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| [13:47:10] | <hefring> | community => Domain Email Server Suggestions => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/domain-email-server-suggestions |
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| [21:41:32] | <batfastad> | Hi everyone. Should I consider apc.stat=0 safe when using Aegir? |
| [21:42:10] | <batfastad> | My understanding is that apc.stat only becomes an issue when PHP files are modified without being flushed from APC. But since we deploy code changes as new Aegir platforms, APC is flushed on platform deployment anyway. |
| [22:21:21] | <mvc> | batfastad: you should be safe; installing new aegir sites on your platforms will trigger a graceful apache restart and that will clear the apc cache |
| [22:22:17] | <mvc> | it's fine in production environments, but don't forget to turn it off on your dev server or you'll drive some poor coder crazy :) |
| [22:23:03] | <batfastad> | Yep that's exactly what I thought. For dev obviously you probably want apc.stat=1 but I'm extremely strict about this |
| [22:23:44] | <batfastad> | It seems devs used to treat our production boxes like the wild-west. Now they're totally cut-off so no chance of any changes |
| [22:28:42] | <mvc> | i guess you could insist on pushing code via git & put an apache restart in a post-commit hook to allow for urgent hotfixes |
| [22:31:27] | <batfastad> | We tag in svn then deploy that svn tag as a new platform. Then migrate sites to it gradually. Works really well |
| [22:32:03] | <batfastad> | The drupal multi-site architecture of Aegir has really helped with this, with all our code living under sites/all and all sites using that codebase |
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| [23:10:48] | <mvc> | so your entire platforms are in svn? |
| [23:11:06] | <mvc> | we just keep drush makefiles in git & build platforms from those |
| [23:11:11] | <batfastad> | no, just the sites/all directory |
| [23:11:44] | <mvc> | rather than locally tracking changes in core & every contrib module we use |
| [23:12:15] | <mvc> | https://drupal.org/project/kplatforms |
| [23:12:47] | <batfastad> | Then if there are any site-specific themes/modules we create an svn repo for that site. means deploying a platform is a case of extracting a drupal core and svn exporting the sites/all from our repo. Then platform in aegir. |
| [23:13:25] | <batfastad> | The only thing that's killing us is the amount of time we've had to faff about performance tuning that we never had to with our ground-up platforms. But the central management of all our sites makes up for that |
| [23:14:05] | <mvc> | how do you version things like local.settings.php ? |
| [23:15:06] | <batfastad> | well, we don't at the moment. the only sites that have a local.settings.php are ones where we're using memcached, and the local.settings.php is the same for all of those |
| [23:18:35] | <mvc> | here, we put a .git repo in each site dir (and ignore drushrc.php, settings.php, files/, & private/) |
| [23:19:08] | <mvc> | anyways, sounds like your setup works for your current needs |
| [23:19:55] | <mvc> | i will just add that our changelogs got a lot more readable when we started just versioning a drush makefile |
| [23:20:16] | <mvc> | but that wouldn't be a small change to your workflow |
| [23:20:21] | <batfastad> | yeah we're really only just getting started. moving from a horrible mixture of: typo3, alfresco, joomla, wordpress, and custom CMSs |
| [23:21:05] | <batfastad> | so we're still just digging the benefit of having a single CMS at the moment! But it now means all our sites will be living on a single aegir box - which is a big worry! |
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| [23:22:11] | <batfastad> | But my next stage is to setup a layer of nginx reverse proxies on top of that to cache everything, so we can get to a point where the aegir box can die for a while with the sites remaining up (albeit with stale content) |
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| [23:25:09] | <batfastad> | Ideally I'd also have haproxy on top of that so all our SSL is terminated at haproxy, with requests load balanced between multiple nginx reverse proxies, routing to a single aegir server when needed. But haproxy->nginx->aegir/apache seems like alot of proxying |
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| [00:09:32] | <mvc> | hmm, yeah -- this is less my area of expertise but here we just have a copy of varnish in front of apache |
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| [00:09:54] | <mvc> | oh geez, five CMS :( what a pain |
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| [02:01:51] | <batfastad> | If we want to start optimising our dedicated DB server, what mysql variables should I start looking at? |
| [02:02:25] | <batfastad> | Running 5.1 and I've already changed innodb buffer pool to 50-60% of physical memory |
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| [02:03:51] | <anarcat> | try mysqltuner.pl |
| [02:04:40] | <batfastad> | does that read the output of show global status and show global variables? |
| [02:05:20] | <batfastad> | Ah yes I think i remember that now. It reads that data and gives recommendations. Safe to run on production box? ie. it doesn't modify running config? |
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| [02:07:17] | <anarcat> | that's correct |
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| [03:28:48] | <mvc> | batfastad: but wait until your server's been up for a while so it has useful stats to read |
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