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| [17:36:26] | <busla> | has anyone setup Ægir 2.0 with RaspPi ? |
| [17:36:32] | <busla> | *RasbPi |
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| [21:40:11] | <monsoonpk> | In the module "Translation Updates" ther is an option "Store downloaded files" where I have to provide a directory where downloaded files will be saved. When I try create any directory any directory it says: "The directory /files/downloaded_translations does not exist or is not writable". I have manually created a directory "downloaded_translations" in "aegir_platform/sites/MY_SITE/files" folder but it is not being read. Please help what is the right |
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| [21:57:04] | <chertzog> | morning everybody! |
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| [02:16:38] | <obicke> | holy crap there's a lot of people in here… Kudos! |
| [02:18:53] | <chertzog> | yeah, but nobody is around |
| [02:18:56] | <obicke> | anarcat: I'd love to have a little chat with you about a potential plugin for Aegir (that we've already discussed before). Let me know if/when you'd have 5-10 minutes to talk later today. |
| [02:19:35] | <anarcat> | i will probably not have time until prague - will you be there? :) |
| [02:19:43] | <obicke> | chertzog: yeah, so we could wish for things to be better, but still… great start! |
| [02:20:24] | <obicke> | anarcat: yeah right! nope, no jet-setting for me… too bad too… Prague is cool. |
| [02:20:34] | <chertzog> | yep |
| [02:20:40] | <anarcat> | i never saw prague, i'm happy i am going |
| [02:20:50] | <anarcat> | it's kind of unfortunate we didn't get to drum it up so much |
| [02:20:53] | <anarcat> | oh well |
| [02:20:54] | <obicke> | I wouldn't expect you to be unhappy about it. |
| [02:20:56] | <chertzog> | i would love to go |
| [02:20:59] | <anarcat> | hehe |
| [02:21:21] | <obicke> | anarcat: so like… not even 5 minutes now? :-P |
| [02:21:39] | <obicke> | or should I just engage you in chat for another 5 minutes :-P |
| [02:22:22] | <obicke> | seriously, no pressure, but a few minutes now could get a ball rolling… if we want a ball to be rolling |
| [02:22:40] | <chertzog> | obicke: im not sure if id be any help, but i can chat with you.... plus then maybe anarcat will see it :) |
| [02:23:00] | <anarcat> | obicke: go go |
| [02:23:13] | <anarcat> | don't ask to ask just ask and all |
| [02:23:55] | <anarcat> | http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/aegir-going-drupalcon-prague |
| [02:23:58] | <anarcat> | already something... |
| [02:24:05] | <obicke> | OK, then… we'll do it here... |
| [02:24:55] | * obicke takes a deep breath… |
| [02:27:28] | <obicke> | Basically, Dave Hall had once described to you the possibility of making it so that Aegir could migrate sites to Acquia hosting (yes, I work there now). While I have zero doubt that implementing this is far from the priorities of any of the Aegir developers, I was curious to know if somebody would be interested in doing this work if/when I'd be able to get some funds from Acquia to do so. |
| [02:27:34] | * obicke braces himself. |
| [02:28:33] | <mvc> | is acquia planning an equivalent feature to make it easy to migrate sites away from their hosting platforms and into an arbitrary aegir instance? :) |
| [02:28:52] | <obicke> | Honestly, I was going to ask you (anarcat) specifically about this… trying to feel things out… but, what the hell, the idea is on the table. |
| [02:29:14] | <obicke> | mvc: very unlikely… although, I'll be pushing for that kind of thing... |
| [02:29:32] | <obicke> | but expect that it would take a long time to steer the ship that direction. |
| [02:29:48] | <anarcat> | sure, i wouldn't mind |
| [02:30:17] | <anarcat> | i find it unfortunate that acquia decided to go for a proprietary solution for their hosting instead of embracing free software, but we are all for interoperability |
| [02:30:23] | <obicke> | mvc: it is worth noting that both systems allow for export/import functionality… so we're just talking about making it easy to do so... |
| [02:30:41] | <obicke> | and there's a fundamental difference between these tools... |
| [02:30:44] | <anarcat> | of course it is not a priority to interoperate with closed software, but if the work is paid, it can only be beneficial to Aegir, as it will make it a standard |
| [02:31:17] | <anarcat> | it was one of the objectives of 2.x to leverage the 'standard' drush archive-dump format, but we didn't have time to do that |
| [02:31:45] | <obicke> | aegir has always been designed to allow maximum flexibility for users for centrally control the provisioning of their sites across multiple hosts… Acquia has, thus far, just been focussed on getting clients into their stack. |
| [02:32:25] | <anarcat> | obicke: i need to go |
| [02:32:39] | <obicke> | anarcat: yeah, that's kinda what I figured the answer would be… which is cool IMO. |
| [02:32:56] | <obicke> | anarcat: ack… expect an email from me. |
| [02:33:09] | <anarcat> | ok |
| [02:33:10] | <anarcat> | ciao! |
| [02:33:11] | <obicke> | Would anybody else like to comment/discuss? |
| [02:33:57] | <chertzog> | how do you see it working? |
| [02:34:13] | <chertzog> | like a "migrate to Acquia Cloud" task? |
| [02:34:43] | <obicke> | chertzog: I'm not a developer and so can't provide the details… I know that Dave Hall spoke about this with Antoine and I |
| [02:34:55] | <chertzog> | is it per site/platform/server? |
| [02:34:59] | <obicke> | … have written to him in the hopes of getting a write-up/ |
| [02:34:59] | <chertzog> | ok |
| [02:36:07] | <obicke> | for the record, I still think that Aegir kicks ass… except for the speed of development, which (the last time I took notice) was slow/lagging... |
| [02:37:02] | <obicke> | also, for the record, the idea of skipping D7 (which maybe I'm mistaken about) seemed problematic to me, at least from a marketing standpoint. |
| [02:37:49] | <chertzog> | agreed. i have recently started helping out with aegir dev. I also thought that skipping D7 would be an issue. |
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| [02:38:56] | <chertzog> | in the past few days, ive posted a number of patches. Its just trying to wrap my head around the architecture that is slowing me down at the moment |
| [02:39:11] | <hefring> | community => Aegir going to Drupalcon Prague! => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/aegir-going-drupalcon-prague |
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| [03:12:12] | <that0n3guy> | Hey, I have themes under [drupalroot]/profiles and I'm haveing issues with image errors for non dev. domains (using barracuda). |
| [03:12:28] | <that0n3guy> | example: profiles/commerce_kickstart/themes/omega_kickstart/images/thisimage.png works if my domain is dev.thisthing.com, but not thisthing.com |
| [03:13:48] | <Aciid> | that0n3guy: what do the image paths look like |
| [03:14:49] | <that0n3guy> | its just images specified in css: background: url(/profiles/commerce_kickstart/themes/omega_kickstart/images/Leather Line_edited-1.png) repeat-x scroll 0 27px transparent; |
| [03:15:25] | <that0n3guy> | on the dev site it looks like: background: url("../images/Leather Line_edited-1.png") repeat-x scroll 0 27px transparent; |
| [03:15:41] | <that0n3guy> | aciid: but they are both running on the same platfomr/profile |
| [03:16:13] | <Aciid> | CSS urls should all be relative |
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| [03:18:33] | <that0n3guy> | aciid: actual css looks like: background: url("../images/Leather Line_edited-1.png") repeat-x scroll 0 27px transparent; |
| [03:18:42] | <Aciid> | check my pm |
| [03:18:44] | <that0n3guy> | so it is relative... |
| [03:19:25] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: log pointer? |
| [03:19:25] | <hefring> | http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2013-09-20#T427370 |
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| [03:19:35] | <ergonlogic> | I hear that I missed something interesting... |
| [03:19:56] | <chertzog> | possibly. |
| [03:20:09] | <chertzog> | acquia want in on some hot aegir action |
| [03:21:04] | <mvc> | ah, yes, an attempt at "embrace & extend". a sure sign aegir's arrived :) |
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| [03:31:25] | <ergonlogic> | obicke: still around? |
| [03:31:43] | <obicke> | yep |
| [03:31:52] | <ergonlogic> | For the record, we aren't skipping D7, and are more than half-way there |
| [03:31:55] | <ergonlogic> | hi :) |
| [03:32:11] | <ergonlogic> | thanks in no small part to chertzog's recent efforts |
| [03:32:12] | <obicke> | oh… ok… so I *was* confused. |
| [03:32:20] | <ergonlogic> | yeah, the idea had been floated |
| [03:32:28] | <ergonlogic> | but it didn't make any sense |
| [03:32:33] | <obicke> | agreed |
| [03:32:48] | <obicke> | and IMO would have cost you any/all momentum you've built up |
| [03:33:07] | <ergonlogic> | fyi, there's already an Aegir extension for importing DrupalGardens sites |
| [03:33:28] | <ergonlogic> | so something reciprocal would be just fine imo |
| [03:33:38] | <obicke> | hmm… interesting... |
| [03:33:51] | <ergonlogic> | also, as for the speed of developing on Aegir, there's been a lot of improvements there |
| [03:33:56] | <ergonlogic> | DevShop for one |
| [03:34:18] | <ergonlogic> | also, I think Aegir-up is pretty cool, if I do say so myself |
| [03:34:33] | <chertzog> | +1000 for aegir-up |
| [03:34:37] | <obicke> | also, when thinking about this I couldn't help but remember that Acquia has some affiliate programs… one could imagine making it so that the plugin would allow the Aegir-owner to get some kickback on that… but /me is just thinking out loud |
| [03:35:04] | <ergonlogic> | while still pre-alpha, we have a project called Valkyrie that builds atop devshop |
| [03:35:07] | <obicke> | yep, Aegir up is cool |
| [03:35:20] | * obicke doesn't know DevShop |
| [03:35:41] | * chertzog either |
| [03:35:49] | <ergonlogic> | meh, I don't see that being a priority |
| [03:36:35] | <ergonlogic> | but, just blue-skying here, I'd like to re-write drush-vagrant atop Provision and vagrant-yaml |
| [03:36:38] | <obicke> | ergonlogic: the bottom line is that I'd need to get some documentation on steps/scope/cost before I can make a serious run at getting Acquia to fund it... |
| [03:36:52] | <obicke> | so I wrote to Dave Hall… and then showed up here... |
| [03:37:01] | <obicke> | the rest is history to be made. |
| [03:37:07] | <obicke> | :-P |
| [03:37:41] | <ergonlogic> | this *should* allow us to develop a site locally, then spin up an EC2 server and push the site there, etc. |
| [03:38:39] | <ergonlogic> | acquia's servers could be a destination for such as well |
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| [03:38:52] | <obicke> | to be clear, I wouldn't even be able to fill you in on the details of working with Acquia's APIs… |
| [03:39:01] | <ergonlogic> | the initial plan is to allow deployment to a production aegir env, obviously |
| [03:39:10] | <ergonlogic> | yeah, I hav no idea either |
| [03:39:28] | <obicke> | I just know that I need to get a "yeah, let's talk" from the Aegir community… then I need some initial scoping… then we can initiate more complete discussions. |
| [03:39:43] | <ergonlogic> | we've wanted to support drush archive-dump, so that miht just end up being the best solution |
| [03:39:57] | <ergonlogic> | which I think anarcat mentioned ther |
| [03:40:09] | <obicke> | and for the record, this is a completely individual initiative… Acquia has not asked me to look into this. |
| [03:40:49] | <ergonlogic> | sure, well, if they're interested, *yeah, let's talk* :) |
| [03:41:35] | <ergonlogic> | we also have a contrib extension called remote_import |
| [03:41:56] | <ergonlogic> | currently it allows importing between aegirs |
| [03:41:59] | <obicke> | I asked one person, who is quite well placed, and he said "sounds like a good idea… get it scoped and we'll talk"... |
| [03:42:33] | * obicke wonders what the best "Way Forward" is at this point. |
| [03:42:51] | <ergonlogic> | so, are you looking for something that would push from aegir to acquia |
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| [03:43:05] | <obicke> | yep |
| [03:43:12] | <ergonlogic> | or something that would pull |
| [03:43:16] | <ergonlogic> | ? |
| [03:43:19] | <ergonlogic> | push? |
| [03:43:25] | <obicke> | hmm…. |
| [03:43:35] | <obicke> | so, check it out, I hadn't even thought that far. |
| [03:43:54] | <obicke> | I guess which ever would be easier to implement... |
| [03:44:00] | <ergonlogic> | I'd assume push, since it wouldn't be any aegir dev otherwise |
| [03:44:08] | <obicke> | as the end result if pretty equivalent either way |
| [03:44:35] | <obicke> | s/if/is |
| [03:45:31] | <obicke> | ergonlogic: I need to jump on some other stuff… and have to digest what I've learned so far… so how about we revisit this next week |
| [03:45:33] | <obicke> | ? |
| [03:45:44] | <ergonlogic> | obicke: sure |
| [03:46:00] | <ergonlogic> | obicke: can you confirm that we'd be talking about this: https://cloudapi.acquia.com/ |
| [03:46:07] | <ergonlogic> | as the acquia end of things? |
| [03:46:25] | <obicke> | ergonlogic: of course, it the idea starts burning a hole in your head, feel free to braindump to my inbox. |
| [03:46:33] | <obicke> | yep |
| [03:46:40] | <obicke> | yep cloud api |
| [03:46:49] | <obicke> | s/it/if |
| [03:47:11] | <ergonlogic> | ok, I'll talk it over with anarcat |
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| [03:47:38] | <ergonlogic> | I've got too much else going on, so don't expect anything more for a bit :) |
| [03:48:02] | <ergonlogic> | but I'd be interested in doing such work |
| [03:48:12] | <ergonlogic> | assuming all the stars aligned |
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| [03:58:35] | <obicke> | ergonlogic et al: fyi… this is probably a relevant link: https://docs.acquia.com/cloud/site/import/connector/migrate |
| [03:59:42] | <ergonlogic> | obicke: you realize that page is behind a registration wall? |
| [03:59:53] | <ergonlogic> | any chance you could send me a copy or something? |
| [04:00:01] | <obicke> | ooops… no didn't realize. |
| [04:00:06] | <obicke> | I'll look into that |
| [04:00:11] | <ergonlogic> | I don't really want to sign up to acquia today |
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| [04:21:48] | <anarcat> | hmm? |
| [04:22:48] | <anarcat> | ah |
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| [05:09:01] | <noecc> | ergonlogic: Was http://www.nyccamp.org/aegir-2-whats-new recorded? |
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| [06:23:35] | <chertzog> | its quiet today.... |
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| [07:42:28] | <chertzog> | ergonlogic: you around? |
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| [07:42:44] | <ergonlogic> | hi |
| [07:42:44] | <hefring> | hey |
| [07:42:50] | <ergonlogic> | just leaving |
| [07:42:55] | <ergonlogic> | or soon, anyway |
| [07:42:58] | <ergonlogic> | what's up? |
| [07:43:30] | <chertzog> | ok, not sure if you noticed, but i posted D7 upgrade patches for 5 of your hosting contrib modules |
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| [07:44:16] | <chertzog> | subdomains, tasks_extra, profile_roles, expire_dates (oops only 4) |
| [07:44:18] | <ergonlogic> | I just saw a couple |
| [07:44:22] | <ergonlogic> | missed some though |
| [07:44:24] | <ergonlogic> | wow |
| [07:44:36] | <ergonlogic> | nice! |
| [07:44:41] | <chertzog> | they are all untested, but should be a great start |
| [07:44:54] | <ergonlogic> | watch out, or we'll lasso you into being a maintainer :) |
| [07:45:01] | <chertzog> | i expanded expiry dates to leverage the drupal 7 queue api |
| [07:45:41] | <chertzog> | i would gladly accept |
| [07:45:44] | <ergonlogic> | there are some issues around replacing aegir's queue too |
| [07:45:52] | <chertzog> | i saw those. |
| [07:46:05] | <ergonlogic> | alright, I'll talk it over with my colleagues :) |
| [07:46:22] | <chertzog> | i was going to look into the existing queue, first then try and write a patch |
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| [07:47:05] | <chertzog> | like i said before, I'm good with the front end of things, but provision is still foreign to me. |
| [07:47:16] | <chertzog> | but im working on it |
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| [07:48:11] | <chertzog> | the D7 queue api is is really easy |
| [07:48:57] | <chertzog> | i actually wrote a subscription module around it https://drupal.org/project/field_based_subscriptions |
| [07:49:31] | <ergonlogic> | k, I gotta run |
| [07:49:38] | <chertzog> | ok. later |
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