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[22:53:01]<anarcat>cweagans: ping
[22:53:04]<anarcat>oh you're right there
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[23:43:43]<ergonlogic>hefring: log pointer?
[23:43:43]<hefring>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2013-09-26#T429481
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[23:46:16]<chertzog>ergonlogic: after reviewing the oustanding critical issues, it seems that rc5 is only waiting on drush 5.10 correct?
[23:46:47]<ergonlogic>chertzog: I haven'T looked at the queue for a couple days
[23:47:04]<ergonlogic>so there might be others that have crept in
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[23:47:53]<ergonlogic>tht said, it'd be good to get an rc out with 5.10
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[23:48:05]<chertzog>sure
[23:48:06]<ergonlogic>prior to the full release
[23:48:37]<ergonlogic>I haven't had the time or energy for a new rc, though
[23:48:45]<ergonlogic>I've been meaning to do it since last week
[23:49:00]<chertzog>no worries. i was just curious
[23:49:19]<helmo>Let's hope the drush 5.x maintainer gets around to it this week ...
[23:49:36]<ergonlogic>is jonhattan in Prague?
[23:49:44]<helmo>not sure
[23:49:54]<ergonlogic>I offered to bribe him with beer
[23:50:11]<ergonlogic>and delegated it to anarcat :)
[23:50:26]<helmo>his page https://drupal.org/user/49817 does not mention it
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[23:51:15]<anarcat>he's not
[23:51:25]<anarcat>i will probably arrange the 5.10 release today or tomorrow
[23:51:28]<anarcat>prolly tomorrow
[23:51:48]<anarcat>going out for coffee now, will sprint a lot more tomorrow
[23:52:27]<ergonlogic>anarcat: say, what's the plan for drush6.deb?
[23:52:38]<ergonlogic>ah... later
[23:52:45]<ergonlogic>I have a mtg in a couple minutes
[23:57:15]<ergonlogic>chertzog: fyi, this got bumped to critical: https://drupal.org/node/2098389
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[00:01:49]<chertzog>i see. maybe its time to dive more into provision...
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[01:07:09]<hefring>community => Problems with 2.0-RC4 on Arch Linux => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/problems-20-rc4-arch-linux
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[04:15:49]<anarcat>ergonlogic: no plan just yet - what do you think?
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[04:49:21]<ergonlogic>yay! drush 5.10!
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[05:23:25]<ergonlogic>anarcat: would you be interested in co-presenting an Aegir2 session at DrupalCamp Montreal?
[05:24:16]<anarcat>i would!
[05:24:32]<ergonlogic>anarcat: ok, I'll write up a sessions proposal
[05:25:05]<ergonlogic>hopefully we'll get a good recording
[05:25:13]<ergonlogic>anarcat: re drush6.deb...
[05:25:23]<ergonlogic>Do we want to maintain them in parallel
[05:25:33]<ergonlogic>like aegir/aegir2 packages?
[05:25:56]<ergonlogic>I don't know that it's worthwhile
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[05:27:22]<anarcat>well, i don't know
[05:27:28]<anarcat>why would we need to?
[05:29:28]<ergonlogic>well, just your reticence to move to drush 6, I guess
[05:29:38]<ergonlogic>sorry, my perception of that :)
[05:33:09]<anarcat>i don't know how i would explain such reticence right now, so i guess i wdon't see the point
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[05:39:40]<ergonlogic>anarcat: fyi: http://drupalcampmontreal.com/en/aegir-2-whats-new
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[05:39:57]<ergonlogic>anarcat: let me know once you register on the site, so I can add you as a co-presenter
[05:40:35]<ergonlogic>as for drush, do we want to keep 5.10 available?
[05:41:09]<ergonlogic>I mean, we've been waiting on that release, whereas if we're just going to drush6 anyway, why bother?
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[05:48:25]<anarcat>well, drush 6 isn't released yet isn't it?
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[05:57:45]<ergonlogic>anarcat: yes, it's at 6.1.0, now
[05:58:01]<anarcat>whaa
[05:58:03]<anarcat>wtf
[05:58:08]<anarcat>so then why did we need 5.10?
[05:58:27]<ergonlogic>that's what I'm asking myself
[06:00:02]<ergonlogic>I guess because we want to still support drush5
[06:00:09]<ergonlogic>and 5.9 was broken
[06:02:06]<ergonlogic>anarcat: so the debian package will just move to 6.1.0, then?
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[06:18:16]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i guess it should, if there aren't any "backwards compatibility reasons" to keep drush 5 around
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[06:18:48]<ergonlogic>none that I'm aware of...
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[07:21:41]<helmo>5.10 is also released: https://github.com/drush-ops/drush/issues/71
[07:23:36]<helmo>drush 6 was initially bailing out on php < 5.4 (thus being a problem on squeeze)... but I think that was lowerd to 5.3
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[07:25:51]<helmo>https://github.com/drush-ops/drush/blob/master/README.md ... 5.3.3+ is the minimum
[07:27:29]<ergonlogic>right
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[07:28:22]<ergonlogic>helmo anarcat: I've been looking at drush's bootstrapping, and I think I've found where we might store a list of enabled modules in the backend
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[07:28:43]<ergonlogic>I'd appreciate feedback on https://drupal.org/node/2098389#comment-7903859
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[07:36:13]<helmo>if we can cleanly adapt the bootstrap to exclude the 'disabled' modules ... :)
[07:37:10]<ergonlogic>helmo: well, that's just a method to list the enabled modules. the rest would work as you describe in drush_hook_load()'s
[07:38:36]<helmo>the bootstrap is a black spot.... I noticed the _load ran twice while testing my pseudo code
[07:39:44]<ergonlogic>probably once each time it's re-dispatched?
[07:40:49]<helmo>not sure... this was just a call to 'drush' showing the help
[07:41:19]<helmo>but now it's time for some sleep, more sprinting tomorrow morning
[07:42:02]<ergonlogic>yeah, the list commandfile function would be called once during _drush_bootstrap_drush(), and then again to list the help, I believe
[07:42:21]<ergonlogic>ok, I'll see if I can get this working
[07:46:06]<Aciid>heh I've also stumbled on this with drupal_goto not wrapped, so drush and aegir fails ;P
[07:47:04]<Aciid>can you skip drupal_goto with drush? that would help a lot when there are unmaintaned codebases which would still need copy/migrate operations from aegir
[07:48:48]<ergonlogic>Aciid: I'm not sure I understand...
[07:51:48]<Aciid>ergonlogic: http://paste.nerv.fi/preview/47752985 explained
[07:53:02]<Aciid>basically the same thing with having a whitelist of modules for operations on bootstrap would be benficial on reducing errors and load for operations
[07:53:39]<Aciid>some of our more complicated sites have +300 modules enabled and 500 available. So the tasks take somewhere in between 3-5minutes to complete excluding /private
[07:55:20]<Aciid>I have no issues, these were just my two cents to the topics covered :3
[07:55:24]<ergonlogic>Aciid: oh, I think I see... but we're talking about interrupting drush extensions from being invoked if their front-end module equivalent isn't enabled
[07:55:44]<ergonlogic>not the other way around, which is what I think you'd need
[07:56:52]<ergonlogic>I doubt there's any way for drush to selectively bootstrap just some of the modules on a site
[07:57:05]<Aciid>heh k
[07:57:24]<Aciid>though I saw some discussion about it whilst debugging a problem
[07:57:33]<Aciid>cant remember did they make some sort of a patch for that actually
[07:58:06]<ergonlogic>well, I ca see where it'd be useful
[07:58:11]<ergonlogic>can
[07:58:45]<ergonlogic>most of the problem I see are related to modules doing something ill-advised
[07:59:04]<ergonlogic>like declaring objects in the .module or the like
[08:00:14]<ergonlogic>from aegir's stand-point, I doubt we'd need anything beyond system.module and update.php
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[08:53:30]<mengi>For Aegir2-rc4, every time I do a restore I get a lot of 'Could not find version of the X module' but the restore still goes through...Is anyone else getting those messages on a restore?
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[08:59:17]<mengi>nevermind, just found a similar issue in provision's issue queue. I'll comment there
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[09:17:51]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i'll check that out tomorrow for sure, sprinting all day
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[09:26:07]<ergonlogic>anarcat: ok, I'll try to be available in he morning, which will be your afternoon, I guess
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