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[10:15:30]<realityloop>omega8cc: are you willing to share what process you use for upgradong BOA om multiple servers at once?
[10:15:43]<realityloop>upgrading
[10:19:36]<omega8cc>on our hosted service it is more complicated, because we don't use BOA as-is, in its standalone, single vps mode, but on all remote servers it is very simple - we just run standard wrappers from cron weekly, or on demand when there is security update, it is even explained in this commit, one sec, I need to find it
[10:22:38]<omega8cc>http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/commit/de32a02
[10:22:48]<omega8cc>realityloop: ^^
[10:23:27]<realityloop>omega8cc: awesome, thanks
[10:23:43]<omega8cc>np
[10:24:30]<realityloop>is it possible to schedule with Aegir instance upgrade as well?
[10:24:42]<realityloop>or that always requires interaction?
[10:25:44]<omega8cc>simple, just add entry with "barracuda up-stable log", or to upgrade to Aegir vanilla 2.x "barracuda up-head aegir"
[10:25:53]<omega8cc>and for all octopuses:
[10:26:06]<omega8cc>octopus up-stable all log
[10:26:08]<omega8cc>done
[10:26:14]<realityloop>thanks
[10:26:25]<omega8cc>just read the e-mail reports
[10:26:45]<realityloop>yep
[10:27:13]<omega8cc>because it sometimes fails, like d.o down, github down etc
[10:27:35]<realityloop>would probably do the aegir updates manually as hostmaster doesn't change as often anyway
[10:28:46]<omega8cc>for octopus instances you can run aegir and/or platforms upgrades separately
[10:29:20]<omega8cc>Usage: octopus {up-stable|up-head} {all|o1} {aegir|platforms|both}
[10:29:44]<realityloop>we're still not using octopus
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[10:30:13]<omega8cc>note that {aegir|platforms|both} forces the upgrade, as otherwise it will not allow you to run more than one upgrade daily
[10:30:22]<omega8cc>heh
[10:31:11]<omega8cc>you don't use Redis caching?
[10:31:55]<realityloop>if there was a way to do it without the auto password resets etc we'd use it.. but we prefer to keep all access key based
[10:32:50]<omega8cc>how is this related to keys? and w/o Redis you are running BOA at 1/5 speed or worse
[10:33:39]<realityloop>omega8cc: I've been meaning to test things again, octopus sets up sftp and passworded accounts doesn't it?
[10:34:30]<omega8cc>yes, but all passwords are strong and expire after 90 days, so where is the problem?
[10:35:09]<realityloop>I don't want password based access at all, and would prefer not to have SFTP enabled either
[10:35:33]<omega8cc>even keys will not be enough if the password expires, so it gives you double protection
[10:36:03]<realityloop>I normally disable password based login on my servers
[10:37:06]<omega8cc>I'm not sure if you realize that BOA makes it more secure with passwords expiration than your keys only based access
[10:37:32]<realityloop>omega8cc: we only have 2 people accessing our servers and they both work here
[10:38:07]<omega8cc>and then don't have these keys on their laptops?
[10:38:20]<omega8cc>err and they*
[10:38:24]<realityloop>if we were providing something like your hosting it would make sense, but for us it's an annoyance to have passwords
[10:39:15]<omega8cc>security is about annoyance, to some degree :)
[10:39:17]<realityloop>we can set passwords on our keys, we don't need passwords on the user accounts as well
[10:39:22]<realityloop>true
[10:40:25]<realityloop>I disable root login and there is only 1 other account apart from the aegir user on our boxes
[10:40:43]<realityloop>all access is key based
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[17:53:05]<lsolesen1>Any of you know how to remedy a missing newrelic.so after upgrading to 2.09 in BOA? http://drupal.org/node/1994254
[17:53:06]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1994254 => newrelic.so cannot be loaded after upgrading to BOA 2.09 [#1994254] => Barracuda, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[00:55:43]<Morbus>where does Aegir store its IP address association for an SSL domain?
[00:55:54]<Morbus>i have specific IPs that need to go to specific domains, and i’m having trouble getting aegir to map them properly.
[01:01:40]<Morbus>i even have a free IP available (based on it only being assigned to the server in hosting_ip_addresses), but Aegir won’t assign the damn thing to the site.
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[01:51:34]<noecc>Morbus: FWIW http://drupal.org/node/1126640
[01:51:35]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1126640 => move the SSL IP allocation to the frontend [#1126640] => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, closed (fixed), 37 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[01:51:52]<Morbus>ah, awesome.
[01:51:59]<Morbus>yeah, i had to do a bunch of various crap to do what i want.
[01:52:12]<Morbus>the big issue was there was still a .receipt file.
[01:52:32]<Morbus>so, even though i changed Site A from custom SSL cert to no SSL, the receipt with the IP was still in place.
[01:52:39]<Morbus>which prevented Site B from getting the IP I wanted it to get.
[01:53:11]<Morbus>ended up deleting the relevant receipts, setting Sites A, B, C to no-SSL, removing all IPs, then adding A IP, assigning A to SSL, adding B IP, assigning B to SSL, etc.
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[02:15:54]<lsolesen1>Any of you know how to remedy a missing http://newrelic.so/ after upgrading to 2.09 in BOA? http://drupal.org/node/1994254
[02:15:54]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1994254 => newrelic.so cannot be loaded after upgrading to BOA 2.09 [#1994254] => Barracuda, Code, normal, active, 3 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[04:21:12]<tdguy>hey I need some advice on drush site aliases. I've got a site that ends up with a really long site alias, I'd like to have a shorter one to work with. So I edited the appropriate alias.drushrc.php file and copy/pasted the existing alias and renamed it.
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[04:22:33]<tdguy>now when I do drush @really.long.alias.thingy.com.mydomain.com.whatever status it works fine but if I drush @shortname status it tells me it could not find a Drupal settings.php file at ./sites/default/settings.php
[04:25:24]<tdguy>on drush 4.5 and ubuntu server 12.04
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[04:29:18]<tdguy>the site_path in the alias is correct
[04:30:31]<tdguy>putting the alias into a separate file works.
[04:30:40]<tdguy>why is that? I've never seen such a thing in drush.
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[04:57:47]<noecc>tdguy: drush help provision-save
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