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[00:56:49]<greggles>ergonlogic: hello
[00:56:55]<greggles>pm?
[00:57:02]<ergonlogic>greggles: sure
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[07:32:54]<Ogredude>ok I built a platform based on Drupal Commons. when I try to install a site on it, I get this error:
[07:32:59]<Ogredude>Running: /usr/share/drush/drush.php --client_email='aegir@projectzenonline.com' @test.projectzenonline.com provision-install-backend --backend 2>&1
[07:32:59]<Ogredude>The external command could not be executed due to an application error.
[07:33:15]<Ogredude>I don't know where to look for the output of that drush command to see what the error actually was
[07:33:31]<Ogredude>I don't know the commandline stuff I'd need to do to manually install a site, so I can see what drush is outputting.
[07:33:49]<Ogredude>And making a new site on a standard (non-Commons) platform works just fine.
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[07:43:32]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: you can just run that command yourself to see the output
[07:43:46]<ergonlogic>are you running on Aegir 2?
[07:43:47]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: yeah it complains that it can't login to mysql.
[07:44:05]<Ogredude>when the Install task is actually running, I can see a db and db user being created, then it disappears again
[07:44:16]<ergonlogic>you ran a provision-save first?
[07:44:25]<ergonlogic>yeah, that's part of the rollback procedure
[07:44:30]<Ogredude>I just ran the provision-install-backend
[07:44:45]<Ogredude>I don't think I'm on Aegir 2
[07:44:50]<ergonlogic>run each of the commands you see in the task log in sequence
[07:45:06]<Ogredude>oh ok
[07:45:09]<Ogredude>I'll try that
[07:45:49]<ergonlogic>well, we had a bug that was ignoring some backend output
[07:46:02]<ergonlogic>actually, it was a change in Drush, that we had to adapt to
[07:46:17]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: are you running on Barracuda or something?
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[07:47:49]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: nope
[07:47:59]<Ogredude>I couldn't figure out that whole Barracuda/Octopus thing
[07:48:06]<Ogredude>I installed from source on ubuntu 12.04
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[07:48:54]<ergonlogic>ok, so what branch are you on?
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[07:50:29]<Ogredude>well the platform directory is labeled hostmaster-6.x-1.9-1.1
[07:51:11]<ergonlogic>hmm, that's odd
[07:51:25]<ergonlogic>but it sure looks like Aegir 1
[07:51:33]<ergonlogic>what version of Drush?
[07:51:45]<Ogredude>4.5
[07:52:25]<ergonlogic>I don't know why you wouldn't bee sing the output from the backend, then...
[07:52:38]<ergonlogic>you can also try running the task with --debug
[07:52:49]<Ogredude>well at the end is the 2>&1
[07:53:01]<Ogredude>which is going to dump the output in the trash
[07:53:08]<ergonlogic>drush @hostmaster hosting-task <nid> --debug
[07:53:20]<ergonlogic>no, it should catch it
[07:53:38]<ergonlogic>it just won't usually output it to the terminal
[07:54:09]<ergonlogic>since we actually want it passed back to the front-end
[07:54:45]<ergonlogic>by running the task that way ^^^ you should get debug output in your front-end log
[07:55:05]<Ogredude>ok how do I do that, then?
[07:57:03]<ergonlogic>find your task nid
[07:57:26]<ergonlogic>usually you can see it by hovering over the 'view' button
[07:57:32]<ergonlogic>then do:
[07:57:39]<ergonlogic>drush @hostmaster hosting-task <nid> --debug
[08:02:07]<Ogredude>ah I see
[08:03:11]<Ogredude>alright I did that on the Install task, and, of course, got the PROVISION_SITE_INSTALLED error
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[08:12:13]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: that means that you have a setting.php file in place for that site
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[08:13:41]<Ogredude>oh so I should be able to leave sites/sitename.com alone and just rm sites/sitename.com/settings.php then fire the Install task again?
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[08:15:43]<Ogredude>apparently not. PROVISION_SITE_INSTALLED
[08:15:58]<Ogredude>the only way I know to get around that is to rm -rf sites/sitename.com and remove the site-alias
[08:16:12]<Ogredude>(and drop the db and db user if necessary)
[08:26:22]<ergonlogic>hmm, odd... the function is only looking for the settings.php: http://api.aegirproject.org/api/Provision/platform--provision_drupal.dru...
[08:26:59]<Ogredude>okay
[08:27:12]<Ogredude>I removed the site directory and the alias and fired the Install task again
[08:27:17]<Ogredude>this time I got to see what it was complaining about
[08:27:27]<Ogredude>it's a *($@& unpatched *&()#& bug in (*&$#() Commons
[08:28:17]<ergonlogic>ah, well then it's time to add the patch in your makefile :)
[08:28:18]<Ogredude>I haven't been able to figure out how to apply a patch in my makefile to a project that was brought in through an install profile
[08:28:46]<ergonlogic>hmm
[08:29:01]<ergonlogic>I don't know that you can in drush4
[08:29:21]<ergonlogic>but it should be feasible
[08:30:40]<Ogredude>well since the makefiles that come with Commons absolutely require drush5 anyway
[08:31:10]<Ogredude>But I've been having a really hard time finding any more than bare-bones documentation about how to operate drush make
[08:31:40]<ergonlogic>http://www.drush.org/docs/make.txt
[08:33:10]<ergonlogic>and http://drupalcode.org/project/drush.git/blob_plain/refs/heads/7.x-5.x:/e...
[08:34:55]<Ogredude>excellent, thanks
[08:37:32]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: you should be able to just drop your own patched version of a module in sites/all, and it should take precedence
[08:37:38]<ergonlogic>ref: https://api.drupal.org/api/drupal/includes%21common.inc/function/drupal_...
[08:37:52]<Ogredude>huh
[08:38:02]<Ogredude>I've had sites throw a FIT when there's modules in two places.
[08:38:19]<Ogredude>like if there's the same module in sites/all/modules and sites/sitename/modules
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[08:39:51]<ergonlogic>some modules have problems with that, true
[08:41:39]<ergonlogic>https://drupal.org/project/registry_rebuild may help
[08:43:52]<ergonlogic>https://drupal.org/project/hosting_tasks_extra will allow you to run it from the frontend
[08:44:28]<Ogredude>hrmm
[08:44:37]<Ogredude>I like the idea of being able to clear cache from hostmaster too
[08:45:31]<ergonlogic>The 2.x branch even allows you to clear the drush cache from the front-end, but it's only compatible with Aegir2
[08:45:57]<Ogredude>is Aegir2 ready for production use?
[08:46:21]<ergonlogic>it's pretty close
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[08:46:31]<Ogredude>looking forward to it, then
[08:46:42]<ergonlogic>We'll be releasing a 3rd beta, or possibly a first RC soon
[08:46:45]<Ogredude>as far as I can tell, I'm on 1.9
[08:47:40]<ergonlogic>I'm really looking forward to getting 2.0 out the door, so we can re-focus on Aegir 7.x-3.x
[08:47:58]<Ogredude>that's the one to be built in d7 or d8, yes?
[08:48:12]<ergonlogic>just a port to d7
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[08:48:19]<ergonlogic>I had it running a few months ago
[08:48:27]<ergonlogic>but I expect we've broken it since
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[08:48:48]<Ogredude>okay now that I've patched commons_notify so it's no longer throwing undefined function errors every time a bootstrap happens...
[08:49:29]<Ogredude>also I must have done something wrong earlier because removing settings.php this time round prevented the Install task from giving PROVISION_SITE_INSTALLED
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[08:52:47]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: okay thanks for helping me get going there
[08:53:14]<ergonlogic>no problem :)
[08:53:16]<Ogredude>now I know how to do everything from the commandline so I can see the output next time I run into trouble
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[08:54:21]<Ogredude>So far, Aegir is fantastic. And 80% of the time, it works every time.
[08:54:38]<Ogredude>and each time it fails, I gain a new tool with which to bend it to my whim
[08:55:50]<ergonlogic>well, we keep trying to make it better
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