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[11:11:14]<ergonlogic>bgm: are you in London?
[11:11:28]<ergonlogic>bgm: let me know if I can help :)
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[16:18:14]<jopz>hi
[16:18:30]<jopz>is it possible to create aegir multi server
[16:18:36]<jopz>my synario is
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[16:18:56]<jopz>i have a drupal server with database running on a remote server
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[16:19:55]<jopz>how can i create multi server for my drupal site on aegir which have my sql db running on another server other than my drupal server
[16:23:01]<Aciid>jopz: http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/manual/manual-install-web-c...
[16:24:22]<jopz>let me check it
[16:24:25]<jopz>thsnks
[16:24:28]<jopz>thanks
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[16:42:51]<nicholasalipaz>when running drush provision-backup, is there any way to make the aegir frontend aware of the backups?
[16:43:00]<jopz>hi...
[16:43:32]<jopz>How to specify the ip address of remote mysql db server when we create multi server in aegir
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[17:09:26]<nicholasalipaz>found it, drush @hostmaster hosting-task @sitealias backup
[17:10:07]<nicholasalipaz>can't find much information on the hosting-task command unfortunately
[17:10:25]<nicholasalipaz>was hoping to be able to see if there is a second parameter to backup
[17:10:30]<nicholasalipaz>like a description
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[17:36:32]<bgm>ergonlogic: yep, london :)
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[17:47:44]<nicholasalipaz>welp, option to specify the backup description is not available from cli
[17:48:39]<nicholasalipaz>I ended up patching drush_hosting_task() by adding $task->task_args['description'] = drush_get_option('description', t('Generated on request')); now I can pass in --description="something" on the command line to fill that bit in on the frontend
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[18:05:06]<jopz>Hi I am getting an error while creating site using aegir multi server
[18:05:08]<jopz>Dummy connection failed to fail. Either your MySQL permissions are too lax, or the response was not understood. See http://is.gd/Y6i4FO for more information. ERROR at line 1: Unknown command '\('.
[18:05:17]<jopz>please help me out of this
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[18:15:14]<jopz>Drush was not able to start (bootstrap) the Drupal database. Hint: This error often occurs when Drush is trying to bootstrap a site that has not been installed or does not have a configured database. Drush was attempting to connect to : Drupal version : 7.20 Site URI : boost.assyst.in Database driver : mysql Database hostname : localhost Database username : boost Database name : boost Default theme : garland Administration theme: garland PHP configuration : /
[18:15:14]<jopz>etc/php5/cli/php.ini Drush version : 4.5 Drush configuration: /var/aegir/platforms/boost/drushrc.php Drush alias files : /var/aegir/.drush/boost.assyst.in.alias.drushrc.php /var/aegir/.drush/server_boost.alias.drushrc.php /var/aegir/.drush/server_master.alias.drushrc.php /var/aegir/.drush/platform_drupaltest.alias.drushrc.php /var/aegir/.drush/server_localhost.alias.drushrc.php /var/aegir/.drush/platform_hostmaster.alias.drushrc.php /var/aegir/.drush/self.ali
[18:15:15]<jopz>as.drushrc.php /var/aegir/.drush/hostmaster.alias.drushrc.php Drupal root : /var/aegir/platforms/boost Site path : sites/default Modules path : sites/all/modules Themes path : sites/all/themes File directory path: sites/default/files %paths : Array You can select another site with a working database setup by specifying the URI to use with the --uri parameter on the command line or $options['uri'] in your drushrc.php file.
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[19:58:18]<jopz>how to give remote publish path for creating aegir platform
[19:58:36]<jopz>i mean publish path on remote server
[19:59:13]<jopz>i want to create the platform on remote server not on aegir server
[19:59:26]<anarcat>you need to create a remote server first
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[20:56:08]<nicholasalipaz>what is the proper way to kickoff any particular hosting task from an aegir feature module?
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[20:57:42]<nicholasalipaz>like, I have an entry in hook_menu() and I want to run `drush @hostmaster hosting-task @sitename verify` whenever the page is accessed.
[20:57:50]<nicholasalipaz>but I don't want to resort to php exec.
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[20:59:52]<nicholasalipaz>is it to use drush_hosting_task_validate($id, $type = null);?
[21:00:27]<nicholasalipaz>I am not quite following what the documentation on the function is trying to say however.
[21:01:16]<nicholasalipaz>allow the user to run either a specific task by specifying a node id or chosen task type by specifying the type of task.
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[21:03:41]<nicholasalipaz>I am guessing that I can passing '@sitename' for the first parameter and 'verify' for the second?
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[21:21:17]<nicholasalipaz>well, I can't call that function from module
[21:21:24]<nicholasalipaz>undefined
[21:21:31]<nicholasalipaz>tried including it
[21:21:54]<nicholasalipaz>and then I get drush_set_option is undefined
[21:22:31]<nicholasalipaz>which I assume is unreachable as it is in drush
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[21:23:25]<nicholasalipaz>anyone who could help it would be greatly appreciated and I assume it should be really simple.
[21:23:54]<nicholasalipaz>I just need to kick off a task for a particular site programatically from a module.
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[21:36:40]<nicholasalipaz>got it
[21:36:42]<nicholasalipaz>hosting_add_task(174, 'verify');
[21:36:53]<nicholasalipaz>that did a verify on node with nid 174
[21:37:12]<nicholasalipaz>just need to figure out how to get nid from alias now
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[21:40:43]<nicholasalipaz>looks like a $node = node_load(array('title' => 'sitename')); should do it
[21:41:08]<nicholasalipaz>since sitename is the main domain
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[22:43:09]<omega8cc>messages?
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[02:31:13]<feldmand>While attempting to clone a drupal-7.22 site using Aegir running on a Linode, I encountered the following error. "Drush was not able to start (bootstrap) the Drupal database." How do I avoid this issue moving forward? More details can be found here: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-termination-unrecoverabl... Thanks.
[02:31:41]<spyd>if i update a single module in an existing platform, how do i get aegir to notice it? does it matter? (i see the module listed under the platform Packages tab with the old version number)
[02:32:11]<ergonlogic>spyd: verify the platform
[02:32:42]<ergonlogic>though, generally, it's suboptimal to update existing platforms
[02:32:47]<spyd>hrm, that's what i thought, but didn't work
[02:33:04]<feldmand>The database server is localhost. Also Aegir was functioning properly just a few weeks earlier, and no major system changes have been made since.
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[02:33:46]<spyd>ergonlogic: suboptimal how? i should instead rebuild the whole platform and migrate sites over?
[02:33:52]<ergonlogic>spyd: yes
[02:34:11]<ergonlogic>otherwise, you'll need to run update.php on all sites on the platform
[02:34:27]<ergonlogic>and you won't have an automatic rollback if anything goes wrong
[02:34:40]<spyd>oic- the migrate will do that for me, right
[02:34:58]<ergonlogic>spyd: what version of aegir?
[02:35:07]<spyd>so this leads to my next question- what kind of naming scheme do ppl use for platform dirs? cuz this seems to get messy quickly
[02:35:51]<spyd>ergonlogic: 2.0-rc4
[02:36:31]<ergonlogic>I like using a date: Open Atrium 2.0-beta4 (2013-09-10)
[02:36:44]<ergonlogic>which makes it crystal clear which is the most up-to-date
[02:36:51]<spyd>oh foo, nevermind re: module update- i goofed on which platform i was updating :P
[02:37:08]<ergonlogic>so the platform verify worked?
[02:37:08]<spyd>ergonlogic: yeah, i was thinking i'd need to introduce a datestamp (again)
[02:37:54]<ergonlogic>we also use a 'build' number sometimes for dev platforms
[02:38:21]<ergonlogic>it's a bug if the platform verify didn't pick up the new version
[02:38:36]<spyd>sec, running it again
[02:39:13]<spyd>yep, it worked :)
[02:39:17]<ergonlogic>feldmand: what version of Aegir are you on?
[02:39:26]<spyd>ergonlogic: thanks :)
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[02:39:39]<ergonlogic>ok, good :)
[02:39:59]<feldmand>ergonlogic: where do I see the version?
[02:40:17]<ergonlogic>try the modules page
[02:40:49]<ergonlogic>feldmand: or 'aptitude show aegir' or aptitude show aegir2'
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[02:44:05]<feldmand>ergonlogic: 'aptitude show aegir2' --> Version: 2.0~rc2
[02:44:42]<feldmand>ergonlogic: 'aptitude show aegir' --> appears not to be installed
[02:45:16]<ergonlogic>feldmand: it's a known bug in rc2
[02:45:31]<ergonlogic>you should upgrade to rc4
[02:45:48]<ergonlogic>and read the release notes, since it's a bit more involved than usual
[02:45:56]<feldmand>ergonlogic: are there any issues I need to be aware of during the upgrade?
[02:46:09]<ergonlogic>it's in the rel notes
[02:46:58]<feldmand>ergonlogic: ok. Good that is a known issue and in the release notes. Bad that it is more involved than usual.
[02:47:33]<ergonlogic>it's a 1-character change in the makefile
[02:47:43]<feldmand>ergonlogic: for a weekend warrior system admin such as myself, how much time should I plan?
[02:47:58]<ergonlogic>it's pretty trivial
[02:48:13]<ergonlogic>it shouldn't add more than a minute to the process
[02:48:21]<feldmand>ergonlogic: good to know. Thanks.
[02:49:10]<feldmand>ergonlogic: did this issue first appear just a few weeks ago?
[02:49:23]<ergonlogic>with the release of rc2
[02:50:35]<feldmand>ergonlogic: Thanks.
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[03:12:50]<spyd>minor bother: sometimes when i schedule a task, it's initial times comes and goes, and it gets rescheduled to the next minute (occasionally twice?)- what's up with that?
[03:16:37]<mvc>aegir checks the system load and postpones tasks as needed
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[03:17:44]<spyd>really? seems doubtful my system load is high enough to warrant this.. what's the logic it uses?
[03:18:56]<mvc>can't speak to that
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[03:19:32]<spyd>mvc: fair enuf- not a big deal, just made me curious :)
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[05:34:38]<ergonlogic>spyd: there's also a limit to how many tasks will get processed at a time. You should consider using the queue daemon, rather than relying on cron
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[06:04:47]<spyd>ergonlogic: how's that work? typically, on my small dev setup right now, i have no more than 2 tasks in the queue at a time..
[06:04:58]<spyd>and nothing else running on the server *at all*
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[07:11:10]<josh_k>so, I've been all ragey at MultiSite of late - but I'd like to do a follow-up post that highlights cases where it works
[07:11:25]<josh_k>anybody have particular cases I should look at?
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[07:16:14]<ergonlogic>josh_k: for my part, I don't really run into the problems you'd identified. But I suspect that's because we know to avoid those pitfalls.
[07:16:52]<josh_k>ergonlogic: can you give me any specifics?
[07:17:28]<josh_k>like, what the use-case is that you use multi-site for, or how you handle updates, or how you manage traffic spikes, etc
[07:17:59]<ergonlogic>well, multi-site is baked into Aegir, so we kinda always use it
[07:18:20]<ergonlogic>as in, we never use sites/default
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[07:18:53]<josh_k>gotcha; so all the koumbit sites are on aegir
[07:18:54]<ergonlogic>but I suppose we could have a single site on a platform, which would be pretty equivalent
[07:19:01]<ergonlogic>just about
[07:19:14]<ergonlogic>we also have a shared hosting environment
[07:19:40]<ergonlogic>where people can install arbitrary web apps
[07:20:04]<ergonlogic>but aegir makes managing lots of sites really easy
[07:20:13]<ergonlogic>so, there's little benefit there
[07:20:33]<ergonlogic>I'd have to re-read your article to answer specifics
[07:20:55]<josh_k>do you let your customers add their own code?
[07:21:18]<ergonlogic>not generally in our shared Aegir
[07:21:23]<josh_k>ok got it
[07:21:35]<josh_k>so it's more for providing "Drupal as a Service"
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[07:21:47]<ergonlogic>I suppose
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[07:22:00]<ergonlogic>it's largely in support of our internal Drupal dev team
[07:22:13]<ergonlogic>so hosting for our consulting clients
[07:22:34]<josh_k>ahhhh
[07:22:52]<josh_k>do you do a platform-per-client?
[07:23:02]<ergonlogic>not generally
[07:23:21]<josh_k>so the internal team is working on one codebase for many of the clients
[07:23:53]<ergonlogic>hang on, back in a couple minutes
[07:24:07]<josh_k>of course! thanks for the info
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