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| [01:06:48] | <gboudrias> | helmo: Thanks! |
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| [01:17:47] | <gboudrias> | hefring tell helmo thanks! |
| [01:17:47] | <hefring> | gboudrias: I'll pass that on when helmo is around. |
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| [01:54:12] | <jcharaoui> | hi there, a small suggestion : the 2.1 release notes should mention that redirections are now fixed |
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| [01:56:10] | <jcharaoui> | re: https://drupal.org/node/2189687 |
| [01:56:11] | <hefring> | https://drupal.org/node/2189687 => Redirect to site-alias not working [#2189687] => 3 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [03:29:48] | <ergonlogic> | jcharaoui: thanks Jerome :) |
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| [03:33:00] | <ergonlogic> | but I think the changes were reverted |
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| [03:38:13] | <jcharaoui> | ergonlogic, the changes that were reverted are part of 2.0 |
| [03:38:33] | <jcharaoui> | 2.0 was published with broken redirection |
| [03:38:42] | <ergonlogic> | ah, ok |
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| [05:09:12] | <Ogredude> | ok, this is odd. When I migrate sites, it doesn't put their aliases in the nginx configs. Verifying the site puts them in. |
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| [05:10:35] | <Ogredude> | 2.0-rc5 |
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| [05:57:04] | <liammcdermott_> | I see that, in the nginx configuration, that 'limit_conn gulag 32' is included in the server.tpl.php |
| [05:57:37] | <liammcdermott_> | Problem with this is we're running nginx behind Varnish, so I have to go and hack the tpl file every time I update Aegir |
| [05:57:54] | <liammcdermott_> | So I'm wondering if this should be moved to the 'extended' nginx configuration section? |
| [05:58:30] | <anarcat> | sounds reasonable |
| [05:59:17] | <liammcdermott_> | anarcat, thanks I saw the issue introducing the extended config and it seemed... controversial. :) |
| [05:59:33] | <anarcat> | that's one way to put it |
| [06:00:46] | <liammcdermott_> | anarcat, thanks for persevering with that, the change has really helped those of us who need to decide policy for ourselves. |
| [06:01:10] | <anarcat> | liammcdermott_: you're welcome |
| [06:07:20] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: I'm going to pull the 1.12 and 2.1 .debs into stable |
| [06:07:39] | <ergonlogic> | as per http://community.aegirproject.org/content/release-process#Publish_the_De... |
| [06:07:54] | <anarcat> | of course |
| [06:10:38] | <ergonlogic> | done |
| [06:11:00] | <ergonlogic> | now to make some noise about it |
| [06:11:09] | * anarcat shivers at the idea of all his servers upgrading automatically at a release he didn't completely do himself ;) |
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| [06:18:55] | <ergonlogic> | thanks for the vote of confidence :p |
| [06:19:12] | * ergonlogic has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 2.0 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/2.0 | 1.12 deprecated | Issue queues: http://community.aegirproject.org/issues | Please read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/help |
| [06:19:21] | <anarcat> | i'm sure it'll be fine |
| [06:19:29] | * ergonlogic has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 2.1 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/2.1 | 1.12 deprecated | Issue queues: http://community.aegirproject.org/issues | Please read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/help |
| [06:19:47] | <ergonlogic> | well, at least it isn't Friday :) |
| [06:19:54] | <anarcat> | eh |
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| [06:30:11] | <hefring> | community => 2.1 released! => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/21-released |
| [06:36:34] | <liammcdermott_> | anarcat, oh shit, you're leaving! |
| [06:38:48] | <liammcdermott_> | anarcat, so you're not part of Praxis Labs? |
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| [06:39:05] | <liammcdermott_> | And I have to admit to having similar feelings about PHP as you do. |
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| [06:53:05] | <anarcat> | liammcdermott_: i am not :) |
| [06:53:18] | <anarcat> | liammcdermott_: and i'm not *quite* leaving, just taking a step away |
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| [07:07:00] | <liammcdermott_> | anarcat, okay, well I'm sorry to see you taking a step back. Also, am I reading it right that you think Aegir is NIH and should be replaced by Puppet and others? |
| [07:07:15] | <anarcat> | well |
| [07:07:17] | <liammcdermott_> | Hope you don't mind the questions, I'll shut up after this. :) |
| [07:07:34] | <anarcat> | take that with a grain of salt: all of computer science has been NIH from my PoV for the last 10 years :p |
| [07:08:02] | <anarcat> | when we started aegir, it wasn't NIH, puppet and others weren't ready, and we weren't provisionning VMs so much |
| [07:08:02] | <liammcdermott_> | Oh cripes, that sounds like a deep point-of-view |
| [07:08:52] | <liammcdermott_> | I use Puppet a bit and am having trouble conceptualising it as a tool for provisioning sites. |
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| [07:10:22] | <jcharaoui> | what does Aegir do that Puppet couldn't ? |
| [07:11:16] | <jcharaoui> | I use Puppet to provision Apache configs and databases, Drupal might be just one recipe among others |
| [07:11:27] | <anarcat> | jcharaoui: it can manage thousands of sites |
| [07:11:29] | <anarcat> | in theory |
| [07:11:36] | <liammcdermott_> | jcharaoui, let you provision sites using a GUI or REST? |
| [07:11:47] | <anarcat> | it execute tasks instead of trying to converge a massive number of things at every run |
| [07:12:40] | <jcharaoui> | indeed |
| [07:16:40] | <liammcdermott_> | We have an Aegir install that's managing 650 sites (they're all micro-sites mind you) and that's working fine. |
| [07:16:51] | <liammcdermott_> | We're going to have thousands in not too long. |
| [07:17:13] | <anarcat> | right |
| [07:17:36] | <anarcat> | so puppet could do that as well, but basically it would need to check every one of those sites at each run see if everything is alright |
| [07:17:54] | <anarcat> | and then things like migrate would be a little difficult to implement |
| [07:18:02] | <liammcdermott_> | The nice thing about Aegir was we could install services module and write a small glue module that creates a site whenever a Drupal user is created. It was ridiculously easy. |
| [07:18:14] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [07:19:01] | <liammcdermott_> | Yes, I'm with you. I still don't get how you're supposed to handle task-oriented things (like migrate, or even OS updates) using Puppet. |
| [07:19:20] | <anarcat> | there's a remote execution thingy |
| [07:19:28] | <anarcat> | but yeah, it's not quite designed for that |
| [07:19:41] | <anarcat> | puppet and chef are useful to create basic environments, in my mind |
| [07:19:49] | <anarcat> | then you can run daemons and applications on top of that |
| [07:20:00] | <anarcat> | aegir is such an application, and its data is other drupal or aegir sites |
| [07:21:56] | <liammcdermott_> | That's exactly how I see it too, this is good as I was getting a little worried. :) |
| [07:22:17] | <liammcdermott_> | Thought there was something about Puppet I fundamentally wasn't understanding. |
| [07:23:14] | <liammcdermott_> | So Aegir is still a good tool for the job then? |
| [07:23:23] | <liammcdermott_> | (in your opinion) |
| [07:28:51] | <anarcat> | of course |
| [07:29:25] | <anarcat> | it's just we're thinking of hosting more than drupal sites and right now it feels a little like fitting a square peg in a round hole |
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| [07:31:16] | <liammcdermott_> | Ahh, I remember some mention of this, like expanding Aegir to host Wordpress and other software, what you're saying is it's not much good for that. |
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| [07:32:22] | <liammcdermott_> | Well, I'd love to ask you a million more questions, but had better let you go. Thanks very much! |
| [07:34:22] | <anarcat> | :) |
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