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[10:06:12]<omega8cc>hefring: tell anarcat: unix socket for php-fpm is now supported automatically: http://drupal.org/node/1635622#comment-7470192
[10:06:12]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1635622 => default nginx config doesn't talk to the default php-fpm config in Debian Wheezy and sid [#1635622] => Provision, HTTP Service, normal, fixed, 17 comments, 1 IRC mention
[10:06:12]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when anarcat is around.
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[10:09:08]<hefring>Git => Issue #1635622 by anarcat - Default nginx config doesn't talk to the default php... => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/2d4a4c972911bf6c1...
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[10:39:35]<realityloop>omega8cc: has Debian update to 7 been tested via boa upgrade script?
[10:40:55]<omega8cc>realityloop: not sure what you mean or suggest?
[10:41:33]<realityloop>omega8cc: upgrading to Wheezy from squeeze
[10:44:37]<omega8cc>hmm, so do your suggest that we do releases without testing? or you didn't read the 2.0.9 changelog?
[10:45:44]<omega8cc>we have tested this probably 25+ times
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[10:48:11]<omega8cc>it is always possible the some newer updates will change something and we will need to adjust some little bits, as we did a few times for lenny to squeeze automated upgrade, but otherwise it should just work
[10:48:34]<realityloop>omega8cc: great, thanks
[10:52:49]<omega8cc>np
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[10:55:50]<Deciphered>anarcat/omega8cc: http://drupal.org/node/2006550. realityloop might be able to discuss with you, I'm on site with a client. But I assure you in my case it is necessary. Ideally there'd still be a way to modify the listener by some form of configuration. Hardcoding *:80 should work, but it's still forced logic.
[10:55:52]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/2006550 => Nginx vhosts config prevents access on localhost setups. [#2006550] => Provision, HTTP Service, normal, needs review, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[11:00:13]<realityloop>anarcat / omega8cc: i believe it's to handle both IPv6 and IPv4 traffic
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[11:28:46]<mrconnerton>Exhibit Type *
[11:28:50]<mrconnerton>whoops, not skype
[11:45:06]<omega8cc>Deciphered / realityloop: proposed workaround may introduce serious issues on other systems with unknown older Nginx versions, so we can't just accept it - see my comment: http://drupal.org/node/2006550#comment-7470480 - we need to know more about the issue, to determine what is the real source of the problem on your OS X setup.
[11:45:08]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/2006550 => Nginx vhosts config prevents access on localhost under OS X [#2006550] => Provision, HTTP Service, normal, postponed (maintainer needs more info), 9 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[11:47:31]<omega8cc>Deciphered / realityloop: it is also possible that it is related to the Nginx version you are using, so more debug info will help
[11:48:04]<realityloop>omega8cc: nginx version: nginx/1.2.1
[11:48:28]<realityloop>omega8cc: though Deciphered will be using a newer version most likley
[11:48:34]<realityloop>but it happened to both of us
[11:51:36]<omega8cc>realityloop: ok, please follow up with more debug details in the issue (there is in fact no problem description at all - I mean, "doesn't work" is not a description we need), I will take a look later today, it is almost 4am here
[11:52:49]<realityloop>omega8cc: sure, we'll try and add any info we can think of
[11:53:45]<omega8cc>thanks, maybe we will need to introduce a test to make this workaround os x specific, to not affect other systems
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[00:04:02]<sanguisdex>is there a way to have nginx vhosts independent of aegir on the same machine if I wanted to manually create the files?
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[00:11:28]<omega8cc>sanguisdex: you could simply add your own non-Aegir vhosts in the /etc/nginx/sites-enabled
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[00:12:10]<sanguisdex>omega8cc: awesome thanks
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[00:12:15]<omega8cc>np
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[00:40:32]* ergonlogic just posted a possible approach to WordPress support in Aegir: http://drupal.org/node/1044692#comment-7473232... Feedback welcome :)
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[00:43:35]<jonpugh>ooooh
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[00:53:31]<gboudrias> ergonlogic: Awesome!
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[01:16:52]<elfenixtorres>ergonlogic: is Symfony already supported?
[01:17:13]* elfenixtorres thinks Symfony, especially regarding the current and future integration in Drupal, is even more appropriate
[01:17:49]<ergonlogic>elfenixtorres: Symfony isn't an application
[01:17:57]<elfenixtorres>ergonlogic: you can make it one ;)
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[01:18:08]<ergonlogic>you can build one atop it
[01:18:30]<elfenixtorres>would be easy to deploy something according to a "makefile"
[01:18:34]<elfenixtorres>a profile, if you want
[01:19:21]<ergonlogic>it'd probably have to be evaluated on a per application basis
[01:19:32]<elfenixtorres>it would make aegir a bit more complex, that's true
[01:19:41]<elfenixtorres>ah well
[01:19:50]<elfenixtorres>jenkins etcetera would be more appropriate I presume
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[01:20:33]<ergonlogic>WordPress is pretty comparable to Drupal in a lot of ways
[01:20:47]<ergonlogic>but would still show us where we're assuming drupalisms in Aegir
[01:21:00]<ergonlogic>it'd be a step in the right direction
[01:21:22]<ergonlogic>other applications should becone easier, as we figure out the bits that make sense to abstract
[01:21:32]<ergonlogic>s/becone/become
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[01:45:52]<jonpugh>ergonlogic: I've been wanting to figure out a way to just create a virtualhost file, and/or a database all by itself
[01:46:19]<jonpugh>with those two things, you'd have the ability to deploy almost any application you want
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[01:47:10]<jonpugh>if we abstracted those things, then just made drupal something to do after we have Vhost+DB... lots of possibilities open up
[01:47:26]<ergonlogic>jonpugh: yep, I'd submitted feature requests for that
[01:47:39]<jonpugh>oh, nice
[01:47:42]<jonpugh>didn't know :)
[01:48:16]<ergonlogic>here's one: http://drupal.org/node/1132532
[01:48:18]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1132532 => Support static HTML sites [#1132532] => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, minor, postponed, 3 comments, 1 IRC mention
[01:49:26]<ergonlogic>here's the other: http://drupal.org/node/1132512
[01:49:27]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1132512 => Create empty MySQL databases [#1132512] => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, minor, closed (won't fix), 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[01:59:15]<ergonlogic>jonpugh: I re-opened the latter, and updated the description
[01:59:49]<ergonlogic>I'd appreciate your input on one or both
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[02:06:03]<sanguisdex>omega8cc: so the only way I could get non aegir based vhost to work with nginx after installing aegir was to remove the aegir.conf symlink. did I just find a bug?
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[02:27:29]<jonpugh>ergonlogic: very cool
[02:27:58]<jonpugh>sanguisdex: you should be able to put extra vhost files in ~/config/server_master/nginx/vhost/
[02:28:07]<jonpugh>anything in those folders is included
[02:28:15]<jonpugh>i think, anyway... it works that way for apache
[02:28:39]<sanguisdex>jonpugh: I tried that as well there was some odd overrideing happinging
[02:28:45]<sanguisdex>I will figure out and submit patch
[02:29:32]<omega8cc>sanguisdex: no, you should never remove that symlink, or you will just break Aegir completely
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[02:29:53]<sanguisdex>omega8cc: I know, the othervhosts are my premarey concern atm
[02:31:56]<omega8cc>sanguisdex: Aegir doesn't care about other vhosts, and we do this in BOA to support Chive, local HTTPS proxy etc, it just works, and you can also put your custom vhosts in the Aegir specific vhosts directory - just avoid creating a site in Aegir with the same name, because then it will be overwritten
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[02:34:27]<omega8cc>sanguisdex: you can put your non-Aegir vhosts also in /var/aegir/config/server_master/nginx/vhost.d, just make sure they have all required directives in place and use unique site names
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[02:38:08]<omega8cc>sanguisdex: open an issue in the queue if you still have any problems with this
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[02:38:27]<sanguisdex>omega8cc: okay thanks, I did the above in my trouble shooting, and it did not work. I am using nginx.orgs 1.4.2 released on ubuntu 12.04, I will debug it latter and create and issue/patch
[02:38:42]<sanguisdex>IU am farly decent with nginx config
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[02:39:50]<omega8cc>so you shouldn't have issues with figuring this out :)
[02:40:17]<omega8cc>open an issue then
[02:40:24]<sanguisdex>will do
[02:40:28]<sanguisdex>will debug when I have time
[02:40:33]<sanguisdex>(don't have time atm(
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[03:06:36]* ergonlogic just installed a (almost Drupal-style) multi-site WordPress form the command line!
[03:06:50]<ergonlogic>for the curious: http://drupal.org/node/1044692#comment-7474018
[03:06:52]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1044692 => wordpress backend [#1044692] => Hostmaster (Aegir), Miscellaneous, major, needs review, 11 comments, 1 IRC mention
[03:08:50]<omega8cc>ergonlogic: nice! I will try the same with textpattern then!
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[03:10:09]<ergonlogic>FWIW, I emailed Automattic yesterday to enquire whether they'd be interested in sponsoring development of WP support in Aegir
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[03:11:01]<omega8cc>clever move!
[03:11:19]<ergonlogic>well, let's see if anyone bothers responding
[03:11:41]<omega8cc>no response is also a response
[03:12:44]<benjf>does WP have anything similar to drush? seems like that would be crucial
[03:12:56]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: I'm enthused by the idea, but I wouldn't know what to add to the issue.
[03:13:19]<gboudrias>Seems like you're onto something
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[03:14:36]<omega8cc>benjf: https://github.com/wp-cli/wp-cli
[03:14:46]<benjf>interesting, thanks
[03:15:50]<omega8cc>thunderstorm break here, bbl
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[03:16:07]<anarcat>here too!
[03:16:07]<hefring>anarcat: 17 hours 9 min ago <omega8cc> tell anarcat: unix socket for php-fpm is now supported automatically: http://drupal.org/node/1635622#comment-7470192
[03:16:16]<anarcat>cool
[03:18:19]* ergonlogic struggles to stop hacking on WP-in-Aegir, and get some real work done...
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[03:23:21]<tkimmel>anyone aware of projects using aegir for 'serial' drupal sites like this guy: http://scotthadfield.ca/category/topics/wedful ?
[03:25:46]<tkimmel>he's rolling out wedding sites on an aegir platform - would be interested in anyone else playing with commercial aegir applications
[03:25:52]<anarcat>we do
[03:26:38]<tkimmel>any google phrases other than 'koumbit' that I ought to check out?
[03:26:45]<tkimmel>:)
[03:26:50]<jonpugh>there was something called pagemaker or pagebuilder or something i saw in the case studies on d.o last year
[03:27:19]<jonpugh>pagebuild...
[03:27:20]<jonpugh>http://drupal.org/node/993166
[03:27:21]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/993166 => Pagebuild Case Study => 56 comments, 1 IRC mention
[03:27:25]<tkimmel>sweet thanks
[03:27:59]<tkimmel>kind of hard to figure out what to search for... 'aegir' isn't giving me a whole lot
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[03:28:09]<anarcat>well it's unclear what you're looking for
[03:28:16]<anarcat>you want to spin up many similar sites?
[03:28:36]<anarcat>it's kind of out of the box with aegir: you basically need to build a drupal "distribution" (and install profile and makefile, basically) and you're good to go
[03:29:26]<tkimmel>yeah, I'm working on a project where we're doing that - not having any big problems (aegir works great), just sort of looking for more inspiration
[03:30:00]<tkimmel>we're lazy, so we just clone a template site at the moment ;)
[03:30:11]<anarcat>hehe
[03:30:46]<tkimmel>great BoF @ drupalcon by the way, you guys blew my mind
[03:31:03]<jonpugh>yeah that was a good time
[03:31:46]<anarcat>thanks :)
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[03:46:31]<mgann>Trying to install aegir for the first time on rhel. At the point to install drush. How to do you get away from the permissions problems with doing it as the aegir user? Getting Cannot install, php_dir for channel "pear.drush.org" is not writeable by the current user. Tried setting bin_dir, cache_dir, and php_dir in pear config to the aegir user directory, but that doesn't seem to help. Thoughts?
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[03:57:01]<jonpugh>mgann: have you got drush installed already but cannot call $ drush?
[03:57:17]<mgann>no, just trying to install drush from the aegir user
[03:57:28]<jonpugh>you can't, you have to sudo to install drush
[03:57:43]<jonpugh>then you use the aegir user to run all drush commands
[03:58:25]<jonpugh>but only once you have everything installed
[03:58:30]<mgann>that makes more sense. the instructions say otherwise…so thanks :-)
[03:58:41]<jonpugh>where? if its not clear we could fix them
[03:59:24]<mgann>Step 4 - "Now become the aegir user." Step 5 - install drush via pear
[03:59:37]<jonpugh>huh
[04:00:04]<jonpugh>that is confusing
[04:00:16]<mgann>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/389
[04:01:01]<jonpugh>yeah, that is wrong
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[04:01:37]<jonpugh>I'll fix that
[04:01:52]<mgann>Awesome. Thanks. I'll keep trucking with that then!
[04:03:34]<jonpugh>I remember that from back in the day :D thanks for pointing it out!
[04:03:59]<jonpugh>All fixed up: http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/manual#Install_Aegir_compon...
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[05:41:01]<mgann>Getting a few errors: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() hosting.ip.inc:39 [warning], Invalid argument supplied for foreach() hosting.ip.inc:39 [warning]. The install 'finishes', but afterwards, getting: "Starting httpd: httpd: Syntax error on line 221 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/httpd/conf.d/aegir.conf: Permission denied." Not sure what the permissions are suppose to be for that, or if something else in the
[05:41:01]<mgann> install messed with it?
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[05:55:31]<mgann>i have part of it figured out. selinux was disabled, but for some reason it was still messing up with stuff.
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[07:26:17]<hefring>community => Site Installs fail suddenly => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/site-installs-fail-suddenly
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