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| [13:59:07] | <cweagans> | ergonlogic: my company stuff ran late tonight. you guys still working on things? |
| [13:59:07] | <hefring> | cweagans: 12 hours 23 min ago <ergonlogic> tell cweagans Can you drop me a quick email... I don't think I have your address to add to the core mailing list :) |
| [13:59:17] | <cweagans> | heh |
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| [19:56:39] | <tdm04> | hi all.. I was trying to move a BOA master instance from one machine to another. I got all the sites working, but when I try to load the aegir master, it redirects to /install.php. Do I have to run some kind of special drush bootstrapping to get it working? |
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| [20:12:05] | <tdm04> | hey omega8cc .. quick question about BOA.. if I switch database servers, how many places do I have to change the location of the database server? |
| [20:12:36] | <tdm04> | it's like playing whack-a-mole.. I keep finding failed logins and it's trying to log into localhost db not the remote one I specified :( |
| [20:14:04] | <tdm04> | Barracuda [Thu Jun 5 10:11:18 UTC 2014] ==> INFO: Syncing provision backend db_passwd... ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [20:16:02] | <omega8cc> | tdm04: in general, it is a bad idea to change it on the fly, since you need to modify/configure: 0. Add new db server in hostmaster, 1. grants in the db server you will use, 2. records in the hostmaster database for existing sites, 3. drushrc.php files in every site dir, 4. settings.php in every site (can be done with verify task after previous 0-3 steps are complete) |
| [20:17:11] | <omega8cc> | of course, barracuda and octopus upgrades will fail |
| [20:17:24] | <omega8cc> | because BOA doesn’t support remote db servers |
| [20:17:35] | <tdm04> | I'm using BOA with RDS |
| [20:17:39] | <tdm04> | so I need it to be remote |
| [20:17:49] | <omega8cc> | you will need to manually add required grants on the remote server for root |
| [20:18:17] | <tdm04> | yeah but in that script above.. it's trying to contact localhost for some reason. |
| [20:18:46] | <tdm04> | where would I put in the remote server so it looks at that? I've already gone through a ton of drush .php files and settings.php files |
| [20:19:02] | <omega8cc> | because it is the db server configured in hostmaster |
| [20:19:40] | <omega8cc> | step 0 listed above |
| [20:21:01] | <tdm04> | I have 000, 001, and 002 directories in /var/aegir/host_master ... nginx points to 001 which looks like it has old files.. 002 has newer files but nothing points to it |
| [20:21:32] | <tdm04> | would I be able to export thesites from the old server and import them into the new one? |
| [20:21:36] | <omega8cc> | you are adding server via control panel |
| [20:21:36] | <tdm04> | I have like.. 50 sites :( |
| [20:22:00] | <omega8cc> | you can migrate them |
| [20:22:13] | <omega8cc> | not export/import |
| [20:22:43] | <omega8cc> | check https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/blob/master/docs/REMOTE.txt |
| [20:24:16] | <tdm04> | well, I've actually managed to move the sites to the new server.. all the sites work (I checked with a modified /etc/hosts).. it's just Aegir (master.example.com) that won't load |
| [20:27:42] | <tdm04> | I just copied the entire /var/aegir dir over |
| [20:28:02] | <tdm04> | edited about 100 files (drush and settings.php) to point to new DB server |
| [20:28:17] | <tdm04> | updated aegir master tables to point to new db server (hosting* tables) |
| [20:28:31] | <tdm04> | and all in all the sites work.. it's just Aegir itself not loading |
| [20:29:31] | <omega8cc> | you are using master Aegir instance to host sites? |
| [20:29:38] | <tdm04> | yep |
| [20:29:49] | <omega8cc> | we don’t recommend it |
| [20:29:56] | <tdm04> | :/ |
| [20:30:09] | <tdm04> | those sites need to be on a satellite instance or something? |
| [20:30:22] | <omega8cc> | there is no point in migrating Aegir, you should only migrate sites, using the docs |
| [20:30:45] | <tdm04> | our drupal devs still need to use drupal to bootstrap new sites |
| [20:30:47] | <omega8cc> | yes, it is explained in the docs and many tickets, I believe |
| [20:31:41] | <tdm04> | hmmmm |
| [20:32:51] | <omega8cc> | otherwise, why we have created Octopus? |
| [20:33:20] | <tdm04> | omega8cc: so having the sites on the same instance with the master aegir is a bad thing? |
| [20:33:27] | <omega8cc> | it was discussed on g.d.o and issue queue |
| [20:34:03] | <omega8cc> | you shouldn’t use master instance for anytging |
| [20:34:14] | <omega8cc> | only satellites |
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| [20:34:43] | <tdm04> | ok |
| [20:35:24] | <tdm04> | omega8cc: does a satellite server have to run BOA too? |
| [20:39:34] | <omega8cc> | please read the readme and/or project pages, you seem to confuse very basic stuff/concepts |
| [20:40:02] | <omega8cc> | there is no satellite server |
| [20:41:03] | <omega8cc> | it is explained and the top of the project page and readme |
| [20:41:50] | <tdm04> | omega8cc: ok.. so I can still use a remote DB for the sites? But keep the Aegir master instance using localhost/mariadb? |
| [20:42:04] | <omega8cc> | no |
| [20:43:30] | <tdm04> | instance 1: Master Aegir instance w/ localhost mysql (MariaDB) |
| [20:43:51] | <tdm04> | Instance 2: Also running BOA (no master aegir) w/ sites pointing to Amazon RDS |
| [20:43:54] | <tdm04> | is that possible? |
| [20:45:24] | <tdm04> | instance 2 I'd just install the octopus instances, right? |
| [20:45:33] | <tdm04> | I'm just trying to get this all straight |
| [20:47:12] | <omega8cc> | Aegir instances in BOA are not servers, again, please read the readme |
| [20:48:04] | <omega8cc> | just read https://drupal.org/project/barracuda and https://drupal.org/project/octopus |
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| [20:49:07] | <omega8cc> | BOA doesn’t support remote db servers, it is designed for a single system approach (at least for now) |
| [20:49:29] | <tdm04> | ok one last question.. can I migrate a site to another server without it being deleted off the original instance? |
| [20:49:45] | <tdm04> | (because.. DNS issues, downtime, etc) |
| [20:50:18] | <omega8cc> | sure, just migrate it using docs/REMOTE.txt and switch DNS when done |
| [20:50:50] | <omega8cc> | you will have the site both on source and target system, it doesn’t delete anything |
| [20:51:38] | <tdm04> | awesome.. perfect! thanks |
| [20:53:28] | <omega8cc> | np |
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| [21:55:45] | <tdm04> | omega8cc: the BOA and Octopus INSTALL.txt is the same steps.. how would I differentiate in installing a master aegir instance vs installing just a satellite type instance? Or do both instances need BOA installed regardless? |
| [22:02:30] | <omega8cc> | BOA is Barracuda+Octopus+Aegir, you install it all in a one batch |
| [22:03:36] | <omega8cc> | tdm04: have you really read the project pages? |
| [22:03:40] | <tdm04> | yes |
| [22:03:45] | <tdm04> | th einstructins are the same |
| [22:04:04] | <omega8cc> | no, I mean project pages, not the INSTALL.txt |
| [22:04:06] | <tdm04> | I just need to conceptualize in my head what makes an instance an Aegir master and what makes it a "satellite" octopus one |
| [22:04:29] | <omega8cc> | then read the project pages again |
| [22:04:51] | <omega8cc> | https://drupal.org/project/barracuda and https://drupal.org/project/octopus |
| [22:05:50] | <omega8cc> | in short, just forget that the Aegir Master Instance exists, just don’t care about it |
| [22:06:13] | <tdm04> | ahh ok |
| [22:06:43] | <tdm04> | so basically rolling sites out to the satellite system it just like an Aegir-to-Aegir migration? |
| [22:06:45] | <omega8cc> | it holds the central Nginx config for all satellites, but it shoulnd’t be really used for anything else |
| [22:08:30] | <omega8cc> | almost, but could be done much simpler, just move all platforms and sites to the octopus instance (on the same system) fix ownership on dirs/files and add these platforms in octopus, then delete dupliacte vhosts on master and reload nginx, done |
| [22:11:13] | <tdm04> | Hmmm.. right now I have a Master Aegir system with sites on it. I am breaking that up into a smaller instance just running Aegir Master, and a separate VM instance that is extra-large to run the actual sites themselves. |
| [22:11:22] | <omega8cc> | you can easily move files between all Aegir instances on the same system, no need to export/import anything |
| [22:11:51] | <omega8cc> | don’t confuse Aegir instances with VMs |
| [22:12:28] | <omega8cc> | BOA is designed to host everything on the s ame system |
| [22:12:30] | <tdm04> | but you said running Master Aegir instance on same VM as the sites is not recommended? |
| [22:12:41] | <omega8cc> | I didn’t say that |
| [22:12:59] | <omega8cc> | you shouldn’t use master for anything |
| [22:13:36] | <omega8cc> | I said that you shouldn’t use master instance for sites. that is all |
| [22:14:10] | <omega8cc> | really, read th |
| [22:14:14] | <omega8cc> | the project pages |
| [22:14:17] | <omega8cc> | again |
| [22:14:20] | <omega8cc> | :) |
| [22:14:28] | <tdm04> | master instance == master.somedomain.com, yes? The Aegir Master |
| [22:14:55] | <tdm04> | we're running 50 sites using Drupal multisite (sites.php) |
| [22:15:08] | <omega8cc> | I can’t explain it better than it is already explained on the project pages |
| [22:15:43] | <omega8cc> | read it over and over until you will *click* ;) |
| [22:28:30] | <tdm04> | omega8cc: ok I think I get it now.. I just need to migrate sites off one VM onto another (BOA 2.0.9 -> BOA 2.2.5 VM) I think.. because the BOA 2.0.9 config is utterly broken |
| [22:29:07] | <tdm04> | the person who set it up (my predecessor) actually installed it on Ubuntu and put php5-* packages on it somehow and disabled BOA's compiled PHP! |
| [22:29:28] | <tdm04> | so I wanted to set up a fresh Debian VM (Debian 7) and use that |
| [22:29:39] | <omega8cc> | pretty silly, indeed, but why not to just run upgrade? |
| [22:29:58] | <tdm04> | client doesn't want down time |
| [22:30:03] | <omega8cc> | just upgrade barracuda and it will force its stuff |
| [22:30:18] | <omega8cc> | there is no downtime during barracuda upgrade |
| [22:30:19] | <tdm04> | will it remove php5-* packages? |
| [22:30:23] | <omega8cc> | yes |
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| [22:30:59] | <omega8cc> | so there can be a few minutes downtime max, much less then whe you will try to migrate sites etc |
| [22:31:19] | <tdm04> | makes sense |
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