IRC logs for #aegir, 2013-09-05 (GMT)

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[14:31:36]<ergonlogic>hefring: log pointer?
[14:31:36]<hefring>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2013-09-05#T421661
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[00:45:00]<mgann>Anyone have any pointers on getting wildcard SSLs to work?
[00:45:12]<mgann>or, generally speaking, setting them up in AEGIR?
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[01:30:35]<ergonlogic>mgann: google turns up a number of promissing links, most of them to the community site ;)
[01:30:46]<ergonlogic>mgann: this one in particular: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/easy-wildcard-ssl-setup
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[02:24:23]<mgann>@ergonlogic, trying to deal with the chain.
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[03:18:20]<niatish>first time in here - does anyone know where the settings file where a password may have been stored in the Aegir setting
[03:22:31]<noecc>niatish: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/43
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[03:22:55]<niatish><noecc> will dig now - thanks
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[05:43:36]<Ogredude>ok, there's a thing to remember. If you've screwed things up and have the same module in both profiles/whatever/modules/ and sites/all/modules then you're going to run into problems with an Aegir install task.
[05:43:39]<Ogredude>at least if the module is Features
[05:46:05]<mvc>good to know
[05:46:42]<mvc>Ogredude: and fwiw if you have a module & a theme with the same name you'll also run into various weird problems
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[05:47:33]<Ogredude>makes sense
[05:47:43]<Ogredude>there's not really a lot of difference to Core between a theme and a module
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[05:51:43]* spyd waves, and is on a fresh "get back to aegir" kick this week ;)
[06:00:13]<spyd>so, if i want to manage multiple sites each with dev/stage/live instances, looks like http://drupal.org/project/devshop is my best bet, atm?
[06:01:05]<Ogredude>spyd: yeah. I'm not sure how stable it is, but apparently it's pretty decent
[06:04:07]<spyd>Ogredude: thanks, i'll check it out. more generally, my question is: can aegir manage sites that have their own site-specific .make file plus a git repo for custom/theme stuff?
[06:04:38]<spyd>i've seen mig5's blog post re: development workflow where all contrib stuff is at the platform level, and you just migrate sites to newer platforms when things change
[06:05:21]<spyd>thing is, i have maybe a dozen sites on a platform, and some of them have a need for a specific version of a contrib module that I don't want in sites/all/modules
[06:06:07]<spyd>i'm gonna futz around and see what i can figure out, but if anyone has insight on this, i'd appreciate it :)
[06:06:35]<Ogredude>oooerrr
[06:06:53]<Ogredude>yeah I've actually never done that kind of thing
[06:07:11]<Ogredude>I've always spooled up the site, then manually checked out the site-specific modules/themes
[06:07:20]<Ogredude>automating it would be nice though
[06:07:50]<spyd>yeah- not a big deal if we have to do those steps manually (as long as it won't bork aegir), as that's what we're doing now.. but automation would be sweet
[06:08:40]<Ogredude>yeah it's not going to bork aegir, aegir considers sites/sitename to be "site data" and doesn't even really look at it
[06:08:59]<Ogredude>just faithfully copies it over to the new platform on a migration
[06:11:29]<spyd>great, that should be good enough to work with
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[06:25:38]<spyd>hrmf. aegir-provision.deb depends on drush < 5.0, but 5.9-1 is installed :(
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[06:38:39]<Ogredude>spyd: yeah for aegir 1.x you need drush 4.x
[06:38:56]<Ogredude>so you'll probably want to change the system drush over to 4.x
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[06:39:19]<Ogredude>and I keep a /var/aegir/drush6 with a drush6 alias in mine for building my makefiles
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[06:44:46]<sanguisdex>spyd: been playing with devshop for about a month, its pretty solid. I will be release my work on getting it to work in an nginx host eventually
[06:44:58]<sanguisdex>(when I have "time" to blog
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[06:45:28]<spyd>Ogredude: yep, found a workaround to get it installed (https://drupal.org/node/2061549)
[06:46:03]<Ogredude>spyd: fantastic
[06:46:15]<spyd>sanguisdex: cool, would love to hear your experience.. seems to rely on platform-based .make files, with different branches for each environment, yes?
[06:47:29]<sanguisdex>spyd: not make files but install profiles
[06:47:53]<sanguisdex>spyd: unless I missed something
[06:47:59]<spyd>ah yes, sorry
[06:48:15]<sanguisdex>no worries :)
[06:48:22]<spyd>and a git repo with a full platform (including branches per env and install profiles)
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[06:48:39]<sanguisdex>yeah
[06:49:48]<spyd>right- so doesn't seem to /quite/ fit my use-case. i use platforms as general multi-site environments, that have a minimal set of common contrib modules, and then site-specific dev happens in the sites/<site> folder, which has its own git repo including a site.make file and a couple scripts to build the site-local contrib stuff
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[06:50:22]<sanguisdex>spyd: you add a repo, it read the repo and scans for branches, you then add enviroments based on branchs. based on the branches selected it looks for a common install profile to use for installs
[06:50:41]<spyd>right, i'm trying to get that working right now, using drupal.git
[06:51:23]<spyd>but as i say, i don't think this is going to work for most of my sites.. seems like i'm better off to handle the different environments manually and use aegir as-is
[06:51:51]<sanguisdex>spyd: fair enough well good luck
[06:52:27]<spyd>sanguisdex: thanks- still interested to hear how you work with it.. might consider switching our dev workflow if it makes life easier :)
[06:53:37]<sanguisdex>spyd: I am writing an install profile right now, its quite a bit of work but will pay off in the end
[06:56:12]<spyd>heh- so how do i uninstall devshop? ;p
[07:00:13]<spyd>and my next question: how stable is aegir 2.x, and what benefits does it have over 1.x? :)
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[07:12:19]<Ogredude>spyd: I've been running aegir2 in my aegir-up VM and it's been working pretty well
[07:12:28]<Ogredude>the latest RC has fixed the issues we were having with cloning sites
[07:12:43]<Ogredude>benefit is that it runs on drush 5/6 which is a whole lot nicer than 4.x
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