogic>joestewart: one of my design goals here is to make building tests accessible to regular users, which selenium ide makes pretty straight-forward
[04:29:11]<joestewart>I haven't been running selenium headlessly yet. mostly running tests that didn't need javascript so it's been more optional.
[04:29:57]<ergonlogic>it could also allow for easier replication of bug reports, etc.
[04:30:34]<ergonlogic>a cursory google search turned up this: https://github.com/Behat/MinkSeleniumDriver
[04:32:43]<anarcat>behat is cool
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[04:32:48]<anarcat>didnt know about this
[04:34:09]<joestewart>yes by default it runs a text browser that doesn't have javascript support. To send to selenium, just tag with @javascript or change default browser in a yml file.
[04:35:16]<ergonlogic>nice
[04:35:21]<joestewart>There are some Drupal extensions and examples too : http://drupal.org/project/drupalextension and http://drupal.org/project/doobie
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[04:37:33]<ergonlogic>joestewart: do you know whether it'll run the tests built in selenium ide?
[04:38:12]<joestewart>ergonlogic: I don't think so. They are simple yml syntax stories.
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[04:39:07]<joestewart>example: http://drupalcode.org/project/doobie.git/blob/refs/heads/7.x-1.x:/featur...
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[04:40:01]<ergonlogic>very nice
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[04:47:42]<lavamind>hello, I'm looking for the per-site cron config options refferred to on http://omega8.cc/running-scheduled-sites-cron-in-aegir-118
[04:47:46]<lavamind>running aegir 1.9
[04:48:07]<lavamind>"you can configure (or even disable) cron interval per site by editing site node in your Aegir control panel"
[04:48:29]<lavamind>however I see no such option for cron interval when editing a site node
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[04:58:53]<ergonlogic>lavamind: hosting_advanced_cron
[04:59:30]<lavamind>ergonlogic: I can use this module with confidence? will it remain compatible with 2.x ?
[05:00:07]<ergonlogic>lavamind: I'm testing it now, as I'm going to port the site-specific stuff to hosting_civicrm_cron
[05:00:17]<ergonlogic>lavamind: but I don't have any previous experience with it
[05:00:18]<anarcat>i don't think modules will be very hard to port to 2.x
[05:00:23]<anarcat>most should just work out of the box, in fact
[05:00:39]<ergonlogic>yeah, api changes are pretty minimal
[05:00:43]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading/path
[05:00:57]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading/path#Deprecated_functions_re...
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[05:01:14]<ergonlogic>lavamind: but you'll still need to do your due dilligence
[05:03:50]<lavamind>alright, thanks
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[06:17:17]<omega8cc>lavamind: there is nothing 1.x or 2.x specific and this module works with both Aegir 1.x and 2.x, see also https://github.com/omega8cc/hosting_advanced_cron
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[07:09:14]<jcornwell>Afternoon everyone. Is there any documentation on how to give clients FTP or SSH access to their site content?
[07:09:49]<jcornwell>I haven't been able to find any that's not specific to omega8.
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[07:24:29]<ergonlogic>jcornwell: for SSH access, you may want to consider provisionacl
[07:24:45]<jcornwell>I'll check it out, thanks.
[07:24:59]<ergonlogic>jcornwell: for sftp, it's usually manual
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[07:26:09]<ergonlogic>jcornwell: it involves a regular sftp setup limited to a user's home dir, then we move the site's files/ (and maybe modules, themes, etc.) into their home dir, and create symlinks form the site's dir
[07:26:28]<ergonlogic>s/form/from
[07:27:12]<ergonlogic>unfortunately, it currently means that a backup won't catch files and whatever, since it won't follow symlinks
[07:27:46]<ergonlogic>this is actually a feature in some cases though, when you have a lot of files
[07:28:02]<ergonlogic>by excluding them from backups this way, site migrations are much faster
[07:28:12]<jcornwell>Indeed.
[07:28:29]<ergonlogic>they can still be backed up n the normal fashion, with rsync or whatever
[07:28:41]<jcornwell>Thanks for your help. I've got some reading and testing to do. :) I'm sure I'll be back at some point, lol
[07:28:45]<omega8cc>jcornwell: just for clarity, shell+ftps (without sftp) setup we use is boa specific, not our hosted service specific, so it is easy to replicate with provided simple script
[07:29:50]<ergonlogic>jcornwell: also, remember that the handbook is a wiki, so feel free to document your findings ;)
[07:30:12]<jcornwell>omega8cc: Yeah, but I don't have Barracuda/Octopus installed at the moment. Though reading them over, I may consider.
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[07:30:55]<jcornwell>Anyway, must run. Thanks again guys
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[07:31:18]<omega8cc>jcornwell: you don't need a full boa stack for this, just install the lshell+pureftpd part of it and add one script which automates everything
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[07:43:51]<busla>ergonlogic: In this case it was /drupal-7.21/sites that couldn´t be created. But it had nothing to do with Ægir, the hard drive was full :-)
[07:45:23]<busla>ergonlogic: when I manually created the platform, Drush gave me a "not enough space" error, the frontend didn´t
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