| [11:03:41] | <Ogredude> | I don't recall, does aegir2 work with drush 6? |
| [11:05:06] | <realityloop> | yes |
| [11:05:17] | <realityloop> | assuming you mean 2.x branch |
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| [11:12:36] | <benhelps> | hey all. presenting options to boss for ecommerce systems. need to support single product range, of which different subsets are offered on diff shops (potentially on diff hosts), centrally managed so can talk to Unleashed or similar. I know I could go Magento but wondered if such could be achieved with Aegir+Commerce on Drupal. Does anyone know if Aegir supports Drupal Commerce package much? |
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| [11:27:08] | <Ogredude> | realityloop: yep |
| [11:27:43] | <cweagans> | benhelps: Sure, if you build an install profile that does what you want, Aegir can create a zillion sites. |
| [11:27:44] | <Ogredude> | benhelps: with quite a bit of struggling and fighting, I've got a customized commerce kickstart install on my aegir |
| [11:28:08] | <cweagans> | benhelps: the only thing is, you can't have an install profile with extra steps in the installer - it has to function exactly like the Standard profile |
| [11:31:17] | <Ogredude> | yeah, if there are any interactive forms in there, it's going to take the default values and proceed |
| [11:31:35] | <Ogredude> | I managed to get commerce kickstart to stop installing the demo store by using my makefile to bring it in as a profile, then apply a patch |
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| [11:43:58] | <Ogredude> | alright, I'm confused. I just tried to install 2.0-rc4 and it installed 2.0-rc2 |
| [11:44:35] | <cweagans> | Some of the version numbers aren't quite right |
| [11:44:45] | <cweagans> | There's a critical ticket in the queue right now to fix the build scripts |
| [11:44:54] | <cweagans> | so hopefully rc5 is more consistent :) |
| [11:45:11] | <Ogredude> | ah okay |
| [11:45:46] | <Ogredude> | oh I see |
| [11:46:06] | <Ogredude> | it wrote it into /var/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-2.0-rc4 and then later renamed that dir to rc2 |
| [11:48:42] | <Ogredude> | ok, the next step is to get the hosting-queued daemon into /etc/init.d and I'm not at all sure how to do that |
| [11:48:52] | <Ogredude> | short of copying the init.d script from my vagrant vm |
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| [11:52:41] | <Ogredude> | nevermind, I found it |
| [11:52:53] | <Ogredude> | ~/hostmaster-6.x-2.0-rc2/profiles/hostmaster/modules/hosting/queued |
| [11:54:30] | <benhelps> | sorry for delay; back |
| [11:54:41] | <benhelps> | thanks cweagans; Ogredude |
| [11:54:55] | <benhelps> | Ogredude: sounds more pain than it's worth |
| [11:55:09] | <cweagans> | benhelps: the installation profile? |
| [11:55:38] | <cweagans> | benhelps: it's not that difficult, and if you get it working correctly, you can spin up a site in like 10 seconds. It's pretty nice :) |
| [11:57:54] | <Ogredude> | benhelps: yeah, I just expect computers to work like they do in Star Trek :) |
| [11:58:13] | <Ogredude> | "Computer, reconfigure the jiggerypokery to the thingamabobber." *bleep* |
| [11:58:30] | <benhelps> | cweagans: more the whole process. compared to ubercart which i've used, drupal commerce looks confusing. and i'd have to design in our company's quirks into it. and confim aegir can centrally manage stock/sales across shop sites |
| [11:59:32] | <benhelps> | and handle bill of materials, packing specific items into specific boxes for freight, etc, etc |
| [12:00:33] | <benhelps> | not sure exactly where aegir leave off and becomes drupal commerce's problem to sole |
| [12:00:37] | <benhelps> | *solve |
| [12:02:24] | <Ogredude> | this is weird. I have no watchdog. |
| [12:04:14] | <cweagans> | Aegir won't do that. |
| [12:04:24] | <cweagans> | benhelps: the part where aegir ends is where the installer ends |
| [12:04:32] | <cweagans> | benhelps: you'd need another app to centrally manage stock and all that. |
| [12:04:56] | <benhelps> | cweagans: yeah, so unless drupal commerce can handle inventory/product range/sales across installs, drupal is out |
| [12:05:28] | <benhelps> | (without investing months/thousands to create modules) |
| [12:07:22] | <Ogredude> | cweagans: okay so this is weird. admin/reports/dblog takes me to the "Reports" screen and "Status report" is the only one available |
| [12:09:22] | <Ogredude> | trying to figure out why hosting-queued won't start, the readme points to the watchdog to look for errors |
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| [12:10:16] | <cweagans> | benhelps: you can't expect a generic commerce platform to do everything you want. Commerce can handle it - you just have to write the support for it. |
| [12:12:01] | <benhelps> | cweagans: mm, at great time/cost. Sad to say, Magento Community pretty much does what I want out of the box. As steep a learning curve as Drupal used to be, but can do it. Sad, cos my personal fave is Drupal |
| [12:12:50] | <benhelps> | *does what i want should be read as *is documented as being able to do what i want :P |
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| [12:49:28] | <Ogredude> | ok I had to http://community.aegirproject.org/content/allow-non-root-users-restart-a... |
| [12:49:35] | <Ogredude> | and correct where it was looking for drush |
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| [19:32:59] | <tdm4> | Aegir is running like 3 or 4 concurrent cron jobs (drush.php cron --backend) for a site.. how do I get it to run just one? |
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| [19:39:26] | <helmo> | tdm4: have a look at /admin/hosting/queues it defaults to 5 tasks per run |
| [19:39:49] | <tdm4> | thanks |
| [20:01:20] | <tdm4> | I don't understand why it would run 5 cron jobs for the same site |
| [20:01:24] | <tdm4> | surely 1 is enough |
| [20:01:36] | <tdm4> | why does aegir grind the cpu to a halt? Load goes up to like.. 5. |
| [20:01:57] | <tdm4> | there's no need to run drush cron 5 times concurrently |
| [20:02:15] | <tdm4> | it's like Aegir is DoSing itself |
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| [20:05:31] | <tdm4> | I don't think aegir is meant to run on a vm/cloud server. Seems to need dedicated metal. |
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| [20:55:13] | <helmo> | tdm4: A vm can be fine... mostly depends on the site your hosting on it |
| [20:55:46] | <helmo> | looking better at it... if it bothers you try changing the max_threads value in hosting_cron_hosting_queues() |
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| [21:03:01] | <tdm4> | why is drush being called 4 times on the same host? top was showing 4 drush.php calls with the same site |
| [21:03:18] | <tdm4> | ah well I can set it to web not drush.. maybe that will fix it. |
| [21:03:22] | <tdm4> | seems a bad bug |
| [21:06:40] | <tdm4> | doesn't seem very scalable.. especially if you have a lot of sites on it |
| [21:06:56] | <tdm4> | if it's bringing the machine to its knees with 5 sites, I can't imagine what 60 would do |
| [21:07:25] | <tdm4> | why does a cron need 5 threads per site? |
| [21:07:41] | <tdm4> | I thought calling drush once was enough? |
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| [21:12:33] | <tdm4> | https://drupal.org/node/623920 |
| [21:12:34] | <hefring> | https://drupal.org/node/623920 => check load before dispatching new tasks/crons [#623920] => Hosting, Code, normal, closed (fixed), 8 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [21:15:56] | <tdm4> | there's also this: https://drupal.org/node/695244 |
| [21:15:57] | <hefring> | https://drupal.org/node/695244 => hosting-cron killed my server [#695244] => Hosting, Code, normal, closed (fixed), 12 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [21:16:10] | <tdm4> | which looks similar to the behavior I'm experiencing though not quite as drastic as load of 170 |
| [21:16:54] | <tdm4> | I love how the issue is 'fixed' after 2 weeks of no activity :P |
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| [21:34:33] | <helmo> | tdm4: after 2 weeks is just a 'System Message' after being marked as fixed |
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| [21:38:36] | <helmo> | drush does spawn sub processess for all sorts of things... so a running migrate task could easily span 10 lines in the output of 'ps' |
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| [21:43:19] | <tdm4> | helmo: I know a migrate task can and that's fine.. I'm talking about cron jobs for drupal sites |
| [21:43:52] | <tdm4> | what happens if a cron job isn't finished in a few minutes? does Aegir try to run it again? |
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| [22:40:22] | <helmo> | it should not run again... there is some basic checking |
| [22:40:43] | <helmo> | have a look at hosting.queues.inc for all the details |
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| [23:28:22] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: log pointer? |
| [23:28:22] | <hefring> | http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2013-10-09#T434217 |
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| [23:35:23] | <ergonlogic> | tdm4: try using 'htop' in the tree view, as those multiple drush processes per site are probably just drush invoking itself in a subshell |
| [23:35:58] | <ergonlogic> | tdm4: are you saying that it's running cron on several sites simultaneously? |
| [23:36:39] | <ergonlogic> | if that's the case, it might be drush's default concurrency kicking in |
| [23:37:02] | <ergonlogic> | in which case, we should probably limit it to 1 |
| [23:38:10] | <ergonlogic> | tdm4: have you looked at https://drupal.org/project/hosting_advanced_cron? |
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| [00:10:35] | <chertzog> | goooooood moooooorning everybody!!! |
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| [00:44:14] | <kachaj7> | Hi I'm Łukasz from Poland:) |
| [00:44:31] | <kachaj7> | and have problem without I can go forward |
| [00:44:58] | <kachaj7> | I have installed aegir and aegir2 with success on ubuntu |
| [00:45:14] | <kachaj7> | but on debian only works aegir |
| [00:45:23] | <kachaj7> | aegir2 fails :( |
| [00:46:15] | <kachaj7> | did somebody installed aegir2 with success on debian? |
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| [00:54:49] | <notzach_> | on debian 7? |
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| [00:58:26] | <kachaj7> | I tried on debian 6 and 7 |
| [00:58:38] | <kachaj7> | I get the error with aegir-hostmaster2 |
| [00:59:19] | <kachaj7> | now I trying again to install when fails I paste the error to pastebin |
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| [01:01:02] | <kachaj7> | http://pastebin.com/5UE0dFYh |
| [01:02:15] | <kachaj7> | I made the same way with Ubuntu i there was working |
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| [01:14:56] | <kachaj7> | help? |
| [01:14:56] | <hefring> | http://community.aegirproject.org/help |
| [01:15:31] | <kachaj7> | help? |
| [01:15:31] | <hefring> | http://community.aegirproject.org/help |
| [01:20:47] | <ergonlogic> | kachaj7: it's a known bug in rc4. See: http://community.aegirproject.org/2.0-rc4 for a work-around |
| [01:26:30] | <kachaj7> | I have found the page, but my drush is in the path: /usr/share/php/drush/commands |
| [01:26:42] | <kachaj7> | and the I don't have the folder provision |
| [01:28:01] | <kachaj7> | sorry found |
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| [01:32:57] | <kachaj7> | thank you:D |
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| [01:46:57] | <helmo> | ergonlogic: anytime for an rc5 this week? |
| [01:47:40] | * cweagans hopes so :) |
| [01:53:10] | <ergonlogic> | sigh... I guess I'll make the time |
| [01:53:50] | <ergonlogic> | I need to get our tests fixed first, at very least |
| [01:55:51] | <ergonlogic> | fwiw, I'd lost a bunch of work I'd put into re-building our tests, because jenkins was being flaky |
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| [01:57:20] | <ergonlogic> | between that and the fact that I keep messing up releases, I've been wary of doing another one |
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| [01:58:11] | * ergonlogic figures it's about time to get back on the horse |
| [02:02:07] | <mstenta> | Hey quick question: I used provision-deploy to set up a new site in my local Aegir installation from a backup from my remote Aegir installation. But it doesn't create a site node in hostmaster? Did I go about this wrong? |
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| [02:02:45] | <mstenta> | I followed the directions here: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/importing-existing-aegir-backups |
| [02:03:13] | <mstenta> | Should I have created the site via hostmaster first? And then run provision-deploy to restore it from the backup? |
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| [02:03:48] | <mstenta> | And if so, is there any way to get there from here? Or should I delete the site from /sites manually, and the drush alias, and start fresh? |
| [02:08:41] | <ergonlogic> | mstenta: try hosting-import |
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| [02:10:46] | <mstenta> | ergonlogic: ah ok, thanks, will do |
| [02:10:54] | <mstenta> | still learning all the new drush commands :-) |
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| [02:14:19] | <mstenta> | ergonlogic: hmm, what's the syntax for that? I tried: "drush @hostmaster hosting-import @local.gordonanddenicola.com", which created a task in hostmaster called "Install local.gordonanddenicola.com"... but that failed with "PROVISION_SITE_INSTALLED" ... did I use hosting-import wrong? |
| [02:23:14] | <mstenta> | ergonlogic: nevermind, I just deleted and started again by installing from within hostmaster UI first |
| [02:23:34] | <ergonlogic> | that's how I usually do it |
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| [03:22:34] | <anarcat> | http://www.koumbit.org/en/articles/job-offer-web-developer |
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| [03:34:27] | <mstenta> | anarcat and ergonlogic: oh man! I just realized... I came up to Montreal for the first time recently... I should have stopped by and said hello! |
| [03:34:46] | <anarcat> | you should have! |
| [03:34:48] | <mstenta> | it was a pretty quick trip (basically just a weekend) - my fiance was attending a social work conference |
| [03:35:12] | <mstenta> | ah well... perhaps another time :-) |
| [03:37:02] | <anarcat> | anytime :) |
| [03:37:06] | <anarcat> | where are you based? |
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| [03:46:29] | <ergonlogic> | mstenta: sorry we missed each other |
| [03:46:40] | <mstenta> | anarcat: I'm in Philadelphia, PA |
| [03:46:49] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: you're still not back in Montreal yet, right? |
| [03:46:55] | <anarcat> | i am not |
| [03:47:05] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: weren't you and Matt just down there? |
| [03:47:52] | <anarcat> | we were, end of july |
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| [04:02:13] | <mvc> | mstenta: anarcat & i attended this conference: http://east.usworker.coop/ |
| [04:02:23] | <mvc> | nice city you've got there :) |
| [04:03:02] | <mstenta> | mvc: cool! yea, philly's pretty nice. i've been here about 3 years now. |
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| [04:14:51] | <spyd> | vsergnese: seems kinda like what we want, right? |
| [04:14:58] | <spyd> | sorry ww |
| [04:19:31] | <spyd> | right, so i'm imagining the base price is $308, and then we just +/- for non-regular fee categories |
| [04:19:36] | <spyd> | bah, sorry :( |
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| [04:52:19] | <noecc> | ergonlogic: just an fyi https://github.com/drush-ops/drush/issues/186 |
| [04:53:04] | <ergonlogic> | noecc: thanks |
| [04:53:11] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: ^^^ |
| [04:53:18] | <anarcat> | im in a meeting |
| [04:53:24] | <anarcat> | exec summary? :) |
| [04:54:18] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: drush 7 will drop support for drupal 6 |
| [04:54:41] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: but drush7 will be the first version to support drupal 8 |
| [04:54:50] | <anarcat> | craptastic |
| [04:55:02] | <anarcat> | do we support wordpress yet? :P |
| [04:55:05] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: anyway moshe is asking for feedback, but it can wait for you to be done with your meeting |
| [04:55:09] | * anarcat looking for a way out of PHP :P |
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| [04:55:29] | <ergonlogic> | wordpress is php :p |
| [04:55:50] | <ergonlogic> | which version of drush supports wordpress again?... |
| [04:56:53] | <anarcat> | drush 9 |
| [04:57:01] | <anarcat> | also known as the return of the jedi |
| [04:58:36] | <noecc> | backdrush? |
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| [05:34:15] | <mstenta> | haha |
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| [06:19:50] | <wroxbox> | bum. Hi all. WOndering what might be wrong when doing platform verification and it fails to message "The directory /var/aegir/platforms/drupal-7.23 does not contain a valid Drupal installation" ... Just drush dl drupal in var/aegir/platforms and all files are there, it is drupal. Aegir just dies when verifying that path as new platform. |
| [06:20:02] | <wroxbox> | "Drush could not bootstrap this platform. Please check the platform directory exists and is readable." |
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| [06:40:32] | <mstenta> | wroxbox: permissions are all ok on the files? |
| [06:41:06] | <wroxbox> | 755 for folders and 644 files? |
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| [08:28:28] | <cweagans> | Okay, so I have a question about file syncing: |
| [08:28:30] | <cweagans> | I have three servers |
| [08:28:33] | <cweagans> | one is running hostmaster |
| [08:28:41] | <cweagans> | the other two are in a web pack (both are web nodes) |
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| [08:28:54] | <cweagans> | on all three servers, my shared filesystem is mounted at /nfs |
| [08:29:25] | <cweagans> | on the hostmaster server, /var/aegir/platforms/myplatform/sites/sitename.com/files is a symlink to /nfs/sitename.com |
| [08:29:36] | <cweagans> | but when I verify the site and it's synced out to the other web heads |
| [08:29:54] | <cweagans> | it copies the contents of /nfs/sitename.com to web01:/var/aegir/platforms/myplatform/sites/sitename.com/files |
| [08:29:58] | <cweagans> | rather than just copying the symlink |
| [08:30:05] | <cweagans> | My question is: how do I make it stop doing this? |
| [08:30:13] | <cweagans> | I just want it to copy the symlink. |
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| [09:49:26] | <cweagans> | anarcat: ping/pm? |
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