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[11:08:46]<chertzog>what does everyone use to monitor thier server?
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[11:11:10]<anarcat>nagios
[11:14:25]<drastik-jw>chertzog: prayer
[11:16:17]<drastik-jw>doh, that was supposed to be a joke. Didn't realize there was actually a debian package 'prayer', or this thing, whatever the heck it is: http://www.theprayerengine.com/features.php
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[11:29:06]<chertzog>anarcat: does nagios monitor each vhost on the server?
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[11:40:53]<gboudrias>chertzog: Only if you configure it to :P
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[11:41:46]<chertzog>is there a aegir module/connection/extension or something that will keep things synced up?
[11:41:54]<chertzog>ive been looking, but i havent found one yet
[11:41:55]<gboudrias>What do you mean synced?
[11:42:18]<gboudrias>What things with what other things?
[11:42:25]<chertzog>id like to be able to view a site in aegir, and see how much bandwidth it has used
[11:43:09]<chertzog>i was able to get apache mod_cband working with a rough D7 port of hostmaster_plus's hosting_resources
[11:43:15]<gboudrias>No idea, but it seems more like a munin thing to me
[11:43:30]<chertzog>but mod_cband will actually limit the bandwidth
[11:43:34]<gboudrias>(There's a munin Aegir plugin iirc)
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[11:46:41]<gboudrias>drastik-jw: That's hilarious!
[11:48:02]<drastik-jw>gboudrias: :) Who thought of the name 'prayer' for a mail system anyway (the deb pkg)
[11:48:12]<drastik-jw>is that like "I'm really praying this email gets out!"
[11:48:41]<gboudrias>hahah
[11:48:41]<drastik-jw>the function to clear the queue and send all is prayer pray --hard
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[11:49:12]<drastik-jw>annnd hellgate enters..
[11:49:16]<drastik-jw>while we are talking about prayer
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[00:24:33]<chertzog>anyone know what would cause a site verify task to fail when run normally, but succeed when run via drush hosting-task with the --debug option
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[00:50:52]<chertzog>nevermind. i found the issue. There was a db error somewhere in the processing.
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[03:27:17]<chertzog_>what are praxis' rates for aegir consulting?
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[03:36:56]<gboudrias>chertzog_: It varies (a lot) based on the project. Generally we'll charge less for projects that contribute to aegir core or contrib. Do you have a project in mind?
[03:37:32]<chertzog_>yeah. ive been working on a SAAS application based on aegir
[03:37:46]<gboudrias>chertzog_: Us too ;)
[03:37:52]<chertzog_>its the main driving force behind all of my contribution lately
[03:38:12]<gboudrias>That's pretty cool
[03:38:25]<chertzog_>I have everything working with the D7 version.
[03:38:46]<gboudrias>Maybe you could send Chris an email? Or even info@praxis.coop , we'd all love to hear about it.
[03:38:59]<chertzog_>though i know that there are probably some things that i havent thought of or some server security stuff that should be done
[03:39:28]<chertzog_>will do
[03:39:31]<gboudrias>Well we can probably help :)
[03:39:58]<chertzog_>http://firmseed.com/
[03:40:00]<gboudrias>I can't overstate how much we appreciate your contributions btw
[03:40:10]<chertzog_>no problem
[03:40:16]<gboudrias>Looks amazing!
[03:41:27]<chertzog_>i have a bunch of patches yet to submit for most of the hosting contrib modules (hostmaster_plus, hosting_site_backup, hosting_piwik, etc
[03:42:23]<chertzog_>my app is controlling aegir via a front end "dashboard" site and services
[03:42:25]<gboudrias>I'll try to keep an eye out, I'm not a maintainer on most of them but I can probably help test them (I've got an aegir3 running)
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[03:43:02]<gboudrias>You mean for end users?
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[03:43:08]<chertzog_>yeah.
[03:43:18]<chertzog_>end users never "see" aegir
[03:43:37]<gboudrias>Yeah after a while we figured that was probably too complicated for most end users
[03:44:12]<chertzog_>they start out with a subdomain on firmseed, then when they add a credit card and select a plan, they can add their domain name
[03:44:13]<gboudrias>We set up a Feeds-based system that processes submissions that come in via email (/webform)
[03:44:32]<gboudrias>Yours sounds a lot more developed though
[03:44:36]<chertzog_>which sends a services call back to create the alias
[03:44:46]<gboudrias>Is that on aegir3?
[03:44:53]<chertzog_>yep
[03:45:09]<chertzog_>the whole project is on aegir
[03:45:26]<gboudrias>Cool. We wanted to do it services-based but aegir3 wasn't developed enough back then (and services is deprecated in D6... ergh)
[03:45:30]<chertzog_>aegir actually hosts the front end "sales" site, and the "dashboard" site
[03:45:36]<gboudrias>Makes sense
[03:46:16]<chertzog_>yeah, i ran into that with services as well. which is another main driving force behind my aegir3 attention
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[03:48:00]<gboudrias>cool
[03:54:45]<gboudrias>(I've just subscribed to the issue queues for the projects you mentioned. Should've done that way sooner.)
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[05:11:47]<chertzog_>is there a way to tell if a task is stuck, or is just taking a long time
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[05:17:59]<gboudrias>chertzog_: ps aux |grep something
[05:18:14]<gboudrias>(Usually "something" is task name)
[05:18:20]<gboudrias>(Or something like that)
[05:18:47]<gboudrias>You can view in the task log what operation it's supposed to be running
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[06:26:54]<chertzog_>ergonlogic: ping
[06:28:52]<ergonlogic>chertzog_: pong
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[06:29:55]<chertzog_>im having an issue with a verify task. if i let hosting-queued run the task it errors. however, if i run it via drush @hostmaster hosting-task 123 --debug it runs successfully
[06:30:03]<chertzog_>thus making it very hard to debug
[06:30:16]<ergonlogic>indeed
[06:30:24]<chertzog_>any ideas?
[06:30:32]<ergonlogic>try running hosting-dispatch --debug instead
[06:30:42]<ergonlogic>since that's what the queued calls
[06:37:44]<chertzog_>well, i modified hosting-queued to run the contents of hosting-queue-runner. see https://drupal.org/node/2195553
[06:37:45]<hefring>https://drupal.org/node/2195553 => Hosting Queued Daemon dies immediately on Ubuntu 12.04 [#2195553] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[06:38:01]<chertzog_>but running hosting-dispatch --debug everything went fine
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[06:40:08]<chertzog_>running hosting-dispatch (without debug) also ends in a failed task
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[06:42:11]<chertzog_>here is a paste of the task log
[06:42:12]<chertzog_>http://pastebin.com/48mnuVBU
[06:47:12]<ergonlogic>chertzog_: respondjs.drush.inc is throwing an error
[06:47:31]<ergonlogic>as is Undefined variable: ssl_key hosting_ssl.nodeapi.inc:421
[06:48:55]<chertzog_>looking at respondjs.drush.inc shows define(RESPONDJS_DOWNLOAD_URI, 'https://raw.github.com/scottjehl/Respond/master/respond.min.js');
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[06:52:03]<chertzog>ok, i fixed that. lets retry
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[06:55:22]<chertzog>nope still failes
[06:55:43]<chertzog>http://pastebin.com/dvXXZGyS
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[08:15:52]<chertzog>so i have traced the issue down to _drush_bootstrap_drupal_configuration()
[08:16:08]<chertzog>drush doesnt get past drupal_bootstrap(DRUPAL_BOOTSTRAP_CONFIGURATION);
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[08:40:51]<chertzog>wow, that was one hell of a bug. i was setting a redirect in the site's settings.php file. drush was being redirected (and exit()'ed) which is what was causing the issues,
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[08:50:26]<milovan>hi, is there some kind of documentation for upgrade from Aegir 1.11 to 2.0? Particularly, I m stuck with Drush upgrade from 4.5 to 6
[08:50:45]<milovan>According to http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading/manual#Upgrading_to_AEgir_2.x I d need to upgrade drush through Composer?
[08:51:19]<milovan>i see i cant use drush dl drush since do has rc4 instead released version
[08:53:34]<drastik-jw>milovan: One thing I do to run multiple versions of drush concurrently, is have a base drush folder somewhere.. /somewhere/drush and all versions of drush within, in their own folders, /somewhere/drush/drush5, /somewhere/drush/drush6
[08:53:43]<drastik-jw>milovan: then you can make aliases to call each one
[08:53:58]<drastik-jw>drush5 do something, drush6 do something
[08:55:48]<milovan>thats interesting approach i havent tried yet; thanks drastik-jw
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[08:59:28]<milovan>latest drush 6 is drush 6 rc4 or was there a release? i think i can only find in github tag for rc4
[09:00:39]<milovan>nvm seems its 6.2.0
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[09:08:59]<ergonlogic>chertzog_: php_sapi_name() != 'cli'
[09:09:37]<chertzog_>is that better then !drupal_is_cli()?
[09:10:30]<ergonlogic>drupal_is_cli is D7+, so we couldn't use it in Aegir 2
[09:10:52]<ergonlogic>but essentially drupal_is_cli() just calls php_sapi_name()
[09:13:03]<chertzog_>ok. its ok, it was something i need for my saas app. its not heading into aegir
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