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[02:21:52]<jonpugh>Travis-ci is my new best friend... It's not easy being green!
[02:22:00]<jonpugh>https://github.com/drupal-devshop/devshop
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[06:50:27]<chertzog>hows everyone doing?
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[07:06:35]<gboudrias>chertzog: Great, you? :p
[07:06:51]<chertzog>pretty good.
[07:07:51]<chertzog>been messing with aegir 3 on D7. ive got a SAAS setup working via hosting_services
[07:08:43]<gboudrias>chertzog: Yeah I just got the drush vagrant blueprint working on my laptop, it's pretty cool
[07:09:24]<chertzog>ive posted a number of patches for the D7 version of hosting that cleans up a lot of errors
[07:09:35]<chertzog>they are mostly in the hosting issue queue
[07:10:26]<gboudrias>Awesome
[07:13:39]<chertzog>im trying to get some money together to sponsor some time for the aegir core maintainers to get some of the D7 stuff tested and committed, but its a little slow going. contributing 100/wk right now
[07:14:24]<gboudrias>Well I'm going to try and help :)
[07:14:57]<gboudrias>I got the first step down, and I thought that would take a lot longer
[07:15:21]<chertzog>im great on the front end of things (hosting), but provision kind of scares me
[07:15:55]<gboudrias>Provision scares everyone :P
[07:16:19]<chertzog>lol
[07:18:29]<chertzog>is anyone from the aegir team going to drupalcon austin?
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[07:21:16]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: ^
[07:21:34]<ergonlogic>chertzog: I'm hoping to
[07:21:34]<hefring>ergonlogic: 23 hours 57 min ago <realityloop> tell ergonlogic should I be using other drush commands to set these straight after hostmaster install? (this doesn't appear to be working) http://pastebin.com/3mAH0V4Y
[07:21:56]<chertzog>i would love to go. it would be my first drupalcon
[07:22:35]<ergonlogic>I need to propose a session or two...
[07:34:57]<chertzog>anyone in the aegir world hiring?
[07:35:09]<drastik-jw>ergonlogic: Ya, this is a problem: https://austin2014.drupal.org/sessions/proposed?field_experience_value=A...
[07:36:42]<ergonlogic>alright, I guess I know what I'm doing next week...
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[07:55:17]<chertzog>can someone explain the connection (if there is one) between praxis labs and koumbit?
[07:56:48]<anarchat>we are partners
[07:57:04]<anarchat>that is, praxis is a partner of koumbit, and workers in praxis are all current or ex members of koumbit
[07:57:43]<chertzog>can you explain how the organization works? i find it to be an interesting setup
[07:58:04]<anarchat>i would love to, at another time - i'm in a crunch right now :)
[07:58:11]<anarchat>it's a way for koumbit to scale, basically
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[08:13:36]<chertzog>2 part question. can nginx be used as the web server as well as the reverse proxy? and if so, is there any benefit to that vs bringing varnish into the mix
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[08:17:36]<gboudrias>chertzog: It's feasible, but you'll probably have to configure Aegir so that it doesn't have all "server blocks"
[08:17:39]<gboudrias>(vhosts)
[08:18:11]<gboudrias>chertzog: The benefit is that you have less moving pieces (ie less chances of something breaking)
[08:18:47]<gboudrias>Varnish is supposedly extremely efficient at caching, but I don't know how much more efficient you can get at static HTML than nginx
[08:19:07]<gboudrias>In short: It's worth a shot for sure, but also worth testing the alternative :)
[08:19:16]<gboudrias>And it's worth documenting too
[08:20:12]<chertzog>yeah. maybe a weekend project.
[08:20:26]<chertzog>will need to port the hosting_varnish module to D7
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[09:02:08]<drastik-jw>chertzog: I've seen a couple comparisons where, if configured correctly, double nginx stacks (native caching, web->php) are faster (while using less resources) than using Varnish as the cache
[09:02:40]<chertzog>im working on testing it out now
[09:02:43]<drastik-jw>I've also seen others where the double nginx was not, but on a line graph the nginx & varnish lines were nearly on top of each other
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[09:03:06]<drastik-jw>and of course apache choking @ the bottom of the list ;)
[09:03:53]<chertzog>i think it would still be better to run double nginx. one less piece of software
[09:03:55]<drastik-jw>I was particularly interested in that w/ the prospect of https through nginx native caching & proxy pass through
[09:04:07]<drastik-jw>whereas with Varnish, it is a firm "NO" to ssl
[09:04:24]<chertzog>that was my main reasoning behind the question :)
[09:04:38]<drastik-jw>chertzog: I agree 100% against Varnish, but I'm only a 3rd of the way climbing the knowlege ladder
[09:04:51]<chertzog>same.
[09:05:12]<chertzog>i have a couple clients running on nginx and a few others on apache.
[09:05:29]<chertzog>i much prefer nginx
[09:05:43]<drastik-jw>I think I made the switch 2yrs ago
[09:05:44]<drastik-jw>never looked back
[09:05:48]<drastik-jw>all nginx, all the time
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[09:06:19]<drastik-jw>unless G-wan steps up to the plate with something for PHP. I tried installing Drupal on it previously with weird results
[09:06:59]<drastik-jw>their PHP support currently is an afterthought
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[10:32:06]<chertzog>drastik-jw: http://pastebin.com/N6JVk1y8
[10:32:14]<chertzog>i got nginx to cache itself
[10:34:15]<drastik-jw>chertzog: snazzy
[10:35:59]<chertzog>now to test it with drupal/aegir
[10:36:12]<chertzog>i was just testing with some static html and php pages
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[10:36:44]<drastik-jw>chertzog: so when does *:80 decide to serve cache or pass through to 8080?
[10:36:44]<drastik-jw>chertzog: path based?
[10:36:44]<drastik-jw>chertzog: nevermind I see it now, the key
[10:36:44]<drastik-jw>host uri args
[10:36:57]<chertzog>yep
[10:37:00]<drastik-jw>chertzog: so it will keep serving cached based on timeframe, regardless of changes between
[10:37:07]<chertzog>yeah
[10:37:28]<chertzog>i need to see if there is a way to clear the nginx cache
[10:37:41]<chertzog>for a specific uri
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[10:50:10]<chertzog>https://github.com/FRiCKLE/ngx_cache_purge
[10:50:15]<chertzog>that looks promising
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