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[10:24:41]<Deciphered>anarcat: Hey, what time will work for you in the Coders lounge tonight?
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[10:31:48]<Deciphered>anarcat: I'm in the coders lounge (in the convention centre) now
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[23:51:01]<ergonlogic>anarcat: I haven't been able to replicate the issue you reported in http://drupal.org/node/2000228
[23:51:02]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/2000228 => Ensure upgrade path works for 2.x [#2000228] => Hosting, Code, normal, needs review, 4 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[23:51:33]<ergonlogic>I've described my testing procedure in some detail, so maybe you can point out whatever might be missing
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[00:57:44]<helmo>Goodmorning ergonlogic and others
[00:58:30]<helmo>up for a provisionacl question?
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[01:01:07]<helmo>anyway: How does provisionacl work for new files created by a user from the client group? The aegir user doen not seem to have the privileges to update the acl on such a file. Which would need help from e.g. the root user to fix.
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[01:21:01]<ergonlogic>hi helmo
[01:22:59]<ergonlogic>there have been a number of issues related to this, I believe
[01:23:28]<ergonlogic>but I'm not familiar enough to really answer
[01:24:18]<ergonlogic>I'd suggest a 'support request' issue, that can then become either better documentation, or a feature request
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[01:35:47]<helmo>ergonlogic: ok, I've created http://drupal.org/node/2000834 anarcat?
[01:35:48]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/2000834 => New files from regular users can't get a new acl from provisionacl? [#2000834] => Provision ACL support, User interface, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[01:36:42]<helmo>how is it in Portland?
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[02:00:06]<Deciphered>anarcat: Obviously the coders lounge wasn't really available last night, but I am in the coders lounge in the convention centre now, so if you're around and available feel free to grab me.
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[02:13:42]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: hey got a couple minutes to review views integration?
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[02:33:51]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: Sure
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[02:39:01]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: great
[02:40:21]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: I'm looking at http://drupalcode.org/project/hosting.git/blob/HEAD:/hosting.install#l402
[02:40:56]<ergonlogic>and I'm wondering about the last couple install_set_block()'s
[02:42:27]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: Sure. They are the reason I wanted to have Context as part of the upgrade :)
[02:42:37]<ergonlogic>right
[02:42:48]<ergonlogic>but couldn't that go in the block definitions?
[02:43:28]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: They are the site lists for different sections in the content bottom section, block_1 is the list of sites for a platform, block_2 is the list of sites for a specific install profile
[02:43:40]<Deciphered>block_3 is the list of sites for a specific client
[02:44:23]<ergonlogic>I also wonder whether we couldn't name them more descriptively :)
[02:44:34]<Deciphered>That could definetely help, for sure
[02:45:18]<ergonlogic>I'm thinking that logic could go in hook_block($op = 'view'
[02:45:27]<ergonlogic>the visibility, that is
[02:46:12]<ergonlogic>because it isn't applied for a fresh install
[02:46:31]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: Can that be done for a block defined by a View? Never done that before, but yeah, I'm all for that
[02:47:00]<ergonlogic>hmm, let me poke around a bit more
[02:47:53]<ergonlogic>also, I think 'site operations' & 'platform operations' would be better than 'bulk operations', assuming that's configurable...
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[02:48:01]<ergonlogic>I think it's closer to what we had before
[02:49:12]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: I'd also appreciate your feedback on http://drupal.org/node/1882708
[02:49:12]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1882708 => Unused 'release_id' field in 'hosting_platform' [#1882708] => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, active, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[02:49:32]<ergonlogic>so that we can finish http://drupal.org/node/1876350
[02:49:33]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1876350 => Convert list of platforms to use views [#1876350] => Hosting, Code, critical, active, 3 comments, 1 IRC mention
[02:49:59]<ergonlogic>which has been upgraded to a release blocker for 2.x
[02:50:16]<ergonlogic>(thanks anarcat :P)
[02:52:32]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: Sure thing, just in the process of re-building my hostmaster on my vm to make sure I've got the latest stuff, then I will look at it
[02:52:57]<ergonlogic>yeah same here
[02:53:04]<ergonlogic>also taking a quick lunch break
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[03:10:36]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: hostmaster.make/drupal-org.make have duplicate entries, I'll file an issue for it shortly if there isn't one, but pretty minor issue
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[03:11:04]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: I don't think they're duplicate
[03:11:37]<Deciphered>drupal-org.make is included by hostmaster.make, and both have entries for hosting and eldir
[03:11:39]<ergonlogic>they're intended to build from packages in drupal-org.make, but override with the git versions in hostmaster.make
[03:11:59]<Deciphered>Ah
[03:12:25]<ergonlogic>we're re-working the release/build process, now that we've split out hosting
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[03:17:44]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: also, if you get the chance, it'd be great if you could test the upgrade path for views integration: http://drupal.org/node/2000228
[03:17:45]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/2000228 => Ensure upgrade path works for 2.x [#2000228] => Hosting, Code, normal, needs review, 4 comments, 4 IRC mentions
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[03:18:48]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: Yeah, saw the hosting thing, very awesome, allows for alternate distros to be built without branching the main project
[03:19:01]<ergonlogic>exactly
[03:19:04]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: Will do, I've got my vm setup for the upgrade test
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[03:37:54]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: Still playing with that release thing, I still kind of like the idea of keeping the release_id column and actually using it, as it makes the whole thing super simple....
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[03:42:13]<Deciphered>However, it should be achievable with two Views relationship fields, so I'll see what I can do
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[03:57:48]<anarcat>Deciphered: sorry, i went out last night :)
[03:57:56]<anarcat>at the drush session now
[03:58:02]<anarcat>ergonlogic: ping
[03:58:37]<ergonlogic>anarcat: pong
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[04:00:12]<anarcat>ergonlogic: so i tried installing from scratch (or almost: provision-delete + hostmaster-install) and i didn't have a site view
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[04:01:17]<ergonlogic>anarcat: so, how would that be different from hostmaster-uninstall+hostmaster-install ?
[04:01:50]<ergonlogic>and presumably, if you checkout pre-views commits, it all works properly?
[04:02:17]<anarcat>well, i didn't try that, but i assume so
[04:02:26]<anarcat>the site list views just doesn't get loaded at all
[04:03:34]<ergonlogic>I haven't been able to replicate that
[04:04:09]<anarcat>weeird
[04:04:23]<anarcat>so i have been trying to figure out how the views are actually created
[04:04:28]<anarcat>and i couldn't find that in the .install files
[04:04:32]<anarcat>what am i missing?
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[04:05:03]<ergonlogic>they're in *.views_default.inc, or something like that
[04:05:27]<ergonlogic>and so get enabled with their respective modules
[04:05:28]<ergonlogic>iirc
[04:05:53]<ergonlogic>Deciphered surely knows more about it that me :)
[04:06:00]<anarcat>yeah, but how do those files get sourced?
[04:06:02]<ergonlogic>s/that/than
[04:06:13]<anarcat>right
[04:07:08]<anarcat>ergonlogic: drush make 6 can use distributions as core!!
[04:07:21]<ergonlogic>sweet!
[04:07:39]<ergonlogic>I wish we'd known that last week...
[04:07:39]<anarcat>seems like this one of the bits that was missing for us
[04:07:50]<Deciphered>anarcat: As long as the module has hook_views_api() defined the file will automatically get included and read from
[04:07:55]<anarcat>projects[kickstart][type] = "core"
[04:08:16]<anarcat>Deciphered: but how do the views get created?
[04:08:24]<anarcat>sorry for the silly questions, i haven't used views for ages
[04:08:34]<ergonlogic>http://views-help.doc.logrus.com/help/views/api-default-views
[04:08:46]<Deciphered>anarcat: Those files contain the views definition, when the module is turned on they get imported in, it
[04:08:57]<Deciphered>It's the same concept as Features
[04:08:57]<anarcat>i see
[04:09:17]<anarcat>oooh
[04:09:26]<anarcat>defaults[projects][subdir] = "contrib"!
[04:09:52]<Deciphered>Nice, I look forward to using that
[04:09:55]<ergonlogic>yeah, I saw that was committed last week
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[04:11:09]<Deciphered>Is 6.x-2.x going to support Drush 6?
[04:11:21]<anarcat>i guess not
[04:11:32]<anarcat>but we are going to run towards aegir 3 pretty quick after that
[04:11:38]<Deciphered>Shame :| But not surprising given the timeframe
[04:11:47]<anarcat>yeah, it's kind of crazy
[04:13:37]<ergonlogic>anarcat: also, the SNI stuff could go in aegir3, i'd think, since presumably we'll want to support aegir2 until WindowsXP's demise
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[04:18:55]<Deciphered>Damn this Release thing is kicking my ass.... I'm just going to have to suck it up and write a field handler full stop
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[04:22:11]<anarcat>ergonlogic: agreed for SNI
[04:22:26]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i have reproduced, again, the "sites view missing" bug
[04:22:41]<anarcat>i did: drush @hostmaster hostmaster-uninstall --all
[04:22:58]<anarcat>drush hostmaster-install --http_service_type=nginx
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[04:25:20]<ergonlogic>and both hostmaster and hosting are at the latest 6.x-2.x commits?
[04:25:29]<ergonlogic>sorry for the stupid questions...
[04:26:04]<ergonlogic>as soon as I'm done with a client request, I'll try again with nginx
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[04:39:57]<anarcat>head of hosting is dc625d08c0a947157b74586c03d3f5ecbbc89339
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[04:58:47]<Ogredude_>I'm having problems migrating a site to a new platform. The new platform is showing 1 error. It looks like this: draggableviews 7.x-2.0 (7203) 7.x-2.0 (7001)
[04:59:24]<Ogredude_>I'm assuming the number in parenthesis is the update number and it's erring out because the target has a lower update number than current.
[04:59:29]<Ogredude_>I'm not exactly sure what to do to solve this.
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[05:11:55]<Ogredude>how is the schema version different anyway? Schema shouldn't enter into it on the platform level, there's no database attached to a platform
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[05:14:17]<Ogredude>I tried http://maxbronsema.com/blog/2012/01/19/mitigating-errors-when-migrating-... but I have no option to select versions. It just says "No pending updates." and links me to the front page and admin pages.
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[05:33:51]<gboudrias>Ogredude: I'm not sure what you mean, but the error is simply that the new platform doesn't contain as recent a version of draggableviews as the one you're migrating from
[05:34:02]<gboudrias>Ogredude: Veryfying the platforms may solve your problem
[05:34:11]<gboudrias>Ogredude: And the site, after the platforms
[05:34:39]<gboudrias>Ogredude: Unless of course the version really is older on the new platform, in which case you have to upgrade it
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[05:36:26]<gboudrias>Ogredude: I'm talking about the modules in /var/aegir/[platform]/sites/all , which Aegir also considers when migrating, to make sure you don't mess up the site by jumping back to an older version of a module.
[05:39:07]<Ogredude>gboudrias: they're the same version, actually
[05:39:17]<Ogredude>I've verified both platforms and the site several times
[05:39:22]<Ogredude>it's the schema version that's different
[05:39:29]<Ogredude>and I can't figure out why, because a platform doesn't even have a schema
[05:39:58]<gboudrias>Ogredude: The module has a schema, if it's Drupal 7
[05:40:14]<Ogredude>I disabled and uninstalled draggableviews and it's letting me migrate now. Hopefully I can enable it and do a bit of fiddling when I turn it back on in the new platform
[05:40:39]<gboudrias>Ogredude: And apparently the module on the old platform has more upgrades (as yuo can surely see in its .install file)
[05:41:01]<Ogredude>gboudrias: I did diff -r platforms/old/sites/all/modules/draggableviews platforms/new/sites/all/draggableviews and that says they're the same
[05:41:31]<gboudrias>Ogredude: Well alright that's weird. Anyway seems like you're good now, good luck!
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[05:44:54]<Ogredude>that was extremely weird
[05:45:17]<Ogredude>I wonder if it's a bug in draggableviews, like they're not handling the schema according to best practices or somesuch
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[05:45:50]<Ogredude>well the draggableviews.install only defines update 7001
[05:46:08]<Ogredude>so I don't know what made Aegir think the site was on schema version 7203 because that doesn't even exist in the .install
[05:46:22]<Ogredude>but I disabled and uninstalled the module, migrated, enabled the module
[05:46:40]<Ogredude>and then I just had to go back through everywhere we were using draggableviews and update/instantiate the weights on everything
[05:46:49]<gboudrias>Ogredude: Yeah that would be my guess. I think it checks in the site's DB, and the upgrade function changed its name.
[05:48:28]<Ogredude>ah well, every time I run a migration I'm learning something new about Aegir
[05:48:46]<Ogredude>I did get APC successfully installed, that increased performance dramatically
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[05:53:11]<gboudrias>heh
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[05:57:46]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: careful, it looks like your old platform was running on 7.x-2.x version http://drupalcode.org/project/draggableviews.git/blob/refs/heads/7.x-2.x...
[05:58:06]<ergonlogic>and you're upgrading to the released version
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[05:59:26]<ergonlogic>which is at least 6 months older: http://drupalcode.org/project/draggableviews.git/commit/077ba9c6fd32d27e...
[06:00:33]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: oooohhhhh
[06:00:35]<anarcat>craaappy wifi
[06:01:33]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: you'd think there'd be diffs on the filesystem then
[06:01:48]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i confirm i have the latest 6.x-2.x
[06:01:59]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: diffs on the filesystem?
[06:02:35]<ergonlogic>anarcat: yeah, I'm about to do a manual install of nginx
[06:02:38]<Ogredude>if the two platforms have different versions of draggableviews then certainly diff -r platforms/old/sites/all/modules/draggableviews/ platforms/new/sites/all/modules/draggableviews/ would show some diffs
[06:02:48]<ergonlogic>anarcat: you're running squeeze?
[06:03:01]<ergonlogic>and so using the dotdeb repo for php5-fpm?
[06:03:18]<anarcat>ergonlogic: wheezy
[06:03:33]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: yeah, it should
[06:04:00]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: was there perhaps a later version in the site's dir?
[06:04:34]<ergonlogic>anarcat: ok, that should simplify things
[06:04:40]<Ogredude>let me check, my dev is noobish enough that might be the case
[06:04:57]<Ogredude>nope, it wasn't that
[06:05:37]<Ogredude>and another site I have that's using draggableviews happily migrated
[06:05:55]<ergonlogic>it might be that it was installed in the site, then removed
[06:06:02]<ergonlogic>but we're just guessing at this point
[06:06:07]<Ogredude>I'm thinking at this point it's just a transient error caused by who the heck knows, and the whole disable -> uninstall -> migrate -> enable -> instantiate weights trick works
[06:06:16]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: that could be
[06:06:35]<Ogredude>I think I ended up having to move several modules out of sites/sitename/modules on this site, I probably missed some step along the way
[06:06:45]<Deciphered>ergonlogic/anarcat: Release stuff working, just about to roll a patch, ended up just creating a Field handler with a node_load to take advantage of the existing logic. Not overly happy with it, but the relationship approach was going to be crazy difficul
[06:06:54]<Ogredude>I don't even know the proper way to do it. I've always disable module -> move module folder -> enable module
[06:10:59]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: cool
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[06:12:06]<nicholasalipaz>If I add into /var/aegir/config/includes/fastcgi_params.conf, will my changes be overwritten on upgrades or other tasks?
[06:12:24]<nicholasalipaz>for nginx server obviously.
[06:12:36]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: I don't think there's really a good way to downgrade is Drupal, apart from disable->uninstall->enable, like you did
[06:13:01]<ergonlogic>and obviously you lose data that way, if there is any...
[06:14:19]<anarcat>nicholasalipaz: i don't think so
[06:14:29]<anarcat>nicholasalipaz: but omega8cc would know
[06:14:35]<nicholasalipaz>okay, thanks anarcat
[06:15:24]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: Will I need to make another upgrade path for those who've already applied 6016 so that the changes to the Platforms view is pulled in, or is that overkill?
[06:15:44]<Deciphered>Given that there's no stable release with the 6016 release yet (IIRC)
[06:16:04]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: yeah, thankfully there were only 3 sets of nodes that needed me to go re-initialize the draggableviews weights
[06:17:51]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: well, first off, I think it should probably be 6201
[06:18:05]<ergonlogic>anarcat: what do you think?
[06:18:20]<ergonlogic>a new hook_update? or fix the existing one?
[06:18:53]<Deciphered>Correct you are, it should be renumbered to reflect the proper branch. Though should be 6200
[06:18:53]<anarcat>it should be 6201
[06:18:56]<anarcat>not sure about new or existing
[06:19:09]<ergonlogic>I'd like to fix the visibility with a hook_block too, which would affect that
[06:19:22]<ergonlogic>I'm inclined to fix the existing one
[06:19:33]<Deciphered>The problem is that renumbering it will retrigger it for anyone who's already run it, which isn't really an issue, no ill effects, I've re-run it a few times myself
[06:20:09]<anarcat>ok
[06:20:11]<ergonlogic>yeah, but there hasn't been a release on it yet...
[06:20:12]<Deciphered>K, well I'll leave the upgrade path alone for the moment
[06:20:36]<ergonlogic>I missed it when merging the views mega patch
[06:20:59]<ergonlogic>I shouldn't have merged it into 6.x-2.x quite yet
[06:23:58]<Deciphered>Patch at: http://drupal.org/node/1876350#comment-7440926
[06:23:59]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1876350 => Convert list of platforms to use views [#1876350] => Hosting, Code, critical, needs review, 4 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[06:24:17]<Deciphered>Left my thoughts in the related issue as well, regarding the release_id column in the db
[06:25:50]<anarcat>Deciphered / ergonlogic : so i am still lost wrt why i can't have a sites list view here :)
[06:25:56]<anarcat>where should i look?
[06:26:44]<Deciphered>anarcat: Enable Views UI, and check that the views exist there
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[06:28:03]<Deciphered>anarcat: I'm in a session I've seen before, happy to leave and help you hands on
[06:29:59]<anarcat>Deciphered: the view doesn't exist, that's the crazy thing
[06:30:22]<anarcat>i had those warnings during the install
[06:30:23]<anarcat>Invalid argument supplied for foreach() hosting.ip.inc:39 [warning]
[06:30:26]<anarcat>Creating default object from empty value hosting_platform.module:394 [warning]
[06:30:53]<Deciphered>You've definitely got hosting/sites/hosting_site.views_default.inc?
[06:31:34]<Deciphered>I'll do a fresh install in a second and see what I get, just testing the upgrade path
[06:32:59]<anarcat>it's modules/hosting/site/hosting_site.views_default.inc
[06:33:01]<anarcat>but yeah
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[06:35:08]<Deciphered>yeah, that. K, starting a fresh install now
[06:35:32]<anarcat>i feel special
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[06:40:47]<Deciphered>anarcat: Is yours from a fresh install or an upgrade?
[06:42:00]<anarcat>fresh
[06:48:08]<anarcat>http://aegir.angela.anarcat.ath.cx/hosting/platforms gives me: ( ! ) Fatal error: Class 'views_handler_field_hosting_site_status' not found in /home/anarcat/src/hostmaster/modules/hosting/platform/views_handler_field_hosting_platform_status.inc on line 8
[06:48:21]<anarcat>Deciphered: ^
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[06:49:49]<anarcat>ergonlogic: btw i met with troy, which is having problems with nginx + clusters + ssl, he saiud he talked to you about it, is that familiar?
[06:50:24]<ergonlogic>anarcat: that'd be trrroy, I guess
[06:50:35]<ergonlogic>I'd just encouraged him to post a support request, iirc
[06:50:37]<anarcat>trrroy: hi! :)
[06:50:42]<anarcat>i did the same
[06:50:56]<anarcat>i think i'll work with him at the code sprint on friday, because his use case is the same as ours, basically
[06:52:31]<Deciphered>Grr, fresh install not going so well, but in relation to my dev environment. In a BoF shortly, so will have to wait till after
[06:52:39]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: ugh, there doesn't look like there's a way to alter an existing block in D6
[06:53:21]<Deciphered>ergonlogic: Yeah, didn't think so. Really Context would be the best way to do it, but at the least it definetely does need something put into hook_install to place the blocks, something I overlooked
[06:53:27]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: so we'll probably have to copy the method you used in the update hook into the install hook too
[06:53:37]<ergonlogic>right
[06:54:11]<Deciphered>Gunna make a move, back online later
[06:54:15]<ergonlogic>Deciphered: well, D7 has more block hooks, and Views in D7 supports block visibility
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[06:57:09]<ergonlogic>anarcat: any luck on your end?
[06:57:25]<anarcat>no, i'm totally at a loss
[06:57:42]<anarcat>i'm really confused as to how it's possible that the view isn't loaded
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[07:08:23]<trrroy>anarcat: ergonlogic: hi!
[07:08:29]<anarcat>hey trrroy !
[07:08:37]<anarcat>trrroy: did you end up submitting those issues?
[07:08:49]<trrroy>anarcat: I finally submitted my issues with patches
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[07:08:55]<anarcat>trrroy: you're awesome!
[07:09:11]<trrroy>;) hopefully
[07:09:58]<trrroy>anarcat: I'm heading to another session but I'll see you in the bof in a little while
[07:10:09]<anarcat>which session?
[07:10:12]<anarcat>i am looking for one
[07:10:19]<anarcat>there's the chef one... but it's beginner...
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[07:11:04]<trrroy>trying to decide between that and rest. both beginner though
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[07:11:27]<anarcat>o the rest one
[07:11:58]<trrroy>I think that's the one
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[07:23:57]<Ogredude>do the rest one
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[07:24:36]<trrroy>I think that's the one
[07:24:40]<trrroy>~
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[07:27:46]<benjf>anyone from omega8.cc at drupalcon? if so, I'd love to chat :)
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[07:28:37]<anarcat>whoa wtf version = "6.x-2.11"
[07:28:48]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i think i had a really old views version
[07:29:02]<anarcat>damn
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[07:46:51]<ergonlogic>anarcat: oh?
[07:46:59]<ergonlogic>anarcat: has that fixed anything?
[07:47:08]<ergonlogic>I think we depend on Views 3
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[07:51:00]<ergonlogic>yep, Views3, and VBO requires a patch
[07:52:43]<ergonlogic>anarcat: ChanServ appears to have just de-op'd helmo...
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[07:53:08]<ergonlogic>which I then granted him again, having missed your update to the issue I filed earlier
[07:53:16]<ergonlogic>sorry if I messed something up there...
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[07:53:50]<anarcat>yeah, i had views 2
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[07:54:13]<ergonlogic>right, I'm just catching up on the issue updates :)
[07:54:23]<ergonlogic>glad to see it works
[07:54:39]<ergonlogic>that had started to worry me there
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[08:00:41]<anarcat>yeah that was crazy stupid
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[08:00:52]<anarcat>i *think* that's the coder lounge anyways
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[08:08:26]<anarcat>ergonlogic: so i talked to the drush make guy - i was wondering if the "use distributions as core" was the only thing missing?
[08:08:48]<anarcat>ergonlogic: also, it would be awesome if we could release alpha2 now :)
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[08:13:16]<anarcat>seems like the 2.x deb package install is failing http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/D%20aegir%206.x-2.x%20deb%20install/162/c...
[08:15:19]<anarcat>[127.0.0.1:2200] out: DRUSH_BACKEND:{"error":"DRUSH_NOT_COMPLETED","message":"Drush command terminated abnormally due to an unrecoverable error.\nError: Call to undefined function hosting_get_queues() in \/var\/aegir\/hostmaster-6.x-2.x\/profiles\/hostmaster\/modules\/hosting\/hosting.drush.inc, line 17","packet":"set_error"}
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[08:22:45]<anarcat>i'm uploading the debian package to the debian archive
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[09:04:20]<Ogredude>okay, it is officially time for me to figure out a dev/stage/prod workflow
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[09:07:51]<Ogredude>advice and opinions are welcome. I am beginning the google trawl now.
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[09:40:40]<Deciphered>Ogredude: Myself (and Realityloop the company/person) use a slightly modified version of Mig5s makefile based method, he's blogged about it on mig5.net
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[09:42:51]<Deciphered>Ogredude: http://community.aegirproject.org/article-archive/drupal-deployments-wor...
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[09:44:21]<Ogredude>DecipheredAFK: thanks!
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