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| [16:01:22] | <realityloop> | has anyone here recently setup aegir on linux and can tell me how long it generally takes? |
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| [20:05:53] | <KW|Websystem> | realityloopAFK, It depends on how good you are at Linux. It is a apt-get packages. So if the automaticcly setup works as is should do it take like 5-15min. |
| [20:06:49] | <KW|Websystem> | Just follow this: |
| [20:06:50] | <KW|Websystem> | http://community.aegirproject.org/content/content/administrator/post-ins... |
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| [23:48:47] | <boshtian> | I have a question about Aegir that I can't find the answer on community site. Is it possible to have same domain name on different servers? |
| [23:51:53] | <solomon> | no i think |
| [23:52:48] | <solomon> | but u can have the same resources o n different.. |
| [23:53:15] | <boshtian> | We have a case where we have 'dev' server where Aegir is installed. Then we have a production server and recently we added new production server. We will migrate some of those sites on new server, but try to avoid down-time. Idea is to have www.domain.com on prod1, than clone it to www.domain.com on prod2 and after test, change DNS records on domain. Hope I was clear. |
| [23:54:29] | <boshtian> | The problem is TTL on DNS - if we migrate site from prod1 -> prod2 the DNS will still be pointing to prod1 and site will not work. |
| [23:55:12] | <boshtian> | Until the DNS will refresh - but this can take some time. |
| [23:56:17] | <boshtian> | So we are now looking for some kind of solution. |
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| [00:08:46] | <batfastad> | Hi everyone. Is there any way to view the apache server-status in Aegir? I've tried manually adding a <Location directive to the aegir server's vhost but it's not being interpreted |
| [00:09:47] | <batfastad> | I've found this topic https://drupal.org/node/600900 but there doesn't appear to be an official method listed anywhere |
| [00:09:48] | <hefring> | https://drupal.org/node/600900 => platform Rewrite rules break other apache Location directives. [#600900] => 8 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [00:10:37] | <noecc> | boshtian: This may help http://community.aegirproject.org/content/migrate-sites-one-aegir-another |
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| [00:19:35] | <batfastad> | So Aegir caches by default. Anyone know where the cache files are stored? |
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| [00:23:37] | <boshtian> | noecc: thank you for this, I didn't find this on community site. I will check and hope we can do similar solution. |
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| [01:42:02] | <helmo> | hefring: seen anarcat |
| [01:42:02] | <hefring> | anarcat was last seen in #aegir 3 days 20 hours ago saying 'there aren't that many changes between the two, and it will be hard to synchronise'. |
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| [02:33:30] | <anarcat> | hey hefring |
| [02:33:30] | <hefring> | anarcat: 3 days 4 hours ago <helmo> tell anarcat: can you do https://drupal.org/comment/8399103#comment-8399103 of get me the twitteraccount details ;) |
| [02:33:31] | <anarcat> | er |
| [02:33:33] | <anarcat> | helmo: |
| [02:33:43] | <anarcat> | sorry for the delay, last 2 weeks were insane |
| [02:36:42] | <anarcat> | helmo: i created an account |
| [02:40:13] | <anarcat> | 3https://www.gittip.com/aegirproject/ |
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| [02:53:51] | <Aciid> | anarcat: can I tip with doge |
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| [02:54:33] | <anarcat> | Aciid: say again? |
| [02:54:37] | <Aciid> | dogecoins |
| [02:54:53] | <anarcat> | i have no idea |
| [02:54:59] | <Aciid> | have you not been watching the news :< |
| [02:55:06] | <Aciid> | we sent the jamaican bobsled team to the olympics |
| [02:56:03] | <anarcat> | ....what |
| [02:56:25] | <Aciid> | http://rt.com/news/jamaica-sochi-bobsleigh-russia-961/ |
| [02:56:39] | <Aciid> | it's like bitcoin but well it's dogecoin, and it's value is $0.00018 :D |
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| [03:15:27] | <cweagans> | anarcat: you going to be around in ~45 min? I've got two things to talk to you about: Weird SSL/IP allocation issues + storing Drupal files somewhere other than the default (this is a contrib thing I'm working on, but I can't get it to work just right) |
| [03:15:38] | <cweagans> | if you don't have time, it's cool - just thought I'd ask :) |
| [03:15:44] | <anarcat> | i'll be around yes |
| [03:15:49] | <anarcat> | but i'm quite busy these days |
| [03:16:32] | <cweagans> | Ah, I see. Perhaps I can file some issues then - I'm just not sure where to go, and I was hoping maybe you'd have some brilliant insight that completely unblocks everything :) |
| [03:17:36] | <anarcat> | that may happen |
| [03:17:43] | <anarcat> | opening an issue always makes sharing info easier :) |
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| [03:22:10] | <cweagans> | anarcat: Okie dokie :) The big thing is this - https://gist.github.com/cweagans/8ca1c482c06763d88a24. I'm trying to build an aegir extension that will allow people to store site files somewhere else (for instance, on a shared filesystem that's mounted on all web servers). I've been doing this by altering the directories that are created during the install process, and then making symlinks where necessary. However, when the symlinks are |
| [03:22:10] | <cweagans> | rsync'd out to the web servers, they aren't symlinks on the other end anymore. The flags needed to do this are already being set for drush rsync, so I opted to sidestep the issue and just issue commands on the remote servers, but that doesn't seem to be working - the symlinks aren't created on the remote server under either circumstance, so I'm kind of stumped. |
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| [03:22:29] | <cweagans> | I can file an issue though :) |
| [03:22:56] | <anarcat> | have you tried the pack modules? |
| [03:23:08] | <cweagans> | I'm using the pack module :) |
| [03:23:17] | <anarcat> | ah |
| [03:23:34] | <cweagans> | thing is, the shared filesystem is mounted at /afs/something/path/to/123, where 123 is the site nid in the aegir frontend |
| [03:23:36] | <anarcat> | well with the pack module you can just have /var/aegir/platforms on the NFS server, no? |
| [03:23:46] | <anarcat> | that's the way we do it here |
| [03:23:52] | <anarcat> | otherwise pack just won't work |
| [03:24:12] | <cweagans> | It has to be individual volumes for each site - right now, I'm using pack with all servers in master mode |
| [03:24:29] | <cweagans> | which basically works the same as the cluster module |
| [03:24:31] | <anarcat> | that's weird |
| [03:24:39] | <anarcat> | why use cluster or pack at all then |
| [03:24:56] | <anarcat> | if they are all master |
| [03:25:02] | <cweagans> | Mainly for pushing out the apache configuration |
| [03:25:05] | <cweagans> | to remote servers |
| [03:25:13] | <anarcat> | that will work with a regular remote server as well |
| [03:25:20] | <anarcat> | no need for cluster or pack |
| [03:25:21] | <cweagans> | there's like three servers that are behind a load balancer |
| [03:25:26] | <cweagans> | so it all has to stay in sync |
| [03:25:35] | <anarcat> | hum |
| [03:25:37] | <anarcat> | i see |
| [03:25:45] | <anarcat> | so you should use cluster, that's for sure |
| [03:25:58] | <anarcat> | i suggest you first treat this as a non-remote-server case |
| [03:26:06] | <anarcat> | and try to implement what you want there |
| [03:26:14] | <anarcat> | then go single remote server case (no cluster/pack) |
| [03:26:17] | <anarcat> | then go cluster |
| [03:26:27] | <anarcat> | when it breaks, you'll have a clearer idea of the problem |
| [03:26:38] | <anarcat> | and of course, post a feature request for this specific use case |
| [03:26:46] | <cweagans> | It works well on single server - where hostmaster and the provisioned site are all on the same server |
| [03:26:55] | <cweagans> | it's just not syncing the symlink out to the remote server |
| [03:27:08] | <anarcat> | understood |
| [03:27:17] | <anarcat> | well, i think that may be the pack module |
| [03:27:25] | <anarcat> | by design, it won't sync sites |
| [03:27:27] | <anarcat> | you want cluster |
| [03:27:31] | <anarcat> | or single remote server |
| [03:27:38] | <anarcat> | see if it works on a single remote server (no cluster) |
| [03:27:40] | <anarcat> | then test cluster |
| [03:28:00] | <cweagans> | Hrm. Okie dokie - I'll give that a go. Is there an easy way to transition between pack and cluster? |
| [03:28:08] | <cweagans> | we have production sites running on this :( |
| [03:30:49] | <anarcat> | no. |
| [03:30:54] | <anarcat> | not that i know of |
| [03:30:59] | <anarcat> | although hum |
| [03:31:23] | <anarcat> | you may be able to remove the "pack" master server and create a "custer" master server with the slaves |
| [03:31:28] | <anarcat> | you may have to unassign the slaves first |
| [03:31:36] | <anarcat> | everything could explode however |
| [03:32:03] | <cweagans> | Specifically for that gist I posted - is there any reason that shouldn't work? |
| [03:32:13] | <cweagans> | Everything else is working already - copying sites out to the master servers and all that |
| [03:32:16] | <mvc> | OT: one of these days we'll find better terminology than "master" & "slave" :( |
| [03:32:34] | <anarcat> | mvc: i thought of using primary and secondary, but that assumes equality - those servers are not equal |
| [03:33:02] | <anarcat> | cweagans: i would assume this wouldn't work because the platforms themselves aren't sync'd by the pack |
| [03:33:03] | <mvc> | clone? copy? |
| [03:33:16] | <anarcat> | mvc: they are not clones |
| [03:33:19] | <anarcat> | nor copies |
| [03:33:22] | <anarcat> | they are empty copies |
| [03:33:46] | <cweagans> | They are, though - the platforms and sites do live on the remote servers because the remote servers are master servers |
| [03:33:53] | <mvc> | yeah. i don't have a better suggestion. and it's standard usage in IT... |
| [03:34:38] | <mvc> | not an aegir-specific bug :) anyways, sorry for changing the topic |
| [03:34:39] | <anarcat> | cweagans: well, that's just really weird :P |
| [03:34:46] | <anarcat> | mvc: perfectly fine |
| [03:34:53] | <anarcat> | mvc: i was trying to find a trace of the reflexion i had about this |
| [03:35:14] | <anarcat> | i had discussions with dkg about such vocabulary, there's also "blacklist" which has racist undertones |
| [03:35:26] | <anarcat> | it's quite fascinating, and hard to get out of |
| [03:35:34] | <cweagans> | There's a bit of stuff at the top of Provision_Service_http_pack I think :) |
| [03:35:44] | <cweagans> | about wording |
| [03:36:46] | <anarcat> | ah yes, there |
| [03:37:13] | <anarcat> | http://api.aegirproject.org/api/aegir/provision3!http!Provision!Service!...\ |
| [03:38:09] | <cweagans> | Anyways - I'll set up another set of servers and see if I can replicate my problem with the cluster module. If not, I will have found my solution. If I can, I'll write the details and post them on an issue. |
| [03:38:31] | <cweagans> | I'll try to get some details together about the SSL/IP allocation stuff too |
| [03:39:29] | <anarcat> | understood |
| [03:39:41] | <cweagans> | short version: I have a wildcard cert for *.myclient.edu, which is deployed to all servers, but Aegir is only allowing me to have one site on each server using that certificate regardless of the domain. If I try to provision site2.myclient.edu on the same server, it just redirects to site1.myclient.edu |
| [03:39:56] | <cweagans> | and spews some warnings about not being provided an IP address in the install log |
| [03:40:58] | <anarcat> | yeah, i saw similar problems here, except that all the sites get that |
| [03:41:04] | <anarcat> | so no slaves actually get the ip :( |
| [03:41:10] | <anarcat> | but it works because of SNI |
| [03:41:23] | <anarcat> | i have to test such a deployment here tomorrow, i may be able to fix that for you soon enough |
| [03:41:26] | <anarcat> | but please open a bug report |
| [03:41:30] | <anarcat> | if there isn't one already |
| [03:41:44] | <cweagans> | Excellent - I'll find or open one |
| [03:41:49] | <cweagans> | and post lots of detail :) |
| [03:42:09] | <cweagans> | Thanks so much for your help! We're still working on funding internally, btw - it's been a long uphill battle |
| [03:42:24] | <anarcat> | understood, and nice to hear that :) |
| [03:42:30] | <anarcat> | we need all the help we can get! |
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| [05:14:51] | <helmo> | anarcat: thanks, and yes please |
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| [07:02:55] | <Captain_Haddock> | [Mon Jan 27 19:58:13.185075 2014] [authz_core:error] [pid 3509] [client 192.168.56.1:1174] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /var/aegir |
| [07:03:40] | <Captain_Haddock> | I can't access aegir after install in a saucy install. Logs give me the above error. |
| [07:05:43] | <Captain_Haddock> | The installation of Aegir using the Debian packages has not been smooth. It does not appear to be aware of the changes in the /etc/apache2 directory structure. |
| [07:17:07] | <helmo> | Captain_Haddock: https://drupal.org/node/2155705 |
| [07:17:08] | <hefring> | https://drupal.org/node/2155705 => [meta] Support Ubuntu Saucy [#2155705] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [07:18:47] | <helmo> | This unfortunately has not goten mush attetion |
| [07:19:28] | <Captain_Haddock> | Thanks helmo. Reading. |
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| [07:29:44] | <Captain_Haddock> | Well back I go to the LTS. |
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| [09:32:38] | <realityloop> | ergonlogic: ping |
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| [10:28:02] | <realityloop> | anarcat ergonlogic: I'm getting errors when trying to install provision and hostmaster about the md5 being incorrect, any suggestions? |
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