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| [11:00:10] | <theohawse> | Hey guys I'm having some really messed up bugs, half my sites redirect to http://0.0.0.1 in chrome and http://1 in firefox what have I done wrong???? |
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| [11:07:30] | <theohawse> | http://blurredvisionmusic.com doesn't work but http://yaletownlantipasto.com does! they are both on the same platform... |
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| [11:13:02] | <theohawse> | creating a new domain alias does fix the issue, but not for the old alias |
| [11:20:25] | <daniel-san> | I am trying to use the directions from Omega8 to create a symlink from sites/site.com/files to a folder in the static folder. I can create the symlink, but files do not get saved to the static/files-folder that is symlinked. Anyone have any experience in doing this? |
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| [11:22:33] | <theohawse> | daniel-san: soz I dunno, but always wanted to figure it out |
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| [11:26:23] | <ergonlogic> | daniel-san: ensure that permissions are correct |
| [11:27:19] | <ergonlogic> | but basically you just remove your site's files directory, then symlink from the static one |
| [11:29:43] | <theohawse> | more on my issue: I've recently upgraded from alpha1 drush and provision to rc2 versions, but havent upgraded the frontend yet but afraid to go further now that stuffs busted |
| [11:31:24] | <ergonlogic> | what's busted? |
| [11:31:51] | <ergonlogic> | you should keep provision and hosting synchronized |
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| [11:34:58] | <daniel-san> | oh, so I have to actually remove the sites/mysite.com/files folder? |
| [11:35:27] | <ergonlogic> | or at least move it out of the way |
| [11:35:39] | <ergonlogic> | otherwise it's where the symlink should be |
| [11:36:45] | <ergonlogic> | I'm not certain we're talking about the sam thing here... You do want to have your site's files not live under the site's directory, right? |
| [11:37:29] | <theohawse> | ergonlogic: some of my sites redirect to 0.0.0.1 and some still work its really wierd, new aliases added in the hosting work but the actual domains are busted |
| [11:38:24] | <ergonlogic> | that'd probably be because you didn't keep the front-end and back-end versions in sync |
| [11:39:50] | <theohawse> | ergonlogic: so I should try to do the upgrade.sh then? |
| [11:40:13] | <ergonlogic> | hostmaster-migrate, I believe |
| [11:40:27] | <ergonlogic> | you aren't using the .debs, I guess? |
| [11:41:31] | <theohawse> | nope "drush dl drush" and "drush dl --destination=/var/aegir/.drush provision-6.x-2.0-rc2" |
| [11:41:42] | <ergonlogic> | http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading/manual#Upgrading_the_frontend |
| [11:41:52] | <daniel-san> | correct. I have such a large files folder, that it kills aegis during a migrate |
| [11:42:13] | <daniel-san> | I would like to have users save files and have the site save to a folder outside of the site |
| [11:42:26] | <ergonlogic> | daniel-san: ok, so move the files directory to where you want it |
| [11:42:58] | <ergonlogic> | daniel-san: then 'ln -s where/you/moved/it/to where/you/moved/it/from |
| [11:43:12] | <ergonlogic> | that should be it |
| [11:43:23] | <daniel-san> | OOOOOHHHHHH. ok. |
| [11:43:32] | <ergonlogic> | you'll probably want to set up some backups too |
| [11:43:46] | <ergonlogic> | since these files won't be backed-up anymore |
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| [11:44:21] | <daniel-san> | I thought that I would create a new folder named something else and then make the symlink to the new folder I want to have the site save to |
| [11:44:36] | <daniel-san> | @ergonlogic good point about the backups |
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| [11:45:13] | <daniel-san> | now, is this the same kind of process if I were to use something like Rackspace cloud to save the files? |
| [11:45:20] | <ergonlogic> | from-to terminology is kinda counter-intuitive |
| [11:45:26] | <daniel-san> | yea |
| [11:45:29] | <ergonlogic> | but it helps to think of it like a copy |
| [11:45:39] | <daniel-san> | ok |
| [11:45:42] | <ergonlogic> | from the one that exists, to the one you want |
| [11:46:09] | <daniel-san> | Ok, I'm going to go test it out and see. thanks so much |
| [11:46:18] | <ergonlogic> | sure thing |
| [11:46:27] | <ergonlogic> | daniel-san: backup the site first |
| [11:46:44] | <daniel-san> | lol. yea. good thing it's on test dev sites |
| [11:46:51] | <ergonlogic> | that way you'll have at least one safe up-to-date backup before you start moving stuff around |
| [11:46:53] | <daniel-san> | to try this out first |
| [11:46:58] | <ergonlogic> | ok, good |
| [11:47:10] | <daniel-san> | gotta love aegir!! |
| [11:47:53] | <ergonlogic> | :) |
| [11:50:04] | <theohawse> | i'm waiting for linode to finish the snapshot before running drush hostmaster-migrate $AEGIR_DOMAIN $HOME/hostmaster-$AEGIR_VERSION |
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| [11:54:28] | <daniel-san> | @ergonlogic WOOO HOOOO!! it worked! |
| [11:54:32] | <daniel-san> | awesome |
| [11:56:40] | <ergonlogic> | daniel-san: nice :) |
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| [11:57:56] | <daniel-san> | thank you very much. I've been struggling with this concept for a bit, but I didn't realize that you actually had to remove the Files folder. That was the key. |
| [11:58:31] | <daniel-san> | I did a mv files to a new location outside of the platform and then created the symlink. |
| [11:58:39] | <daniel-san> | very cool |
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| [12:00:03] | <daniel-san> | now, if I set this up for the main site and do a migrate to an updated platform, should this all work ok? |
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| [12:01:49] | <ergonlogic> | yep |
| [12:02:17] | <ergonlogic> | daniel-san: basically, a migrate is just a backup->deploy->delete |
| [12:02:36] | <daniel-san> | right. very cool. |
| [12:02:40] | <ergonlogic> | in this case, the files dir won't get backed up |
| [12:02:48] | <ergonlogic> | hence why it should be faster |
| [12:03:02] | <ergonlogic> | the backup doesn't follow the symlink |
| [12:03:06] | <daniel-san> | of course. Also, a reason to have another backup strategy for those files |
| [12:03:23] | <ergonlogic> | another caveat, be careful when cloning |
| [12:03:33] | <daniel-san> | ok. why's that? |
| [12:03:56] | <ergonlogic> | if you clone the site, then the cloned files dir will be a symlink pointing to the same place |
| [12:04:26] | <theohawse> | crap, most of my sites are completely screwed now and I cant get into the aegir frontend anymore |
| [12:04:30] | <ergonlogic> | so, if you change you files on the clone, you're changing them on the original too |
| [12:04:55] | <daniel-san> | oh, ok. |
| [12:05:04] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: try re-verifying them |
| [12:05:06] | <daniel-san> | so, be aware of the symlink |
| [12:05:16] | <theohawse> | kk |
| [12:05:33] | <ergonlogic> | daniel-san: yeah, it isn't a perfect solution |
| [12:05:39] | <ergonlogic> | or it'd likely be default |
| [12:05:55] | <daniel-san> | well, it's awesome when you have a file folder that's gigs of space. lol |
| [12:06:06] | <daniel-san> | and you can't migrate |
| [12:06:11] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, there's work to make this more flexible, but it isn't the priority right now |
| [12:06:24] | <daniel-san> | yea, I was reading up on that as much as I could |
| [12:07:04] | <ergonlogic> | daniel-san: I had done some work on an issue about 'move files out of platforms' that would move the whole site |
| [12:07:19] | <ergonlogic> | and I had something working, but not really complete |
| [12:07:40] | <ergonlogic> | so it never got merged, and I'll have to re-factor it all for Aegir3 |
| [12:07:51] | <ergonlogic> | but we covered a lot of the groundwork |
| [12:08:00] | <daniel-san> | @ergonlogic ok. Well, it is complex to say the least. |
| [12:08:26] | <daniel-san> | thanks for all the work you and others are doing on the project. It's greatly appreciated by those of us that use it. |
| [12:08:47] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: you may have some invalid alias and/or db entries now, so there may be some work to get things back |
| [12:08:57] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: let me know if you need help |
| [12:09:29] | <daniel-san> | @ergonlogic just followed on twitter btw |
| [12:10:09] | <ergonlogic> | daniel-san: well, I've only recently really gottn involved in the dev itself |
| [12:11:22] | <theohawse> | I can get some sites to work, others do not, running drush provision-verify, are there other things to try? |
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| [12:12:06] | <daniel-san> | @ergonlogic I'm gonna head out. Gotta take care of family stuff. take care and thanks again. You have a been a tremendous help. |
| [12:13:57] | <ergonlogic> | well, check the site aliases for the proper IPs |
| [12:14:03] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: ^^^ |
| [12:14:23] | <theohawse> | where are the aliases again? |
| [12:14:45] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: /var/aegir/.drush/ |
| [12:14:52] | <theohawse> | kk |
| [12:15:05] | <ergonlogic> | anything like example.com.drushrc.php |
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| [12:16:08] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: maybe try hostmaster.drushrc.php first, and see if you can get the frontend back up |
| [12:16:21] | <ergonlogic> | from there, you can probably re-generate the rest |
| [12:18:52] | <theohawse> | is this correct?: http://pastebin.com/jJtGVAHf |
| [12:19:46] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: 'db_server' is usually '@server_localhost' |
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| [12:21:01] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: and you've redirected the IP address to the sit url, right? |
| [12:21:32] | <theohawse> | sure have, but now apache wont restart |
| [12:22:29] | <theohawse> | http://pastebin.com/hTdcCGH6 |
| [12:25:09] | <ergonlogic> | right, so that's probably one of the other sites' vhost interfering |
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| [12:25:10] | <theohawse> | i'm rebooting cuz some process might be stuck |
| [12:25:10] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: you could try moving then out of the way, an seeing if you can regenerate them |
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| [12:25:27] | <ergonlogic> | that's prob ably |
| [12:25:27] | <ergonlogic> | not it |
| [12:26:21] | <theohawse> | like move all of the alias files? |
| [12:26:50] | <ergonlogic> | the vhosts are in /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d, I believe< |
| [12:27:29] | <ergonlogic> | yes, move them somewhere that apache won't see them, then run 'provision-verify' on hostmaster |
| [12:28:27] | <ergonlogic> | if you can get the front-end working, you should be able to do the rest from there |
| [12:29:02] | <theohawse> | move the vhosts or the aliases im confused now.. half the sites are working, the other half are not |
| [12:29:40] | <ergonlogic> | well, we only need to move the vhost that's blocking apache from restarting |
| [12:29:54] | <ergonlogic> | but there may be more than one |
| [12:30:02] | <theohawse> | apache is restarting fine now that i rebooted the linode |
| [12:31:26] | <ergonlogic> | ok |
| [12:32:59] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: can you access the front-end |
| [12:33:05] | <ergonlogic> | ? |
| [12:33:17] | <theohawse> | oh thank god i just got back in, cleared all browser data, rebooted chrome and ran provision verify again on hostmaster |
| [12:34:13] | <theohawse> | setup a task to reverify all the sites now |
| [12:37:15] | <theohawse> | I believe the wiki page should be updated to include the steps after running drush hostmaster-migrate $AEGIR_DOMAIN $HOME/hostmaster-$AEGIR_VERSION |
| [12:38:00] | <theohawse> | if it mentioned to reboot the server, then run provision-verify on hostmaster, then clear browser caches, it would have save a lot of trouble for me |
| [12:40:32] | <theohawse> | looks like the only thing left to fix is the theme that somehow got borked here: http://yaletownlantipasto.com/ |
| [12:44:14] | <theohawse> | this new interface looks pretty swell with these new features and stuff, pretty excited |
| [12:44:34] | <theohawse> | have to wait to see if reverifying the site will fix it, about 10 min away |
| [12:44:59] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: none of that is usually required |
| [12:46:08] | <theohawse> | I did have an extra .drush.bak folder there, and a provision.bak folder somewhere else, that was probably the culprit, removed them during the upgrade |
| [12:46:45] | <theohawse> | google searching for "aegir 0.0.0.1" revealed no hints so had to turn to irc |
| [12:49:45] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: there was refactoring of ip handling recently |
| [12:50:21] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: so I suspect the backend got a 1 instead of an ip address at some point |
| [12:50:30] | <ergonlogic> | or something like that |
| [12:50:49] | <ergonlogic> | I haven't really looked at that code too much |
| [12:51:26] | <theohawse> | ahh ok, what do you think is wrong with this site: http://yaletownlantipasto.com/ loks to me like css but nothing changed, maybe perms on css injector files? |
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| [12:55:15] | <ergonlogic> | theohawse: it's worth a look |
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| [12:59:49] | <theohawse> | I just dont understand what could have changed to break it so badly |
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| [13:08:31] | <feldmand> | Hello all. 10+ hrs ago ergonlogic was helping me to install aegir 1.x onto Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Linode with drush 4.5. During that time he and anarcat explored issue here (https://drupal.org/node/2048653) except for aegir2, suspecting a mysql server and drush version compatibility issue. With aegir 1.x still problem. Q: 1) Anyone familiar with this? 2) Is aegir 2.0 actually recommended for use? Thx. |
| [13:10:54] | <feldmand> | *Correction: Not "During that time", but "Since my discussion with ergonlogic". |
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| [13:13:14] | <theohawse> | aegir 2 is working for me now lol, theres been issues but it seems to work perdy decent |
| [13:14:40] | <feldmand> | theohawse: that is good to know. The aegir documentation gave me the feeling that I should wait until it stabilizes until attempting it for production. But if you are having success, it is probably not a bad move. |
| [13:15:12] | <feldmand> | theohawse: Which Linux distro and drush version are you running with it? |
| [13:15:42] | <theohawse> | drush 5+ on debian |
| [13:17:45] | <theohawse> | but ergonlogic just had to babysit me through an upgrade from alpha2 to rc2 |
| [13:18:03] | <theohawse> | i have 12 production sites on the server |
| [13:23:53] | <theohawse> | i wish i had gone with ubuntu since theres more docs now, but sticking with debian is a bit of a learning experience |
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| [13:29:57] | <ergonlogic> | feldmand: hi, I obviously recommend Aegir2 for new deployments |
| [13:30:14] | <ergonlogic> | feldmand: it's at the release candidate stage, and so should be pretty stable |
| [13:30:57] | <ergonlogic> | and the majority of the changes are UI improvements |
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| [13:31:08] | <ergonlogic> | Aegir3 will be a bigger change |
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| [14:08:43] | <feldmand> | theohaws, ergonlogic: sorry I got pulled away with a call and then lunch. |
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| [14:11:27] | <feldmand> | theohawse: i began at couple of days building with Debian, but for some reason it seemed a bit less usuer friendly with regard to error and status messages, and my prior learning from deploying Aegir on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS were mostly useless. How has Debian been a bit of a learning experience? |
| [14:13:00] | <feldmand> | ergonlogic: good to know. I will try Aegir2 then. With drush 5+? |
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| [14:14:11] | <feldmand> | ergonlogic: is there a pre-packaged uninstall option for the aegir 1.x and/or provision? |
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| [15:01:32] | <theohawse> | can someone please look at this site for me: it was 100% perfect before an aegir update, now its completely screwed http://yaletownlantipasto.com just wasted 3 hours trying to figure it out with nothing |
| [15:03:22] | <feldmand> | theohawse: I am gettting it. Lots of nice photos of an Italian Tapas bar in what looks to be a view fit for smartphones. |
| [15:04:12] | <theohawse> | the theme is 100% borked, the header and footer are missing and css is only half working |
| [15:04:35] | <feldmand> | theohawse: yest the theme does appear to be "borked". |
| [15:05:06] | <feldmand> | theohawse: looks like you coded directly in HTML and CSS. |
| [15:05:18] | <theohawse> | this came from updating the hosting front end, nothing was touched in the site |
| [15:05:38] | <feldmand> | theohawse: Strange. |
| [15:05:42] | <theohawse> | i'm ready to smash everthing in site so going for a smoke |
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| [15:06:18] | <feldmand> | theohawse: some rest and reflection will help. Fresh mind and eyes. |
| [15:06:38] | <theohawse> | the owner is going to crap his pants in the morning though |
| [15:07:22] | <feldmand> | theohawse: backups? Got any you could restore? |
| [15:08:28] | <theohawse> | only from this morning, 12 hours of work ago, and one i did for them last year, but its not working with the latest hosting frontend |
| [15:09:29] | <theohawse> | looks like im screwed, but will try to figure it out later |
| [15:09:31] | <feldmand> | theohawse: if you step back a bit and breathe. I am sure you will find a creative solution. |
| [15:09:46] | <theohawse> | thanks dude, hopefully will |
| [15:10:23] | <feldmand> | good luck. Stuff happens. We learn. |
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| [17:44:16] | <theohawse> | ergonlogic: Thanks for all your help, i was a bit of an ass, in the end I found the theme regions to be missing in the one site but I should be able to use a new theme and adapt the old css to fit it |
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| [02:17:39] | <harman_> | hey all I thought the clone task gave an exact copy but in this case the original D7 site works fine, the clone tasks completes without errors but the resulting site has a lot of errors http://i.imgur.com/JEa2mpF.jpg - any ideas please how this might happen? |
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| [02:25:59] | <ergonlogic> | harman_: a clone basically takes a backup and then deploys it. |
| [02:27:00] | <ergonlogic> | update.php get run as part of the deployment |
| [02:27:00] | <ergonlogic> | so, if code changes underneath, you'll get different sites |
| [02:27:20] | <ergonlogic> | whether that's the platform being updated, or site-specific modules |
| [02:27:46] | <ergonlogic> | if the original site had pending updates especially |
| [02:28:45] | <ergonlogic> | harman_: in your case, it looks like the theme changed though |
| [02:29:39] | <ergonlogic> | harman_: perhaps the 'hopwag' theme didn't make it onto the new platform? |
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| [02:46:01] | <harman_> | ergonlogic: ok thank you I was wondering why the original and clone were behaving differently but actually I think the original is also now starting to show errors - and yes you are right - I exported a database and forgot that the theme was in the site folder and not in the platform folder |
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| [02:49:33] | <harman_> | thanks for your help - by the way is it better practice to keep themes in the platform folder and not the site folder? |
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| [03:07:34] | <ergonlogic> | harman_: there's some disagreement on that topic |
| [03:08:23] | <ergonlogic> | I think the natural place for a custom (sub-)theme would be in the site-specific themes dir |
| [03:09:20] | <ergonlogic> | the same goes for site-specific custom modules |
| [03:09:58] | <ergonlogic> | one practice is to maintain an install profile for each site, and then keep anything specific to the site in there |
| [03:11:11] | <ergonlogic> | I'd like to figure out the exact nature of the problem that solution is trying to solve, and fix it so we can use site-specific code |
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| [03:11:27] | <ergonlogic> | but it's been difficult to define and replicate |
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| [03:12:45] | <ergonlogic> | that was probably too much info, sorry... I just made Aegir2 aware of site-specific modules, so this is something I've been trying to figure out lately |
| [03:13:09] | <harman_> | ergonlogic: ok thanks so why would anyone prefer to keep a sub-theme in the platform dir (apart from my problem today)? |
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| [03:14:21] | <harman_> | maybe because they don't want the sub theme to be available to other sites on the same platform? |
| [03:15:36] | <ergonlogic> | harman_: di you mean: why would anyone prefer to keep a sub-theme in the *site* dir ? |
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| [03:16:34] | <ergonlogic> | then yes, because a site-specific sub-theme shouldn't be available to other sites |
| [03:16:42] | <ergonlogic> | by its very nature |
| [03:17:01] | <harman_> | ergonlogic: no - you said above "I think the natural place for a custom (sub-)theme would be in the site-specific themes dir"... |
| [03:17:25] | <harman_> | I agree but then you said "there's some disagreement on that topic" |
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| [03:17:58] | <harman_> | so I thought you meant some people disagree with putting sub theme in the site-specific themes dir |
| [03:18:39] | <ergonlogic> | right, the other option (that makes sense, imo) is to put it in a site-specific profile |
| [03:19:25] | <ergonlogic> | but it doesn't make *a lot* of sense, in a mass hosting scenario, imo |
| [03:20:33] | <ergonlogic> | I believe the problem has to do with name-space collisions between code in modules kept on the platform and the site, more than to themes |
| [03:20:51] | <harman_> | ok so no-one would put a sub-theme in the dir /aegir/platforms/platform-name/sites/all/themes ? |
| [03:22:05] | <ergonlogic> | there might be a valid use-case, but I don't see it |
| [03:22:48] | <ergonlogic> | I can't say that no one would, though, because people do funny things all the time :) |
| [03:22:58] | <ergonlogic> | and our motto is 'tools not policy' |
| [03:27:55] | <harman_> | ergonlogic: ok thanks for your help :) |
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