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[03:46:28]<nandwabee>What is the best way to integrate Aegir with Varnish? I a running on Centos and am not finding good documentation for that.
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[03:54:58]<ergonlogic>nandwabee: https://drupal.org/project/hosting_varnish
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[04:32:36]<jamesdixon>hey guys, does anyone know how I would go about updating my devshop_hosting module on Devshop?
[04:32:53]<jamesdixon>I think I know what to do but don't want to break my devshop site
[04:33:08]<jamesdixon>is this right? https://drupal.org/comment/8588109#comment-8588109
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[05:04:37]<drastik-jw>hefring: tell omega8cc: RE: conversation about .dev sites, I'm sure this has been passed around before, but curious what the struggles/pitfalls would be to adding an option (checkbox?) to Platforms/Sites in the UI that is "Dev mode?" -- turns off caching, etc
[05:04:37]<hefring>drastik-jw: I'll pass that on when omega8cc is around.
[05:11:02]<ergonlogic>jamesdixon: you should probably put the updated copy in your sites/<aegir_url>/modules
[05:11:39]<ergonlogic>jamesdixon: it'd be a good idea to backup your aegir site first, so you can rollback in case of errors during the update
[05:12:21]<ergonlogic>after putting the new code in place, run 'drush rr' or visit the modules page so the site picks up the new code
[05:12:29]<ergonlogic>and then run update.php
[05:12:43]<drastik-jw>https://drupal.org/project/devshop_up versus aegir-up, anyone know?
[05:12:57]<drastik-jw>ergonlogic: have you seen that ^ ?
[05:13:34]<ergonlogic>jamesdixon: you can't restore an aegir site from the front-end, so you'd need to run a provision-restore if anything goes wrong
[05:13:38]<ergonlogic>drastik-jw: I had not
[05:14:16]<drastik-jw>ergonlogic: Here's the main project: https://drupal.org/project/devshop
[05:14:27]<ergonlogic>I'm aware of devshop
[05:14:39]<ergonlogic>I just hadn't seen the vagrant project
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[05:22:25]<jamesdixon>ergonlogic: thank you, I will give that a shot!
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[05:59:41]<chertzog>ergonlogic: have you used hosting_solr?
[05:59:49]<ergonlogic>chertzog: nope
[06:00:07]<chertzog>ok. i guess i will need to dig into it.
[06:00:27]<chertzog>i wanted to see if it creates separate cores for each site
[06:00:56]<ergonlogic>no idea, sorry
[06:02:47]<chertzog>awesome! it does.
[06:02:53]<chertzog>yay for a good readme
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[06:08:09]<ergonlogic>it looks like it sets up a new server for each site
[06:08:45]<ergonlogic>but I'm not familiar enough with solr...
[06:09:19]<ergonlogic>I was under the impression that you could have multiple cores per server
[06:09:25]<chertzog>you can
[06:10:22]<chertzog>http://drupalcode.org/project/provision_solr.git/blob/refs/heads/6.x-1.x...
[06:11:10]<chertzog>hmm, yeah it looks like it is creating separate "servers"
[06:11:10]<chertzog>"Each site gets it's own independent Tomcat application"
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[06:37:24]<realityloop>ergonlogic: whats the best place to look at the status of aegir 7.x?
[06:38:10]<chertzog>realityloop: probably the hosting issue queue.
[06:38:27]<chertzog>ive been working with the D7 version for a while, and its coming along
[06:38:43]<realityloop>chertzog: cheers
[06:39:10]<chertzog>im actually preparing to use it in production for a SAAS app
[06:39:13]<chertzog>firmseed.com
[06:41:17]<realityloop>chertzog: neat, are there any instructions on the setup process anywhere?
[06:41:53]<chertzog>you can pretty much follow the 6.x-2.x instructions, and just replace the provision version with 7.x
[06:42:16]<chertzog>thats what i did, and it worked
[06:42:19]<realityloop>cool
[06:42:40]<realityloop>can you give me a brief rundown of whats not working yet?
[06:43:40]<realityloop>I'm interested in making it possible to install with my OSX Aegir script.. but I don't want to make myself unproductive for work if there are things not working that I'd need
[06:43:47]<realityloop>install/update to
[06:44:09]<chertzog>i think dns needs some attention (bind specifically), ssl (but i am working on a patch for most of that),
[06:44:19]<chertzog>other than that, most of it is working
[06:44:51]<realityloop>I'm not using DNS so thats ok.. do you know if nginx has been tested at all?
[06:45:02]<realityloop>I am using ssl on some sites
[06:45:07]<chertzog>thats the other thing that i havent tested yet is nginx
[06:45:20]<chertzog>ive been using apache and apache with ssl
[06:45:32]<realityloop>I need drush 7 I assume?
[06:45:37]<chertzog>nope
[06:45:49]<realityloop>I thought Drush 7 was required for Drupal 8?
[06:46:08]<chertzog>i guess if you want d8 :)
[06:46:29]<realityloop>it's the main reason I'd like to try it out :)
[06:47:13]<chertzog>ergonlogic: i think this issue can be closed now https://drupal.org/node/955854
[06:47:14]<hefring>https://drupal.org/node/955854 => Site form can be very slow with huge number of platforms and packages [#955854] => 34 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[06:47:41]<chertzog>since we ajaxified the site platforms/profiles stuff
[06:48:51]<ergonlogic>realityloop: drush7 support is broken as of last week
[06:49:05]<ergonlogic>when they removed support for hook_drush_load
[06:49:09]<realityloop>doh
[06:49:35]<ergonlogic>which we use to only run the provision code for the front-end modules that are enabled
[06:49:38]<realityloop>ergonlogic: what does that mean for drupal 8 support in 7.x?
[06:49:51]<ergonlogic>it'S not a very hard fix, but I haven't gotten around to it yet
[06:50:13]<ergonlogic>well, last time I checked we could install d8 sites
[06:50:28]<ergonlogic>I can't confirm that any other tasks work
[06:50:30]<realityloop>will 6.x work with drush 7?
[06:50:31]<ergonlogic>yet
[06:50:43]<realityloop>apart from the same issue?
[06:50:43]<ergonlogic>Drupal 6?
[06:50:52]<realityloop>aegir 6.x
[06:50:58]<ergonlogic>aegir 2.x
[06:51:05]<realityloop>yes.. sorry
[06:51:20]<ergonlogic>no, I don't think we'll be backporting the fix to the 2.x branch
[06:51:48]<ergonlogic>so aegir 2.x will require drush 5 or 6
[06:51:58]<ergonlogic>and aegir 3 will require drush 7
[06:52:11]<realityloop>I guess I need to test in a VM instead of my laptop directly then
[06:52:13]<ergonlogic>and probably later versions
[06:52:33]<realityloop>at least until I know it will work with what I need.
[06:52:40]<ergonlogic>that's essentially why I built aegir-up
[06:52:50]<ergonlogic>sorry it's such a hassle to install/get working
[06:52:53]<realityloop>ergonlogic: except we can't get it to work
[06:53:04]<ergonlogic>yeah... I know
[06:53:12]<realityloop>I'll just make an alteration to my OSX script and install in an OSX VM :)
[06:53:42]<ergonlogic>I'm working on a vagrant plugin that allows vagrantfiles to be configured via yaml
[06:54:05]<ergonlogic>that's one of the fundamental challenges with drush-vagrant/aegir-up right now
[06:54:08]<realityloop>ergonlogic: cool
[06:54:21]<ergonlogic>in that php doesn't parse ruby
[06:54:24]<realityloop>have you thought about using Ansible instead?
[06:54:27]<ergonlogic>so it's a bit of a mess
[06:54:38]<ergonlogic>no, I like puppet
[06:54:53]<realityloop>k.. but ansible uses yaml by default
[06:55:01]<ergonlogic>right
[06:55:12]<ergonlogic>but we have working puppet modules for drush, aegir, etc
[06:55:16]<realityloop>and also doesn't require anything installed on the target.. does all of it's work via ssh
[06:55:21]<ergonlogic>and it's much more mature
[06:55:50]<realityloop>anyway.. setting up VM to test 3.x
[06:56:01]<realityloop>3.x doesn't require drush 7 yet I take it?
[06:56:01]<ergonlogic>well, the idea is for drush-vagrant not to care what provisoner you use
[06:56:18]<ergonlogic>no, it supports drush 5 and 6 still
[06:56:39]<ergonlogic>and drush 7 right up to the last commit attributed to me
[06:56:50]<ergonlogic>go figure
[06:56:58]<realityloop>but change in drush project broke that?
[06:58:32]<realityloop>so I should just need to change line 924 & 930 to use 7.x.3.x? https://github.com/BrianGilbert/OSXAegirInstaller/blob/master/aegir.sh#L930
[06:59:54]<realityloop>ergonlogic: I really wish they'd pull this into drush.. https://github.com/drush-ops/drush/pull/94
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[07:21:11]<greggles>I keep hitting "load on system too heavy"
[07:21:33]<greggles>but...load on the system is not too heavy
[07:21:37]<greggles>(this is locally)
[07:21:52]<realityloop>drush is reporting that?
[07:21:56]<greggles>right
[07:22:24]<greggles>http://api.aegirproject.org/api/aegir/provision3!provision.drush.inc/fun...
[07:22:26]<realityloop>I have seen that at least once in the past.. but not for a long time
[07:23:09]<realityloop>do any of your stes do a lot when cron runs?
[07:23:32]<greggles>I get it pretty randomly, not related to cron
[07:23:36]<greggles>like, sometimes during a drush vset
[07:23:58]<realityloop>try running top and see if you can find if it is actually spiking or not?
[07:24:09]<greggles>the load average is relatively high
[07:24:15]<greggles>but CPU is 70% idle
[07:24:22]<realityloop>strange
[07:25:48]<ergonlogic>I think we have a feature request open to make that limit configurable
[07:26:20]<ergonlogic>high i/o is where I've seen this most
[07:26:41]<ergonlogic>which was often caused by the gzip stage of site backups
[07:26:59]<greggles>yeah, https://drupal.org/node/1785472
[07:27:00]<hefring>https://drupal.org/node/1785472 => have a workaround for the "load on system too heavy aborting" errors [#1785472] => 4 comments, 1 IRC mention
[07:27:14]<realityloop>yeah that makes sense based on when I did see those issues
[07:27:22]<ergonlogic>we've started running the queue daemon under ionice and nice
[07:27:35]<realityloop>it was during creation of packups on quite big sites..
[07:27:38]<greggles>but I get this error just running random drush commands
[07:27:48]<greggles>granted this is on my laptop that is running ~15 other things
[07:27:51]<ergonlogic>so 'ionice -c3 nice drush @hostmaster hosting-queued'
[07:27:51]<realityloop>but I did one that compressed is 5GB the other day and didn't get any warnings
[07:27:54]<greggles>but...the load isn't bad
[07:28:30]<ergonlogic>it should be pretty easy to hack http://api.aegirproject.org/api/aegir/provision3%21provision.drush.inc/f...
[07:29:07]<ergonlogic>to make it some drush options that default to 5 and 10 respectively
[07:29:48]<ergonlogic>then we can just change those options in aegir .drushrc.php
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[07:29:53]<greggles>okeydoke
[07:30:01]* greggles just added a return to the top of the function for now
[07:32:17]<realityloop>ergonlogic: any chance you can tak a look at getting drush7 to work again? so that I can start testing for drupal 8 issues..?
[07:32:55]<ergonlogic>greggles: I'll post a patch to that issue in a couple minutes, if you wouldn't mind testing it
[07:33:07]<greggles>ergonlogic: cool
[07:33:12]<ergonlogic>realityloop: I'll try to get to it over the weekend
[07:33:35]<realityloop>ergonlogic: thanks.. I'm nstalling 3.x in a VM now to take a look at where things are at
[07:37:22]<realityloop>ergonlogic: my aegir script for OSX will allow you to install 3.x before the end of the weekend too
[07:40:06]<realityloop>ergonlogic: error during install: http://pastebin.com/E3zy6W9x
[07:42:41]<realityloop>ergonlogic: any ideas what might cause that? ^
[07:44:59]<ergonlogic>greggles: fyi: https://drupal.org/comment/8629239#comment-8629239
[07:45:07]<ergonlogic>realityloop: looking
[07:45:17]<realityloop>ergonlogic: thanks..
[07:46:19]<ergonlogic>realityloop: can you post the entire log?
[07:46:24]<realityloop>sure
[07:46:29]<ergonlogic>more context would make it easier
[07:47:44]<realityloop>ergonlogic: http://pastebin.com/jPvvdpfk
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[07:48:16]<greggles>ergonlogic: patch applies...kind of hard to create the conditions that caused the problem to test it ;)
[07:48:32]<greggles>and looks reasonable, I should say
[07:48:53]<realityloop>ergonlogic: here is the hostmaster-install command I used just in case it's relevant: hostmaster-install --aegir_root='/var/aegir' --root='/var/aegir/hostmaster-7.x-3.x' --http_service_type=nginx --aegir_host=aegir.ld --client_email=$email aegir.ld
[07:50:54]<ergonlogic>greggles: well presumably you were seeing it frequently enough to ask about it
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[07:51:19]<ergonlogic>so presumably, if you don't anymore with the higher thresholds, that should be enough
[07:51:29]<ergonlogic>it's pretty trivial anyway
[07:51:41]<greggles>yep, I'll definitely let you know if I see it again :)
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[08:13:01]<realityloop>ergonlogic: any luck with that error?
[08:25:53]<ergonlogic>sorry, family stuff
[08:25:57]<ergonlogic>back for a bit
[08:27:07]<realityloop>np
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[08:43:39]<realityloop>ergonlogic: I have to go.. but should be back in about an hour and a half..
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[08:47:39]<ergonlogic>realityloopAFK: I can't replicate the error
[08:47:53]<ergonlogic>that is hostmaster-install works just fine for me
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[10:39:36]<realityloop>ergonlogic: ok, I'll try again
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