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[12:32:35]<nicxvan>how is aegir with custom distributions of drupal
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[13:30:47]<mvc>nicxvan: like pressflow? it works just fine
[13:31:21]<nicxvan>No my own distribution
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[02:27:44]<Rosso__>hello all,
[02:28:01]<Rosso__>i like to migrate a site to another hostmaster. any hints?
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[02:37:05]<hefring>community => Aegir Install Profiles vs. Site Profiles => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/aegir-install-profiles-vs-site...
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[02:44:57]<joestewart>Rosso__: Check out http://drupal.org/project/hosting_remote_import and http://drupal.org/project/hosting_remote_import
[02:45:17]<noecc>Rosso__: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/importing-existing-aegir-backups
[02:46:54]<Rosso__>joestewart, thnks, just what i was looking for
[02:47:02]<Rosso__>noecc, also thnk
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[05:32:17]<hefring>community => FEATURE REQUEST: Update to Packages List Page => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/feature-request-update-package...
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[06:23:38]<TelFiRE>Does anyone use BOA, Digital Ocean, and Drupal Commons? I have verified on three separate droplets that I cannot get Commons 7 to install , though it works on same OS with Linode
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[07:29:53]<TelFiRE>Are you aware of any bug between BOA, Digital Ocean, and Drupal Commons? 3 seperate droplets refused to install it on a fresh BOA, but works on Linode
[07:29:57]<omega8cc>hefring: tell TelFiRE: we use 1g droplet on ocean for testing and all platforms work fine, however you may have problems on 512m ram, because of their aggressive memory management
[07:29:57]<hefring>omega8cc: 5 days 17 hours ago <realityloop> tell omega8cc http://drupal.org/node/1961990
[07:29:58]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when TelFiRE is around.
[07:30:08]<TelFiRE>Haha what timing
[07:30:08]<hefring>TelFiRE: 10 sec ago <omega8cc> tell TelFiRE: we use 1g droplet on ocean for testing and all platforms work fine, however you may have problems on 512m ram, because of their aggressive memory management
[07:30:24]<omega8cc>I have read your previous msg
[07:30:31]<TelFiRE>Yeah, thanks for the answer, I'll try more ram
[07:30:55]<omega8cc>that is on the 1g droplet: http://cm32.o1.ocean.ams.host8.biz/groups
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[08:21:34]<TelFiRE>The tasks stall in the middle of verify a lot too, and I almost always have to manually delete as the task doesn't fully run. do you think these are also RAM-related
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[08:50:29]<TelFiRE>I wonder if there is any way to dedicate some SSD to swap with BOA, can't seem to find any related docs
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[09:02:56]<realityloop>omega8cc: is there a way to autotune memory allocations when VPS has been upgraded, or does that happen when you re-run the boa update already?
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[09:05:15]<omega8cc>hefring: tell TelFiRE: that is rather weird, since we have two 1g droplets in EU and US for testing and it works with such issues, but their resources management is pretty aggressive anyway
[09:05:15]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when TelFiRE is around.
[09:06:23]<omega8cc>realityloop: how you think it could work? you need to run `barracuda up-stable system` to get it tuned automatically, just to avoid upgrading Aegir at the same time
[09:07:42]<realityloop>omega8cc: I wasn't nessecarily suggesting it as a feature, I was asking if it does that already, or if not how do we do it?
[09:08:09]<omega8cc>realityloop: note that the special `system` mode is silent, it writes to the log and sends the report via e-mail
[09:08:28]<realityloop>omega8cc: yeah it was the emailled version that I uploaded
[09:09:11]<realityloop>assuming your talking about the task queue issue I was having
[09:09:21]<omega8cc>you need to run the system upgrade, there is no daemon which could overwrite configs and reload services on the fly once it discovers resources change
[09:09:47]<omega8cc>there is also the `log` mode
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[09:10:13]<omega8cc>it is also silent and sends the report, but it also upgrades Aegir
[09:10:19]<realityloop>omega8cc: so your saying that the configs do get set to optimal defaults when you run system upgrade?
[09:10:28]<omega8cc>yes
[09:10:35]<realityloop>omega8cc: cool.. thanks
[09:10:39]<omega8cc>np
[09:10:54]<realityloop>omega8cc: do you have any thoughts on 64bit vs 32bit OS?
[09:11:02]<realityloop>with regard to BOA
[09:12:31]<omega8cc>it matters when you plan to use more than 4GB RAM, so it is not really BOA related, just note that you can't "upgrade" from 32 to 64, so we always recommend to use 64 bit systems, even if you start with 1g RAM
[09:12:56]<realityloop>omega8cc: I was more after what you reccomend, this box is already 64
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[09:13:13]<realityloop>linode did some performance tests and reccomended 32bit
[09:13:24]<realityloop>that was a while back though
[09:14:17]<omega8cc>I don't trust such tests, maybe they should upgrade their hardware (they do that, in fact) to stop blindly recommending 32bit
[09:14:50]<omega8cc>also, 64 = 8 x 8, so you know our preference and recommended setup
[09:14:57]<omega8cc>lol
[09:15:01]<realityloop>omega8cc: it was a while ago, so they may have chenged their recommendation already
[09:15:08]<realityloop>heh
[09:15:33]<realityloop>omega8cc: we have a client site that is not doing very well at handling requests over 200/minute, the OS is already 64bit and the sever is specced to 3GB ram, I'm not sure how many cores though
[09:15:34]<omega8cc>they should, because 32bit is too limited on servers
[09:17:23]<omega8cc>test this with new relic first, then determine if this is just a weak machine it is hosted on, linode often "suggests" that they would migrate your vps if you start complaining that it is too slow
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[09:17:46]<realityloop>omega8cc: thanks I will suggest that then
[09:17:52]<omega8cc>so they oversell
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[09:17:58]<omega8cc>np
[09:18:15]<realityloop>this isn't linode.. it's a much smaller host in Australia so that is likely the cause
[09:18:31]<omega8cc>ah, so even more possible
[09:19:01]<omega8cc>I hope it is not Virtuozzo etc
[09:19:12]<realityloop>omega8cc: as far as I know is Xen
[09:20:41]<realityloop>if I needed to add a redirect for handbook/* to a new domain maintaining the path that comes after * where can I put that so that it won't get overwritten in BOA updates?
[09:20:43]<omega8cc>we have seen at least 3 servers at Rackspace so slow (for weeks and months) the even getting any command typed takes many seconds, so it happens to both small and big hosts
[09:21:20]<omega8cc>show me the example
[09:21:57]<omega8cc>have you noticed that double, two level locations in the custom rewrites example?
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[09:22:54]<omega8cc>the parent location makes it stop there, to avoid using other rewrites/locations, while the inner location does the real work
[09:23:04]<omega8cc>so you should use it as a template
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