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[22:51:56]<b0x>hi, whats the easiest way to backup a aegir site so that it can be redeployed on another environment (ie, cpanel)?
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[23:56:08]<hefring>community => Easy Wildcard SSL Setup => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/easy-wildcard-ssl-setup
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[03:08:15]<stieglitz>The automatic install looked like it was working so well until I got to apt-get install aegir on a fresh 12.04 LTS and got : Depends: aegir-provision (>= 1.10+246.efcd0a3) but it is not going to be installed
[03:08:17]<stieglitz> Depends: aegir-hostmaster (>= 1.10+246.efcd0a3) but it is not going to be installed
[03:08:18]<stieglitz>E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken package
[03:08:54]<stieglitz>I'm guessing it is something simple I am missing. Can anybody help me?
[03:12:06]<stieglitz>I have searched for the answer and shall continue to search but any help would be greatly appreciated
[03:16:14]<Rob_C>You need to install the old drush version first, make sure it's not installed, also uninstall all aegir packages, then install drush, check the aegir manual (if you didn't already).
[03:20:49]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: Rob is correct, it's listed in the 1.10 release notes, I believe
[03:21:20]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: you may want to consider installing Aegir2 instead, as it's currently at RC2
[03:21:32]<stieglitz>Hey thank you so much for the quick response
[03:22:13]<stieglitz>ergonlogic: Rob_C: I will try that
[03:22:15]<Rob_C>your welcome :)
[03:22:21]<ergonlogic>sure :)
[03:22:55]<Rob_C>but already rc2, ergonlogic AWESOME!
[03:23:05]<Rob_C>how about the upgrade path ergonlogic?
[03:23:09]<stieglitz>ergonlogic: I was hoping you might say that :-) Is it stable....ish ;-)
[03:23:20]<Rob_C>rc = release candidate stieglitz
[03:23:27]<Rob_C>so that's very close to an 1.0
[03:23:30]<Rob_C>euuh
[03:23:31]<Rob_C>20
[03:23:33]<Rob_C>:/
[03:23:35]<Rob_C>2.0
[03:23:57]<ergonlogic>well, that's the main thing left to test extensively, basically
[03:24:01]<Rob_C>whatever it is (i really should read up on the current stuff i know)
[03:24:04]<stieglitz>I am starting from scratch pretty much. Does 2.0 install easy....ish?
[03:24:11]<ergonlogic>I've tested it locally, and it worked fine
[03:24:26]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: yes
[03:24:35]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: installs easy, and is pretty stable
[03:25:06]<ergonlogic>we need broader testing in real-world usage though
[03:25:12]<stieglitz>:-) and testers never hurt either ;-) looks like I'll try that
[03:25:18]<stieglitz>ha yeah
[03:25:20]<ergonlogic>since our automated testing is still somewhat limieted
[03:25:34]<Rob_C>o i wanna test it ergonlogic, it's just, funds, time, etc, etc (just started at a new job too)
[03:25:53]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: let us know what you find
[03:26:23]<ergonlogic>Rob_C: no worries :)
[03:27:23]<ergonlogic>fwiw, a lot of the recent changes are ui enhancements
[03:27:29]<stieglitz>so at this point I am on a new 12.04 LTS and ran the above ....would it be easier just to rebuild the linode or to uninstall
[03:27:34]<Rob_C>i'm now reading https://drupal.org/node/1261030 i'm interested in this for D7 from day -1, but when i have some more time, i'll try to test it on my vps ergonlogic :) and thanks (also for all the great work, wish i could help some more)
[03:27:38]<ergonlogic>so it shouldn't upset stability too much
[03:28:21]<stieglitz>++ on the UI enhancements though VERY good to begin with
[03:28:47]<ergonlogic>Rob_C: funny you mention that... I just merged all the latest rc2 code into 7.x-3.x, and I've got it installing, at least
[03:29:19]<ergonlogic>that's where I'm refocusing my efforts... apart from debugging aegir2, obviously
[03:29:49]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: you can just uninstall
[03:30:06]<stieglitz>Ok thank you
[03:30:06]<Rob_C>Oeh, sounds very very interesting ergonlogic :D
[03:30:33]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: the Aegir 2.0-rc2 package is called 'aegir2'
[03:30:34]<ergonlogic>btw
[03:30:45]<ergonlogic>and it's available in the 'stable' repo on debian.aegirproject.org
[03:31:16]<stieglitz>ok
[03:31:36]<ergonlogic>Rob_C: I really need to update aegir-up with stable aegir2 and dev aegir3 blueprints...
[03:33:01]<stieglitz>can i ask a dumb question :-/ how do I uninstall ? I'm a command line newb.... or do you mean uninstall drush?
[03:33:13]<Rob_C>Guess you guys didn't package 7.x yet ergonlogic. Love to take a look at it. Hmmm, soulds like a nice week of work. (aegir-up) (guess your also quite busy)
[03:33:27]<Rob_C>dump questions don't exist :)
[03:33:41]<stieglitz>but dumb ones do ;-)
[03:33:49]<Rob_C>stieglitz see http://community.aegirproject.org/uninstalling
[03:33:54]<Rob_C>(and use google)
[03:34:08]<Rob_C>"uninstall aegir" = result nr1 (for me)
[03:34:15]<stieglitz>Awesome thank you yeah G is my best friend
[03:35:11]<stieglitz>I do find it is sometimes hard to glean the most current info. You guys always help :-)
[03:35:29]<Rob_C>So much is available on stackoverload, drupal.org, etc, etc.
[03:35:38]<Rob_C>Always take note of the date.
[03:36:45]<stieglitz>thanks Rob_C: I really hate to come in asking a question I should be able to find myself. I appreciate both of your time
[03:37:14]<Rob_C>Hey, that's one of the reasons we'r here ;-)
[03:38:09]<stieglitz>Okay so Yeah I have read that and done this but this is a fresh server with no /var/aegir
[03:38:35]<Rob_C>Then you only need to uninstall drush
[03:38:40]<Rob_C>apt-get remove --purge drush
[03:39:05]<stieglitz>fwiw I have done quite a few installs some have worked better than others :-)
[03:39:24]<stieglitz>excellent Rob_C:
[03:40:26]<stieglitz>Rob_C: so that gave me 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 37 not upgraded.
[03:40:37]<Rob_C>then you don't have it installed
[03:40:38]<Rob_C>ok
[03:41:45]<Rob_C>try to uninstall the remaining aegir packages, if any are installed, then try to install aegir2.
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[03:44:14]<stieglitz>Rob_C: I guess the only question i have is should my sources list be http://debian.aegirproject.org stable main ?
[03:47:19]<Rob_C>stieglitz, yup, + the default debian's.
[03:47:29]<stieglitz>ahh Easy! apt-get install drush apt-get install aegir2 DONE :-)
[03:48:10]<stieglitz>Rob_C: Thanks again I think I'm GTG
[03:48:12]<Rob_C>Nice :-)
[03:48:32]<Rob_C>Ok, good luck stieglitz, ttyl.
[03:53:28]<stieglitz>Rob_C++
[03:57:31]<stieglitz>Rob_C:++
[03:57:54]<stieglitz>trying to give you Karma but I'm not doing it right am I?
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[04:00:07]<stieglitz>Anybody work with getting Commerce Kickstart as a platform?
[04:02:07]<Rob_C>stieglitz, i don't even think we have a bot here that registers karma, but not sure.
[04:02:59]<Rob_C>stieglitz, i develop all my commerce sites from scratch, like that a bit more. (got some existing sites from customers i installed it on)
[04:05:34]<stieglitz>Rob_C: It's a big issue due to the nature of the demo-site installation. I know there has been talk about a work around but that is all I know
[04:06:34]<stieglitz>I should probably just build one from scratch but Kickstart is so convenient
[04:09:05]<ergonlogic>hefring: Rob_C++
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[04:13:15]<ergonlogic>hefring: karma Rob_C
[04:13:15]<hefring>Rob_C has karma of 3.
[04:13:31]<ergonlogic>I'm not sure if it isn't registering the karma anymore though
[04:13:49]<ergonlogic>it's certainly isn't providing any feedback, if it is
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[04:14:51]<Rob_C>check my karma on #drupal, it's a bit more already :) (to bad they are not linked, druplicon and hefring)
[04:16:32]<stieglitz>:-) Rob_C: I got this error dpkg: error processing aegir-hostmaster2 (--configure):
[04:16:33]<stieglitz> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:16:35]<stieglitz>E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:18:18]<stieglitz>I left the "URL of the hostmaster frontend" blank so I should find the front end at swingon.in
[04:18:46]<stieglitz>but swingon.in just "it works"
[04:20:49]<stieglitz>This was after running the apt-get install aegir2
[04:21:59]<stieglitz>Uh nevermind sorry I think I need to continue on :-/
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[04:46:14]<stieglitz>Well something went wrong. Now I cant run the hostmaster-uninstall script
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[05:30:33]<anarcat>ergonlogic: ping
[05:30:44]<ergonlogic>anarcat: pong
[05:30:48]<anarcat> 1.10+246.efcd0a3 0
[05:30:49]<anarcat> 500 http://debian.aegirproject.org/ stable/main amd64 Packages
[05:30:51]<anarcat>on ceres
[05:30:57]<anarcat>for some reason, the stable repo has some weird 1.10 version
[05:31:08]<ergonlogic>hmm
[05:31:24]<anarcat>it's the same version as testing
[05:31:34]<anarcat>i think it's new from today
[05:31:35]<ergonlogic>could be that it got pulled along with rc2
[05:31:42]<anarcat>because formation.k.n wasn't upgraded
[05:31:44]<anarcat>crap
[05:31:47]<ergonlogic>from today?
[05:31:51]<anarcat>i am guessing
[05:32:02]<ergonlogic>I haven't touched anything on ci today
[05:32:17]<ergonlogic>ok, what do we do?
[05:32:19]<anarcat>shit
[05:32:22]<anarcat>aegirphp52 was upgraded
[05:32:31]<anarcat>sigh
[05:32:40]<anarcat>well, first off, we need to figure out what that package is
[05:32:52]<anarcat>second, if it's wrong, we need to kick it out of there
[05:32:53]<ergonlogic>I suspect one of the ci-generated ones
[05:33:01]<anarcat>of course, but what changed?
[05:33:05]<anarcat>oh i know, i just pushed a commit
[05:33:12]<ergonlogic>since there haven't been any changes to the code, it should be the same inside, I believe
[05:33:21]<ergonlogic>oh
[05:33:31]<ergonlogic>right, there was the ssl thing
[05:33:54]<anarcat>so i think it's safe to leave that package there
[05:33:59]<anarcat>i'll update the relnotes
[05:34:07]<anarcat>but we need to figure out how it trickled down into stable
[05:34:21]<ergonlogic>we could rebuild the package from the tag, and re-upload
[05:34:30]<ergonlogic>then purge the newer one(s)
[05:34:37]<anarcat>i don't think it's worth it
[05:34:49]<anarcat>a 'known issue' is enough
[05:35:00]<ergonlogic>I think I did 'reprepro reprepro pull stable'
[05:35:05]<anarcat>ok, you shouldn't do that
[05:35:09]<ergonlogic>which is what's in the docs, iirc
[05:35:13]<anarcat>that pulls *all* packages from stable
[05:35:17]<anarcat>er
[05:35:29]<anarcat>to stable (from whatever is configured, in this case probably testing)
[05:35:31]<ergonlogic>i guess I should specify the release, or someting?
[05:35:36]<anarcat>no
[05:35:46]<anarcat>you need to explicitely state the package, and use cp instead of pull
[05:36:16]<anarcat>docs fail again :)
[05:37:05]<ergonlogic>ok, I had updated the docs to this: http://community.aegirproject.org/debian#Building_a_package_for_a_new_re...
[05:37:19]<ergonlogic>based on my reading of this: https://wiki.koumbit.net/RepreproConfiguration
[05:37:52]<anarcat>ergonlogic: does this make sense? http://community.aegirproject.org/1.10#Known_issues
[05:37:56]<anarcat>(last paragraph)
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[05:38:18]<anarcat>ergonlogic: you did? i still see pull...
[05:38:41]<anarcat>let me update that for you
[05:38:49]<ergonlogic>anarcat: that's what I mean, I had updated it *to* that
[05:38:55]<ergonlogic>thanks
[05:38:57]<anarcat>ooh
[05:38:59]<anarcat>sorry
[05:39:04]<anarcat>missed the verb tense there :)
[05:39:34]<ergonlogic>reprepro docs are kinda sparse
[05:39:49]<ergonlogic>in general, I mean
[05:40:18]<ergonlogic>everything online seems really old, like circa 2005
[05:40:49]<ergonlogic>and seems more focused on mirriring the official repos, than publishing your own packages
[05:40:57]<ergonlogic>at least, as far as I could see
[05:41:19]<anarcat>yup
[05:41:25]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/543/revisions/view/5142/5150
[05:41:52]<anarcat>our own docs are a bit messy, i had to dig all the way down to https://wiki.koumbit.net/JenkinsGuide#Migrating_a_package_down_into_stable
[05:43:38]<anarcat>ergonlogic: do note: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/2731/revisions/view/5149/5151
[05:43:46]<anarcat>maybe we should make a 1.10 after all... :/
[05:43:48]<anarcat>er
[05:43:49]<anarcat>1.11
[05:43:52]<ergonlogic>ok, so the docs already stated 'pull'... I had just added the 'pull testing' part
[05:44:22]<ergonlogic>hmm, yep
[05:44:22]<anarcat>upgrading our main cluster to 1.10+246.efcd0a3
[05:44:55]<ergonlogic>I need to get ready for physio
[05:45:09]<ergonlogic>but I can work on a 1.11 release tonight or tomorrow
[05:46:30]<ergonlogic>anarcat: it might be worthwhile double checking that the jenkins job does a copy and not a pull...
[05:47:21]<ergonlogic>anarcat: yep, it's a pull: http://ci.aegirproject.org/view/Release%20scripts/job/R%20repo%20pull/co...
[05:48:12]<ergonlogic>anarcat: so that would overwrite RC2 also, if a newer dev build had been uploaded, right?
[05:49:41]<ergonlogic>anarcat: do we keep the jenkins jobs under git? like the xml itself?
[05:50:11]<ergonlogic>I assume such a thing is possible
[05:51:42]<anarcat>i don't think 1.11 is really important
[05:52:05]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i believe the debian project does something like that for their jenkins jobs
[05:52:13]<anarcat>as for the job itself, we should just kill it, imho
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[05:52:27]<anarcat>i don't like the idea of automatically signed packages, i prefer to upload the myself
[05:52:29]<anarcat>but hey.. :)
[05:52:31]<anarcat>whatever
[05:52:32]<ergonlogic>well, it's one of those double confirm ones
[05:53:13]<ergonlogic>it's part of our stable release workflow now, though
[05:53:20]<ergonlogic>with the 'pull stable'
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[05:53:32]<ergonlogic>I hesitate to change any of that myself
[05:53:56]<anarcat>don't hesitate :)
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[06:07:36]<ergonlogic>anarcat: if you come across any documentation on keeping jenkins jobs under vcs, let me know, pls
[06:07:57]<ergonlogic>all I keep finding is stuff about the git plugin, obviously
[06:08:06]<anarcat>i will
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[06:32:19]<anarcat>wow
[06:32:28]<anarcat>drush @hostmaster status just freezes with 100% CPU here
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[06:32:34]<anarcat> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
[06:32:34]<anarcat>30757 aegir 20 0 294m 88m 9.8m R 100 0.5 3:01.29 php
[06:32:36]<anarcat>fun
[06:35:04]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i got pointed at https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/JobConfigHistory+Plugin on #debian-devel, it's not exactly what you want, but close
[06:36:22]<anarcat>ergonlogic: https://github.com/openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder is what i was thinking of
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[06:43:55]<stieglitz>any idea why I would be getting this message dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of aegir2: aegir2 depends on aegir-hostmaster2 (>= 2.0~rc2); however: Package aegir-hostmaster2 is not configured yet.
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[06:47:35]<anarcat>yes, a bunch :)
[06:47:47]<anarcat>probably because you are missing the right drush release?
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[07:04:25]<stieglitz>ahh ok I will look into that
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[07:17:21]<stieglitz>but doesn't the automatic install get the right version of Drush? 6.10 right? If not I need to do a manual install of 2.0 rc2 ?
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[07:31:12]<stieglitz>So It looks like I need to apply the patch to Drush to be able to get RC2 to work.? Thanks again and I apologize for the bother.
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