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| [03:20:36] | <chertzog> | ergonlogic: ping |
| [03:20:43] | <ergonlogic> | chertzog: pong |
| [03:21:27] | <chertzog> | ergonlogic: hey. i had a brief chat with gboudrias yesterday about email server management via aegir. |
| [03:21:42] | <ergonlogic> | yeah, I saw |
| [03:21:50] | <chertzog> | i wanted to see if you knew of any solutions for that or not |
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| [03:22:25] | <ergonlogic> | at Koumbit, we use a separate cpanel for email/dns called alternc |
| [03:22:36] | <ergonlogic> | nothing integrated though |
| [03:23:31] | <chertzog> | ok. as i had mentioned i have written a wrapper class around the rackspace email service, but thats not ideal |
| [03:23:51] | <ergonlogic> | $2/mth/addr is kinda steep |
| [03:23:57] | <chertzog> | yeah |
| [03:24:05] | <chertzog> | thus my search for alternatives |
| [03:24:18] | <ergonlogic> | I've been meaning to intregrate with opensrs for dns for awhile |
| [03:24:37] | <ergonlogic> | and their email pricing looks pretty reasonable: http://opensrs.com/site/services/email/pricing |
| [03:24:54] | <ergonlogic> | $0.50/mth/addr |
| [03:25:08] | <chertzog> | couldnt we create an "email server" the same way aegir uses database servers/web servers |
| [03:25:25] | <ergonlogic> | well, anything's possible :) |
| [03:25:38] | <ergonlogic> | we've been bouncing the idea around for years |
| [03:25:57] | <chertzog> | we would just need to pick a service, and write wrappers around it right? |
| [03:26:42] | <ergonlogic> | so are you still talking about external services? |
| [03:26:55] | <ergonlogic> | or a local email server? |
| [03:27:01] | <chertzog> | local |
| [03:27:15] | <chertzog> | i think ubuntu comes with postfix |
| [03:27:42] | <ergonlogic> | yeah, I think we even require an email server be installed... |
| [03:28:05] | <ergonlogic> | the thing is, we don't manage individual users on the drupal sites Aegir hosts |
| [03:28:19] | <ergonlogic> | but presumably we'd have to do something like that for emails |
| [03:28:37] | <ergonlogic> | then there's span filtering, etc. |
| [03:28:41] | <ergonlogic> | spam |
| [03:28:45] | <chertzog> | yeah |
| [03:33:32] | <ergonlogic> | I think ldap integration in D7 might help there |
| [03:33:54] | <ergonlogic> | to essentially de-couple the email mgmt itself |
| [03:39:04] | <noecc> | chertzog: There is drupal.org/project/mailfix (d6) but it cannot be used with Aegir as db info is captured in the .cf files. |
| [03:40:04] | <chertzog> | my main use case would have everything being managed via services |
| [03:40:32] | <chertzog> | so for me i would see the email stuff being mapped to the aegir client |
| [03:41:43] | <chertzog> | but my use case is each client maps to a single site |
| [03:41:54] | <chertzog> | i know thats not always the case with aegir |
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| [03:46:08] | <chertzog> | well opensrs has an api for managing email accounts... |
| [03:48:30] | <chertzog> | i think what im going to end up doing is setting up a server with whm/cpanel, and use their apis to manage emails |
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| [04:23:26] | <cweagans> | anarcat: hi :) |
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| [04:29:44] | <mstenta> | How do I get Aegir to pick up my custom platforms/*/sites/all/*.drush.inc file during a site verification? I have it working perfectly on another platform, but when I coped that *.drush.inc file to this platform, it doesn't get picked up and executed. Am I forgetting something? |
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| [04:30:47] | <mstenta> | I'm using hook_provision_apache_vhost_config() to add lines to the virtual hosts. |
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| [04:33:51] | <cweagans> | mstenta: drush cc drush? |
| [04:34:17] | <mstenta> | cweagans: that could be it! i'll give that a try... thanks |
| [04:34:26] | <cweagans> | No problem :) |
| [04:35:44] | <mstenta> | cweagans: that was it :-) |
| [04:35:52] | <cweagans> | Cool! :) |
| [04:36:15] | <cweagans> | Cool idea - have a drush.inc that adds lines to the virtualhost - I hadn't thought of that before :) |
| [04:36:59] | <mstenta> | cweagans: I think ergonlogic turned me on to that idea |
| [04:37:43] | <mstenta> | cweagans: works well, and you have the $uri in hook_provision_apache_vhost_config() to work with if you need to add stuff to specific sites |
| [04:38:05] | <mstenta> | cweagans: just return an array of lines you want added to the vhost in the function |
| [04:38:31] | <cweagans> | Totally. I've used that hook before - I just hadn't thought of putting a drush.inc in a platform to affect sites in that specific platform |
| [04:38:35] | <cweagans> | it's a great idea :) |
| [04:39:11] | <mstenta> | cweagans: here's mine... http://pastebin.com/ytumRQ9P -- i'm using it to fix an issue I had between Varnish and Open Atrium |
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| [04:46:47] | <cweagans> | ah, cool |
| [04:47:08] | <cweagans> | mstenta: I wonder if that could go into OpenAtrium 1.x? Not sure if mpotter would allow that or not, but you might ask :) |
| [04:47:16] | <cweagans> | It won't affect anyone except Aegir users |
| [04:47:37] | <cweagans> | Though, I do have to wonder…why is this just now becoming an issue? It seemed to work before..? |
| [04:47:58] | <mstenta> | cweagans: true... but it may only affect specific Varnish users too... in my case I am stripping cookies from all images in my VCL config file |
| [04:48:15] | <cweagans> | huh |
| [04:48:18] | <cweagans> | well that makes sense |
| [04:48:43] | <mstenta> | then in spaces_init(), when the image is loaded, from inside a certain space, it appears that i'm not logged in... so i don't have access to the space... regardless of what it is |
| [04:49:05] | <mstenta> | it's a bit heavy-handed of spaces to perform that access check, but i see it's purpose i guess |
| [04:50:26] | <mstenta> | so really, it only affects people who a) use Open Atrium, b) have it behind Varnish, and c) are stripping cookies from images |
| [04:50:41] | <mstenta> | but that's not that unusual either, i suppose |
| [04:50:53] | * cweagans doesn't strip cookies from images |
| [04:50:54] | <cweagans> | but |
| [04:50:57] | <cweagans> | probably should |
| [04:51:05] | * cweagans also doesn't care that much. |
| [04:51:09] | <mstenta> | :-) |
| [04:51:18] | <cweagans> | since it's only my personal stuff |
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| [06:16:30] | <churel> | Hello everyone. Is it possible to rename the aegir hostmaster site itself with aegir2.0 ? BEcause this tutorial doen't work (or I miss something) http://community.aegirproject.org/content/renaming-aegir-hostmaster-site... |
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| [07:45:23] | <mvc> | auugh, my client's sysadmin deleted /var/aegir/.ssh & /var/aegir/.drush ! |
| [07:45:52] | <mvc> | i'm assuming for now they have backups, if not, hopefully someone has tips on how to rebuild those :( |
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| [07:53:19] | <mvc> | ...found his backups ... whew |
| [07:54:12] | <cweagans> | mvc: In theory, you should have been able to just restore .drush/provision (and whatever plugins you had), then trigger a verify for everything. |
| [07:56:13] | <mvc> | yeah. but in practice i'm sure i would have had annoying problems to fix. |
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| [07:57:06] | <mvc> | i also lost some private keys in .ssh (someone created a new partition and did cp * so everything starting with . was missing) |
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| [07:58:35] | <mvc> | let's just say this sysadmin often reminds me how lucky i am to work with competent folks like anarcat & ergonlogic at koumbit :) |
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| [09:57:06] | <nicholasalipaz> | I am queuing up some tasks in aegir programmatically with hosting_add_task() |
| [09:57:17] | <nicholasalipaz> | however they are not executing in the order I add them |
| [09:57:31] | <nicholasalipaz> | is there a way to make them execute in order? |
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