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[23:46:51]<Morbus>G’day. Using Aegir 1.9, and tried to create a site named a-b-c.com.
[23:47:19]<Morbus>The install gave one error due to a missing IP for the SSL certificate.
[23:47:29]<Morbus>I’ve since fixed that, but any attempt to run a verify or a delete on the site gives:
[23:47:42]<Morbus>Drush command terminated abnormally due to an unrecoverable error. Error: Unsupported operand types in /usr/share/pear/drush/includes/environment.inc, line 925
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[00:01:34]<Morbus>if i force delete the site nodes and try installing again, i get PROVISION_SITE_INSTALLED on the new site creation install task.
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[00:22:00]<mstenta>Morbus: did you delete the site files and databases?
[00:22:09]<mstenta>Morbus: and drush alias file?
[00:22:24]<mstenta>Morbus: i think aegir checks all those first
[00:23:09]<Morbus>yeah, that’s what i had to do.
[00:23:16]<Morbus>Deleted drush file, deleted sites directory, deleted the node.
[00:23:26]<Morbus>It never got to the database part, cos it blew up when there was no IP to assign.
[00:23:39]<Morbus>Which was the cause of the original error - the $db_url wasn’t parsing properly cos the data didn’t exist.
[00:23:44]<Morbus>So I think I’m good at the moment.
[00:23:49]<Morbus>mstenta: thanks for responding.
[00:24:00]<mstenta>Morbus: np :-)
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[03:28:10]<ergonlogic>bgm: ping
[03:28:41]<bgm>ergonlogic: pong
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[03:29:37]<ergonlogic>bgm: hi, I'm trying to evaluate CiviCRM as a membership back-end for an Aegir-based SaaS service
[03:30:11]<ergonlogic>bgm: I think CiviContribute/CiviMember will do most of what we need
[03:30:16]<ergonlogic>but I had 2 questions
[03:30:37]<ergonlogic>bgm: is CiviCase useable as a ticketing system, along the lines of RT?
[03:31:12]<ergonlogic>bgm: is there a good Canadian recurring payments solution?
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[03:31:59]<bgm>ergonlogic: paypal pro, netbanx and moneris are good recurring solutions. Netbanx is probably the most interesting (via Desjardins), but i haven't tested it yet for recurring.
[03:32:30]<bgm>ergonlogic: as for civicase, it's a bit overkill for your requirements, and might require some hacking
[03:32:51]<bgm>civi supports processing of incoming mail, to create activities in civicrm, linked to a contact record
[03:33:04]<bgm>but never really tested it with civicase, since not sure if the system would not to which case it refers
[03:33:06]<ergonlogic>bgm: ok, but there's inbound email -> activity mapping, if I understand correctly
[03:33:10]<bgm>yep
[03:33:33]<bgm>but the inbound processing would need to know to which case it refers
[03:33:45]<bgm>and not sure civi supports that
[03:34:00]<ergonlogic>maybe we could have a 'support' case per client?
[03:35:04]<bgm>it would be a bit of a hack, but some people may have solutions that could do a big part of it
[03:35:55]<ergonlogic>I'll ask over in #civicrm
[03:36:00]<ergonlogic>bgm: thanks!
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[03:36:21]<bgm>i like the idea though :)
[03:36:37]<bgm>and i've been thinking of moving my time-tracking to civicrm, since most of the blocks are there already
[03:36:50]<bgm>(well, some people are working on it already, but it's not ready yet.. part of CiviHR)
[03:37:18]<ergonlogic>right
[03:38:00]<bgm>but civi kind of insists of staying non-profit oriented, so if your use-case sounds too much business-oriented, it might meet some resistance :)
[03:38:11]<bgm>but for civicase, i think there's a non-profit use-case for it :)
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[03:39:18]<cweagans>ergonlogic: Stripe works in Canada now, too - and they have really solid recurring support.
[03:41:20]<bgm>cool, time to ditch paypal :)
[03:41:38]<bgm>hah, since sept 2012, had not heard about that
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[03:42:36]<anarcat>what a nightmare this shit is
[03:42:37]<anarcat>https://wiki.koumbit.net/ServicePaiementEnLigne#Installation_et_configur...
[03:42:41]<anarcat>https://wiki.koumbit.net/SolutionsDePaiementClient
[03:45:55]<cweagans>Welcome back to North America, anarcat :)
[03:48:04]<bgm>anarcat: haha.. well.. for having worked on that page.. online payment is .. complicated to say the least :)
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[03:52:43]<ergonlogic>bgm: re. non-profit/for-profit, I understand, but I think it'd be very cool to have a hosting platform for Civi that used Civi to support hosting clients
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[03:53:34]<ergonlogic>and I'm not in the habit of asking for more from the community than I'm willing to give back
[03:53:38]<ergonlogic>generally
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[03:55:03]<bgm>i'll ping xavier of civicoop about it
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[03:55:44]<bgm>he did a cool/crazy/will-make-anarcat-segfault thing with civi: plugging it with a nodeJS ldap server, so that you can access your contacts outside civi :)
[03:56:52]<bgm>& you can plug webforms in there, to make nice support forms that link in with civi
[03:57:15]<bgm>(& webform_civicrm supports online payments, so you can make really simple payment forms)
[03:57:28]<ergonlogic>oh, sweet!
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[04:45:34]<anarcat>christefano: thanks :)
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[04:47:08]<anarcat>er
[04:47:12]<anarcat>cweagans: ^
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[04:50:30]<cweagans>:)
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[05:06:54]<anarcat>bgm: i did segfault on that nodejs ldap server
[05:07:07]<anarcat>bgm: please don't mention it again, we had to mop the floor in the office again
[05:07:08]<anarcat>;)
[05:09:38]<bgm>:)
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[06:05:23]<hefring>Git => Issue #2099057 by cweagans, danquah, ergonlogic: Allow skipping chmod and chgrp on... => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/f78effaaa5b3ff220...
[06:05:23]<hefring>Git => Issue #2103173: Provide an example of saving data to a site context. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/caae02ef76ed8c2ef...
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[07:07:58]<helmo>ergonlogic: puppet-aegir/tests/functional_tests/aegir2-dev/nodes.pp has a typo // instead of # ... I would have fixed it if I had access ;)
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[07:08:59]<helmo>hefring: tell ergonlogic: puppet-aegir/tests/functional_tests/aegir2-dev/nodes.pp has a typo // instead of # ... I would have fixed it if I had access ;)
[07:08:59]<hefring>helmo: I'll pass that on when ergonlogic is around.
[07:09:43]<ergonlogic>helmo: ah, right sorry
[07:09:43]<hefring>ergonlogic: 44 sec ago <helmo> tell ergonlogic: puppet-aegir/tests/functional_tests/aegir2-dev/nodes.pp has a typo // instead of # ... I would have fixed it if I had access ;)
[07:09:51]<ergonlogic>I'll grant you access now
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[07:10:43]<ergonlogic>helmo: ok, try now
[07:11:39]<cweagans>ergonlogic: helmo: is there anything that I can do to help get rc5 out the door?
[07:11:46]<cweagans>and anarcat for that matter: ^
[07:12:19]<hefring>Git => Issue #1635628: Do not talk about a makefile if installing over an existing platform. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/4dabe5c53e5bf8d72...
[07:13:34]<ergonlogic>cweagans: well, test installing and upgrading to HEAD, I guess
[07:13:56]<cweagans>is that the only blocker?
[07:14:14]<ergonlogic>I've just finished reviewing most open issues that have seen any action since rc4
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[07:14:24]<anarcat>cweagans: https://drupal.org/node/2023113
[07:14:24]<hefring>https://drupal.org/node/2023113 => [meta] 2.0 release [#2023113] => Hostmaster (Aegir), Miscellaneous, normal, active, 15 comments, 1 IRC mention
[07:14:31]<ergonlogic>and we have a .deb for drush 5.10
[07:14:43]<ergonlogic>so I figure we'll be able to get rc5 out tomorrow
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[07:15:00]<cweagans>awesome :)
[07:15:01]<ergonlogic>I'll probably start drafting the rel notes now
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[07:16:18]<cweagans>ergonlogic: one thing I did notice was this: https://github.com/drush-ops/drush/issues/71#issuecomment-26353599
[07:16:28]<cweagans>That might be a small blocker
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[07:18:00]<ergonlogic>cweagans: well, it'll work under 5.9, just lacking some output in the logs
[07:18:05]<cweagans>ah, okay
[07:18:06]<cweagans>cool
[07:18:39]<ergonlogic>and the pear channel must have drush6, so it's a bit of an edge-case
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[07:20:07]<cweagans>Yeah, it definitely does have drush 6 - if you want to give me a quick overview of 5.10 vs 6.x, I can write up something for the release notes
[07:20:29]<ergonlogic>anarcat helmo: I think the only real blockers for a full 2.0 are all related to our release process
[07:20:31]<cweagans>(i.e. what do you lose by going to 6.x instead of staying with 5.x?)
[07:23:39]<ergonlogic>cweagans: here are some relevant issues:
[07:23:42]<ergonlogic>#1991764
[07:23:52]<ergonlogic>make that: http://drupal.org/node/1991764
[07:23:53]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1991764 => Support using a distribution as core [#1991764] => Drush, Make, normal, closed (fixed), 14 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[07:24:10]<ergonlogic>http://drupal.org/node/2025527
[07:24:11]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/2025527 => > `tty` is evil and killed my cat [#2025527] => Drush, Base system (internal API), critical, closed (fixed), 28 comments, 1 IRC mention
[07:24:59]<ergonlogic>#1982502
[07:25:07]<ergonlogic>http://drupal.org/node/1982502
[07:25:08]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1982502 => Reduce complexity of backend invoke; consider removing concurrency [#1982502] => Drush, Base system (internal API), normal, closed (won't fix), 86 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[07:26:12]<ergonlogic>cweagans: ... hmm, sorry those are 5.9->5.10 changes...
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[07:27:18]<ergonlogic>cweagans: so, far the only thing I'm particularly interested in Drush 6 for is #2031383 by ergonlogic: Added Provide weight-like mechanism to ensure order of hook calls.
[07:27:51]<ergonlogic>which allows for more complex usage of drush hooks
[07:28:22]<cweagans>Ah, right. Well that's cool :)
[07:28:25]<ergonlogic>like ensuring that 3 post hooks fire in the proper sequence
[07:28:42]<cweagans>So what happens if the release notes recommend updating to Drush 6, then? Do people lose support for anything?
[07:29:40]<ergonlogic>not that I'm aware of
[07:29:50]<cweagans>So should we recommend just updating, then?
[07:30:07]<helmo>cweagans: I'm even using Drush 7-dev on one server ... seems to work fine
[07:30:15]<ergonlogic>both work on php 5.3 now... wich was a major blocker for us moving to 6
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[07:30:50]<helmo>indeed aegir2 should be able to work with drush 6 ... and I think it does
[07:31:48]<cweagans>done. https://drupal.org/node/2112615
[07:31:48]<hefring>https://drupal.org/node/2112615 => Bump minimum drush requirement to 6.x [#2112615] => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[07:31:57]<helmo>ergonlogic: thanks for the puppet-aegir access .. first commit done ... now a new build error http://ci.aegirproject.org/view/Puppet/job/P_Aegir_Puppet_Module_functio...
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[07:33:18]<ergonlogic>helmo: I think the problem is [default] VM already created. Booting if it's not already running...
[07:33:38]<ergonlogic>since we don't have the jenkins vagrant plugin anymore
[07:34:00]<ergonlogic>we need to ensure we destroy the vm
[07:34:51]<helmo>cweagans: +1 ... the issue has some overlap with https://drupal.org/node/2002804
[07:34:52]<hefring>https://drupal.org/node/2002804 => [meta] depend on Drush 8.x-6.x? [#2002804] => Hostmaster (Aegir), Miscellaneous, normal, active, 16 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[07:50:18]<ergonlogic>helmo: we might also need to set a unique ssh forwarded port... not sure though
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[07:51:24]<helmo>ok.
[07:51:52]<helmo>first its time for bed though
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[09:35:21]<anarcat>http://anarcat.koumbit.org/2013-10-15-drupalcon-prague-report-back
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