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[01:25:54]<mstenta>I discovered a small issue with the interaction between Aegir's SSL and Site Alias features: https://drupal.org/node/2084963
[01:25:54]<hefring>mstenta: 6 days 17 hours ago <ergonlogic> tell mstenta I believe we're limited to 1:1 ssl to ip addr ratio, until we move to SNI, when windowsXP goes EOL, ~april 2014
[01:25:54]<hefring>mstenta: 6 days 17 hours ago <ergonlogic> tell mstenta if you create your own vhosts, you're probably better off putting them elsewhere, but Aegir shouldn't touch them unless there's a name collision
[01:26:20]<mstenta>thanks ergonlogic!
[01:28:35]<mstenta>ergonlogic: regarding 1:1 SSL to IP ratio... huh. so that's a limitation of Windows?
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[01:30:27]<mvc>mstenta: it's a limitation of the winxp tcp/ip stack
[01:31:09]<mvc>this means all versions of IE on winxp can't handle the SNI protocol
[01:31:49]<mvc>basically all other modern browser & web servers handle it fine, but there are too many winxp users out there still to run a production site with SNI
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[01:32:34]<mvc>(other browsers on winxp work around this but afaict IE doesn't)
[01:32:45]<mstenta>mvc: really? I'm serving two different SSL certs (on two different domain names) from the same IP right now... I don't think we've had any issues with it. Are you saying it's a client-side problem, though? Or a server-side (affecting windows servers)?
[01:33:13]<mvc>mstenta: i'm saying it's a client side problem affecting people running IE on winxp
[01:33:24]<mstenta>mvc: (I'm hoping we haven't been losing traffic because of it... without noticing)
[01:33:26]<mstenta>hmmmm
[01:34:09]<mstenta>mvc: Does it basically go on a first-come-first-serve basis? Like whichever SSL cert connects itself to a given IP in the client's IE... that one is valid, and then the second one would be invalid to them?
[01:35:09]<mvc>mstenta: no idea. all i know is that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication#Support says i can't turn it on until winxp completes its slow lingering death.
[01:35:26]<mvc>so if you're running it in production i would do some testing
[01:35:46]<mstenta>mvc: phew! well thanks for the heads up! i was totally unaware of that issue
[01:35:59]<mstenta>mvc: luckily our second SSL cert gets almost no traffic at all
[01:36:16]<mstenta>mvc: but still... i'll have to look into that and do some testing
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[01:37:57]<mvc>http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Wind...
[01:38:24]<mvc>good luck .. and if you ever figure out why a crappy OS released in 2001 was the world's most popular desktop OS until sometime last year, let me know
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[02:02:25]<ergonlogic>hefring: log p-
[02:02:35]<ergonlogic>hefring: log pointer?
[02:02:35]<hefring>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2013-09-09#T422742
[02:02:54]<anarcat>hey ergonlogic
[02:03:18]<ergonlogic>anarcat: hi, welcome back :)
[02:04:13]<anarcat>hi, thanks :)
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[02:21:57]<ergonlogic>anarcat: so you're back for a couple weeks before heading out to DC Prague, right?
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[02:25:22]<ergonlogic>anarcat: I'd like to try to get get 2.0 out by then
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[02:26:32]<ergonlogic>since none of the remaining critical issues are with Aegir itself
[02:27:36]<ergonlogic>anarcat: what do you think?
[02:46:26]<ergonlogic>anarcat: also, sr&ed looks promising; see my email
[02:48:04]<Morbus>i have just accidentally deleted all the Aegir .drushrc files.
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[02:48:18]<Morbus>all the platform drushrcs, all the site drushrcs...
[02:48:22]<Morbus>is there a way to regenerate them?
[02:49:02]<ergonlogic>Morbus: try verifying the platforms
[02:49:23]<Morbus>can’t even get to Hostmaster - that was one of the deleted RCs.
[02:49:28]<Morbus>drushrcs.
[02:49:42]<ergonlogic>but the front-end should still work
[02:49:51]<ergonlogic>I see
[02:49:57]<ergonlogic>@hostmaster is gone?
[02:49:58]<Morbus>when i head to it, it’s showing the drupal install screen, etc.
[02:50:19]<ergonlogic>then it isn't just the rcs that you've deleted
[02:50:39]<Morbus>mm, yes, the hostmaster sites dir is gone too.
[02:50:46]<Morbus>i did a git clean instead of a git stash clear.
[02:50:47]* Morbus sighs.
[02:50:56]<ergonlogic>ouch
[02:50:56]<Morbus>thankfully, it’s just a staging site, but i still have to recover.
[02:51:35]<ergonlogic>do you still have /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d?
[02:51:51]<Morbus>yep.
[02:52:02]<Morbus>i also have a clone of this staging server, only with changes URLs.
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[02:52:10]<ergonlogic>ok, so at least you still have db creds for your sites
[02:52:12]<Morbus>ie., hostmaster.example.com vs. hostmaster.staging.example.com
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[02:53:31]<ergonlogic>so, back up what you have remaining in /var/aegir
[02:54:05]<ergonlogic>get back your hostmaster platform
[02:54:25]<ergonlogic>or possibly just 'drush hostmaster-install'
[02:54:54]<ergonlogic>you had deleted all the server drushrc's too?
[02:55:12]<Morbus>ok, I’ve got my hostmaster back.
[02:55:33]<Morbus>i just copied over hostmaster/drushrc.php and sites/hostmaster… from production to staging.
[02:55:40]<Morbus>so, you want me to verify the platforms now?
[02:55:54]<ergonlogic>give that a try
[02:56:55]<ergonlogic>the site dirs under the platforms still have their drushrc.php's?
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[02:57:41]<Morbus>they seem to, yes.
[02:58:18]<ergonlogic>oh, you'll probably need to rebuild the @hostmaster alias first
[02:58:43]<ergonlogic>/var/aegir/.drush/hostmaster.drushrc.php
[02:59:02]<ergonlogic>which should be pretty similar to the one on your prod site
[02:59:08]<Morbus>yeah, i copied that over from production too.
[02:59:18]<Morbus>all all the platforms drushrc's.
[02:59:27]<Morbus>since those didn’t change anything in the file itself, it seems.
[03:01:24]<Morbus>hrm, my queues don’t seem to be running now.
[03:01:30]<Morbus>Verify’s are just sitting there
[03:01:53]<ergonlogic>restart hosting_queued
[03:02:06]<ergonlogic>is this an aegir1 or 2?
[03:02:12]<Morbus>1, sadly.
[03:02:41]<Morbus>i don’t have anything in my process list for aegir or hosting.
[03:02:43]<ergonlogic>too bad ;P... then restart hosting_queue_runner
[03:03:09]<ergonlogic>or, you could process the queue manually
[03:03:20]<Morbus>sure, what’s the command for that?
[03:03:24]<ergonlogic>'drush @hostmaster hosting-dispatch'
[03:03:45]<Morbus>he drush command 'hosting-dispatch' could not be found. [error]
[03:03:45]<Morbus>Could not find a Drupal settings.php file at ./sites/default/settings.php. [error]
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[03:04:20]<ergonlogic>what does 'drush @hostmaster status' say?
[03:04:45]<Morbus>missing @server_localhost and @platform_hostmaster.
[03:04:48]<Morbus>copying those over from prod.
[03:05:07]<Morbus>ok.
[03:05:10]<Morbus>now status looks good.
[03:05:12]<Morbus>reruning queue.
[03:05:27]<Morbus>same error.
[03:05:49]<ergonlogic>does 'drush @hostmaster status' show the theme as 'eldir'?
[03:05:56]<Morbus>no, garland.
[03:06:05]<ergonlogic>so that's not really Aegir then
[03:06:14]<Morbus>mmm, hold.
[03:06:41]<Morbus>ok. fixed that.
[03:06:52]<Morbus>queues ran.
[03:07:08]<Morbus>so, i ran a verify on a platform with no sites, and it went fine.
[03:07:11]<Morbus>green'd.
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[03:08:15]<ergonlogic>brb
[03:08:41]<Morbus>running the verify on the junk platform did recreate the drushrc for that.
[03:09:51]<Morbus>it didn’t recreate any of the sites /var/aegir/.drush/ drushrcs for the sites under it though.
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[03:12:16]<Morbus>verifying the site did recreate the /var/aegir/.drush file.
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[03:12:30]<Morbus>so i’ll go through and do ‘em all. and at that point, i should be good enough.
[03:12:32]<Morbus>ergonlogic: thanks!
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[03:16:52]<anarcat>ergonlogic: we can finance a code sprint! :)
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[03:20:02]<Morbus>heh.
[03:20:17]<Morbus>i just verified all the sites, and now hostmaster. is broken again.
[03:20:34]<Morbus>just get a 404 on hostmaster.staging.example.com.
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[03:35:22]<ergonlogic>anarcat: a code sprint at dc prague, you mean?
[03:35:59]<ergonlogic>Morbus: any further progress?
[03:36:08]<Morbus>ergonlogic: things seem to be alright now, thanks.
[03:36:28]<Morbus>from both Verifying and copying files from production, it seems to be normal.
[03:36:38]<Morbus>thankfully, git clean logs what it’s deleting ;)
[03:37:45]<ergonlogic>I'm glad to hear it :)
[03:38:35]<Morbus>thanks for the help.
[03:42:32]<anarcat>ergonlogic: no, here, before i go, so we release 2.0
[03:42:47]<ergonlogic>anarcat: ah, good!
[03:43:40]<ergonlogic>I'm sure there'd be remote folks interested in helping out too :)
[03:44:06]<ergonlogic>where 'remote' just means 'not in Montreal' :)
[03:48:27]<ergonlogic>ok, over in #drush, I just asked about a 5.10 release
[03:50:01]<ergonlogic>I uograded remote_import to Aegir 2 last week, so I think the upgrade docs issue should be resolvable
[03:50:55]<ergonlogic>which basically leaves the release process and jenkins criticals
[03:51:29]<ergonlogic>those are pretty intertwined, since our release process has suffered from the breakdown of jenkins
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[04:29:44]<ergonlogic>fyi https://github.com/drush-ops/drush/issues/71
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[04:30:37]* ergonlogic just posted a request for a 5.10 release of Drush ^^^
[04:30:50]<ergonlogic>Let's make sure all the fixes we need are incorporated
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[04:47:45]<sanguisdex>where on a remote server is the vhost file live? or is it all done as a dns zone on the aiger server?
[04:53:14]<Ogredude>hrmm
[04:53:29]<Ogredude>it seems to me that if a single error in a drush make is going to cause the make to fail, then it should stop building when it hits the error
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[05:18:45]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: btw, aegir-up has been working splendidly, with the exception that when I first start the vagrant box, I need to manually mount the shared folder, and I need to start the hosting-queued service
[05:18:49]<Ogredude>not sure what's going on in there
[05:21:22]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: iirc, I commented-out the shared folder in the settings.rb, by default
[05:22:44]<ergonlogic>I thought I'd fixed starting the queue daemon automatically, but it might just be in the aegir::dev class...
[05:23:41]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: it's uncommented on mine
[05:25:07]<ergonlogic>Ogredude: if you document it in a bug report on d.o, I'll take a look that I have the chance
[05:26:23]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: will do
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[07:04:24]<Ogredude>ergonlogic: I am failing to find any documentation on what exactly happens during a platform's verify task, and when I'm looking at the task log, I'm not entirely certain what I'm reading.
[07:04:35]<Ogredude>Do you have any more information on what exactly the platform verify task accomplishes?
[07:05:17]<Ogredude>when I need to test my build, I've been doing rm -rf platformdir, then drush make, then verify the platform
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