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[21:00:16]<danquah>anyone knows whether someone has made a module for hostmaster to allow one to import a backup from an external source such as an URL?
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[22:02:21]<mvc>danquah: haven't seen that but should be simple using code from the module filefield_sources
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[22:04:47]<danquah>mvc: ok, thanks for the reference, we might just build module for this if the customer really wants it
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[23:34:32]<mvc>danquah: good luck, and if you write something don't forget to share it as a contrib module so that the broader community can offer you free testing & patches :)
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[23:43:01]<ergonlogic>hefring: log pointer?
[23:43:01]<hefring>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2013-09-12#T423864
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[23:44:52]<ergonlogic>danquah: check out https://drupal.org/project/hosting_site_backup_manager and remote_import
[23:45:22]<ergonlogic>it should be pretty easy to extend one of those to do something like that
[23:48:13]<ergonlogic>maybe this too: https://drupal.org/sandbox/darthsteven/1178192
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[23:58:57]<ergonlogic>mengi: fyi, aegir2 is in the stable repo
[23:59:17]<ergonlogic>spyd: aegir2 should work with drush 6 just fine
[00:00:16]<ergonlogic>in fact, I'm running it on drush 7, which is just HEAD really, in dev without problems
[00:00:56]<ergonlogic>I'm pestering anarcat to do a drush6 .deb too
[00:01:23]* anarcat is pestered ;)
[00:01:31]<ergonlogic>though, I suppose I have the permissions to do it myself...
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[00:03:35]<ergonlogic>anarcat: drush packaging is essentially the same as Aegir, I take it? if so, I'll take a stab at it now
[00:03:56]<anarcat>it's pretty different, actually, because there's no daemon and so on
[00:03:59]<ergonlogic>hmm, non-native
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[00:28:50]<ergonlogic>I can't find a debian/ dir anywhere in the current drush git repo...
[00:30:11]<anarcat>it's in a collab-maint repo
[00:30:27]<anarcat>Vcs-git: git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/drush.git
[00:30:27]<anarcat>Vcs-browser: http://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/drush.git
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[00:41:52]<ergonlogic>ah, just what I was looking for :)
[00:43:18]<anarcat>apt-cache show drush should have told you :)
[00:45:29]<ergonlogic>oh, of course :p
[00:46:35]<ergonlogic>so this gets cloned into <drush_root>/debian, I suppose?
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[00:52:28]<anarcat>no
[00:52:35]<anarcat>there's a readme in debian/ i believe
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[03:54:40]<mstenta>So just out of curiosity... when working with a server that is set up in a Virtual Box (using Vagrant)... how are y'all handling development? Do you use VBox shared folders? SSHFS? FTP (please no)??
[03:55:24]<mstenta>I've tried shared folders, but there seem to be a lot of issues... speed is a big one, which supposedly NFS fixes... but another one is the fact that shared files and folders cannot have their ownership or group changed within the VM.
[03:55:53]<mstenta>So I'm sort of landing on using SSHFS... to mount /var/aegir locally, using ssh with the aegir user.
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[03:56:28]<mstenta>That seems to work great. The only real drawback is that all the files are actually in the VM, so if that gets destroyed or corrupted, they're gone.
[03:56:51]<mstenta>Of course, that can be avoided with an rsync script that runs automatically to back them up...
[03:57:10]<mstenta>But I wanted to see what others are doing... this must be a common issue...
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[04:35:19]<ergonlogic>mstenta: vim :)
[04:35:43]<mstenta>ergonlogic: :-) ok... that was kind of what i was expecting
[04:36:21]<ergonlogic>mounting stuff locally is a noce idea, but implementations all leave something to be desired
[04:36:38]<mstenta>ergonlogic: yea, that's what i'm finding
[04:36:39]<ergonlogic>it'd be cool if you wrote up your sshfs config, though
[04:36:54]<mstenta>ergonlogic: i'd be happy to
[04:37:02]<ergonlogic>it's an ongoing issue in aegir-up
[04:37:12]<mstenta>ergonlogic: sshfs seems to be the "least bad" solution... if you really want to develop using local applications
[04:37:44]<ergonlogic>currently we'll optionally mount /var/aegir/shared-platforms via nfs
[04:37:51]<ergonlogic>doesn't help with aegir itself
[04:38:10]<ergonlogic>but give you an option to build platforms that are locally accessible
[04:38:28]<mstenta>i'm still honing in on the best approach, but right now i'm playing around with just having an "aegir" folder in my Vagrant root (where vagrantfile is), and then mounting all of /var/aegir into it
[04:38:29]<ergonlogic>throws warnings in verify tasks though, of course
[04:38:36]<ergonlogic>due to the chown thing
[04:39:22]<ergonlogic>yeah, it sounds good
[04:39:25]<mstenta>sshfs is nice because it doesn't mess with ownership at all... it just mounts the files there via ssh, so you are literally using the "aegir" user as if you were doing it via terminal ssh
[04:39:44]<mstenta>it plays very nicely with Git too
[04:39:58]<mstenta>so i can commit locally... and it keeps my Git configured name and email, for example
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[04:40:26]<ergonlogic>I've been meaning to look into sshfs, but since I develop on the host, I've found other work-arounds
[04:40:47]<ergonlogic>like I'll copy my dotfiles into /var/aegir
[04:40:54]<mstenta>yea
[04:40:59]<ergonlogic>automatically, mind you
[04:41:16]<ergonlogic>and 'chsh aegir -s /bin/bash', and such
[04:41:31]<mstenta>yea, i'm considering looking into using Vagrant hooks to automate the sshfs mount as well...
[04:41:43]<mstenta>have you worked with those at all (Vagrant hooks)
[04:41:44]<mstenta>?
[04:41:55]<ergonlogic>sorry, that should have read "since I *don't* develop on the host"
[04:42:11]<mstenta>gotcha
[04:42:55]<mstenta>the sshfs mount command is super simple:
[04:42:58]<mstenta>sshfs aegir@root.local:/var/aegir ./aegir
[04:43:13]<mstenta>(root.local is the hostname of my VM in /etc/hosts)
[04:43:33]<mstenta>and then to unmount:
[04:43:37]<mstenta>fusermount -u ./aegir
[04:44:35]<ergonlogic>not much, but https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/pull/753#issuecomment-4156974 ;)
[04:45:01]<ergonlogic>I've written a vagrant plugin, but ruby's not my strong suit
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[05:00:36]<mstenta>ergonlogic: cool
[05:03:18]<mstenta>ergonlogic: hmm, so i guess i overestimated the vagrant hooks system
[05:03:59]<mstenta>ergonlogic: i guess i assumed there already were lightweight ways to hook into different places (ie: pre-destroy, post-up, etc)
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[05:04:08]<mstenta>hrm
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[09:08:06]<mengi>ergonlogic: the docs say to use unstable to use 2.x, is that not correct?
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[09:45:53]<ergonlogic>mengi: nope
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[09:46:21]<ergonlogic>http://debian.aegirproject.org/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Packages
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