IRC logs for #aegir, 2014-03-27 (GMT)

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[11:11:23]<drastik-jw>jamesdixon: Just drush ard should work in majority of cases
[11:11:43]<drastik-jw>that's: "drush ard" archive-dump
[11:12:28]<drastik-jw>will give you a tarball containing: MANIFEST.ini, database.sql, & whole code stack from Drupal root up (but ONLY that site's folder in sites/ - not others in a case of multisite)
[11:12:52]<drastik-jw>heading out -- later
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[12:14:12]<vertice>hey guys
[12:14:19]<vertice>anyone around?
[12:14:38]<vertice>i wrote an article about some of my experiences with drupal, and i’m trying to get it on the front page
[12:14:57]<vertice>the article, http://daemon.co.za/2014/03/angular-reminded-me-of-drupal
[12:15:26]<vertice>anybody have hackernews accounts?
[12:15:51]<vertice>anarcat, skwashd kvanderw spyd ?
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[12:21:06]<gboudrias>vertice: Hi, Iyou can submit the article yourself, no?
[12:21:25]<vertice>yeah. but i need like 2-3 votes to get it on the front page
[12:21:28]<vertice>and visible in the feeds
[12:21:30]<vertice> to vote, you to copy/paste - https://news.ycombinator.com/newest and find the 'i was afraid of angular.js because it reminded me of drupal' article
[12:21:37]<vertice>it’s just the initial boost that’s important
[12:21:56]<gboudrias>Sure
[12:22:47]<vertice>i don’t remember you from back when
[12:23:02]<vertice>but I actually founded aegir back in the day (fyi)
[12:23:11]<vertice>i’m not just joining random rooms and begging for clicks
[12:23:23]<vertice>i
[12:23:44]<vertice>i’m building an audience because i have a whole slew of posts in the wings about wha ti learnt fromd rupal and aegir, etc.
[12:24:55]<vertice>got on the fp now. but if you go to https://news.ycombinator.com/new and find the 'i was afraid of angular.js because it reminded me of drupal' article
[12:25:03]<vertice>it will get picked up faster
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[23:21:16]<omega8cc>vertice: hey! just upvoted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7477896
[23:21:27]<vertice>hey
[23:21:28]<vertice>thanks
[23:21:29]<vertice>=)
[23:21:38]<vertice>you go tmentioned in the comments too =P
[23:22:08]<vertice>got 8k hits, which is good
[23:22:15]<omega8cc>didn’t read all comments yet :)
[23:23:01]<omega8cc>vertice: oh, nice! thanks!
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[23:35:25]<omega8cc>vertice: also, it is really interesting perspective, along with previous articles, and nice photos too! there is an Adrian sized hole in my heart too :( but I also know it was the right thing to do :)
[23:38:03]<vertice>=)
[23:38:15]<vertice>i have more to write about it too
[23:38:21]<vertice>but yeah
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[03:26:01]<mvc>ergonlogic: :(
[03:26:17]<ergonlogic>tell me about it...
[03:26:19]<mvc>i *really* don't get their selection process
[03:27:48]<ergonlogic>well, on a positive note, there were 7 sessions that mentioned aegir, of which only 3 were mine
[03:27:57]<ergonlogic>so let's see how the other 4 fare
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[03:32:03]<omega8cc>never give up!
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[04:23:54]<jamesdixon>omega8cc, drastik-jw: thanks for the guidance, I am working towards migrating to an aegir server now
[04:27:33]<chertzog>how's everyone doing today
[04:27:33]<hefring>chertzog: 1 week 3 days ago <kristoffeewiklu2> tell chertzog: Should be possible to install a new nginx-aegir hostmaster on same server. And then use https://drupal.org/project/remote_import to move sites from apache-aegir to nginx-aegir.
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[05:01:15]<roycroft>hello again, folks
[05:01:31]<roycroft>i think i'm close to having this aegir migration complete
[05:01:41]<roycroft>i have a working aegir install on the new server
[05:02:17]<roycroft>however, when my boss attempted to import a site he got an error, which i am fairly certain is due to aegir's generating randomish database passwords
[05:02:24]<roycroft>so i copied the platform to the new server
[05:02:39]<roycroft>dumped the database on the old server and imported it into the new server
[05:03:47]<roycroft>added a grant for the database user in ~aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/myhostname
[05:03:56]<roycroft>flushed privileges
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[05:04:14]<roycroft>verified that i could connect to that database as that user/password
[05:04:30]<roycroft>then i handed it back to my boss, who used some aegir import utility
[05:04:36]<roycroft>in the log i see this:
[05:05:06]<roycroft>SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'aegiruser'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[05:05:13]<gboudrias>roycroft: Aegir is sort of made to handle all that for you
[05:05:34]<gboudrias>roycroft: The simplest way to import site is to trick it into thinking it has, ie creating a new site, drop the database and import the new one
[05:05:53]<roycroft>hmm
[05:05:55]<gboudrias>That would also ensure that your platform codebase is working
[05:06:09]<gboudrias>(Not that it wouldn't be before, but sometimes we miss things while migrating the code)
[05:06:18]<roycroft>my boss sent me a link to an aegir handbook that said i have to transfer the codebase, databsae, and platform manually
[05:06:21]<roycroft>then import the sites
[05:06:27]<roycroft>i followed that document
[05:06:45]<roycroft>i'm not sure how i can import from another aegir server easily
[05:07:09]<gboudrias>Well if that's what the handbook says I would follow that, but when that fails I just do the procedure above. It's not really worth messing with MySQL user permissions imo.
[05:07:15]<roycroft>at the very least, wouldn't i need to have mysql on the old server listen on another ip address and add a grant to that?
[05:07:34]<gboudrias>roycroft: But maybe try to edit the site's settings.php?
[05:07:37]<roycroft>i'm not at all married to any particular method :)
[05:07:54]<roycroft>the database username/password are in the apache config
[05:08:09]<roycroft>something about that allegedly being more secure than putting it in settings.php
[05:08:11]<gboudrias>roycroft: Wait, do you mean you're not trying to import the database, but rather leave it on the old server?
[05:08:17]<roycroft>no
[05:08:23]<roycroft>i've imported the database onto the new server
[05:08:27]<roycroft>i already moved it
[05:09:37]<gboudrias>Well it must be a missing grant as you said
[05:09:40]<roycroft>righ
[05:09:41]<roycroft>t
[05:09:49]<roycroft>it's clear from that error message
[05:09:59]<gboudrias>It should be easy to log into MySQL and correct it?
[05:10:06]<roycroft>sure, if i knew what to do
[05:10:10]<roycroft>that's the problem
[05:10:28]<roycroft>the mysql username and password are defined in the file i mentioned above
[05:10:38]<roycroft>i created a grant for that database for that username/password pair
[05:10:59]<roycroft>and i used the mysql client to to connect to that database using the username/password pair
[05:11:05]<roycroft>so i know that grant is correct
[05:11:29]<roycroft>i think that the site he's trying to import somehow has the old mysql server username/password embedded in it somewhere
[05:11:40]<roycroft>he said that the aegir import utility did not prompt for any database credentials
[05:12:03]<roycroft>i guess i can do a brute force recursive search for the old password in the site code
[05:12:22]<gboudrias>Sholdn't be the case if the codebase is sane, but I'm out of ideas. Anyone else?
[05:13:43]<roycroft>so is the vhost.d/vhost.com config generated as part of the import process?
[05:13:52]<roycroft>because that does not exist on the new server for the site we're importing
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[05:14:57]<ergonlogic>roycroft: the user/pass also has to be in the site's drushrc.php
[05:15:35]<roycroft>there are a bunch of those
[05:15:49]<roycroft>should i be looking in the platforms/myplatform/drushrc.php?
[05:16:41]<ergonlogic>no, the one in the site
[05:16:57]<roycroft>ok, i see it embedded in platforms/myplatform/sites/mysite/drushrc.php
[05:16:58]<ergonlogic>platforms/myplatform/sites/mysite/drushrc.php
[05:17:03]<ergonlogic>right
[05:17:34]<roycroft>but that gets imported from the old server as part of the import procedure, right?
[05:17:36]<ergonlogic>also, as of drush5, the platform drushrc.php has to be at platforms/myplatform/drush/drushrc.php
[05:17:49]<roycroft>and we are using drush 5.10
[05:18:17]<ergonlogic>if it contins the old db credentials, then drush won't be able to connect to the site's db
[05:18:22]<roycroft>ok
[05:18:25]<ergonlogic>try 'drush sqlc'
[05:18:28]<roycroft>i can change the credentials
[05:18:29]<ergonlogic>in the site's dir
[05:18:57]<ergonlogic>the drushrc.php will be re-written during the import/verify
[05:19:08]<roycroft>and i get access denied wheni run drush sqlc
[05:19:12]<roycroft>which i would expect
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[05:19:41]<roycroft>so if i edit drushrc.php with the correct credentials on the new server, when we do the import that will get overwritten again?
[05:20:18]<ergonlogic>yes, but still with the proper credentials
[05:20:22]<roycroft>ok
[05:20:26]<roycroft>so that's the plan
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[05:20:57]<roycroft>oh wait - it uses a different username
[05:21:10]<roycroft>i can just add a grant for that username/password, and nothing should break
[05:22:18]<ergonlogic>the creds in drushrc.php should match those in the vhost
[05:22:34]<ergonlogic>otherwise you're looking for trouble
[05:23:44]<roycroft>i'm having him try the import again
[05:24:15]<roycroft>although that drushrc.php points to the old server still
[05:24:23]<roycroft>i'll change that really quick
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[05:31:02]<roycroft>now i wait to see when my boss gets around to it again
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[06:46:51]<Valkum>Good evening from Germany, anyone here with experience in acls and aegir?
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[07:41:03]<Valkum>i'm using provisionacl to set acls but in files directory new uploaded files inf files dir have www-data as owner and setfacl fails to set the acl for this files. The result is a warning in aegir. Any one got a fix for that?
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[07:54:57]<ergonlogic>Valkum: check the provisionacl issue queue
[07:55:04]<ergonlogic>I believe it's a know issue
[07:55:10]<ergonlogic>known*
[07:55:26]<ergonlogic>I'm think of taking a more agressive approach in aegir3
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[07:56:31]<ergonlogic>we can get around such things by copying the file (which should set ownership to aegir), removing the original, and renaming the copy to take its place
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[08:08:22]<Valkum>ergonlogic do u know any workaround? i thought about a cronjob until there is a proper solution.
[08:09:32]<roycroft>we seem to be good now - thanks folks
[08:09:49]<roycroft>the procedure was not clear that i need to add a grant for the user/pass from the old server
[08:09:57]<roycroft>once i did that we were able to start migrating sites
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[08:55:25]<ergonlogic>Valkum: yep, a cronjob should work
[08:56:08]<ergonlogic>the problem is largely that transferring file ownership requires root
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[09:28:58]<Valkum>as a workarround i created a cronjob via root. https://gist.github.com/valkum/9820479
[09:33:26]<ergonlogic>Valkum: it'd be great to share that solution on the community site :)
[09:33:50]<Valkum>i'll do that
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