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| [12:05:50] | <chertzog_> | arosboro: ping |
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| [12:25:58] | <Francewhoa> | Hi all, I'm trying to install Aegir for the first time on Debian 7.4 at 64 bit. Using the auto install. I'm following the instructions at http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/debian#Adding_the_project_r... When trying to add the project repositories Terminal returns the following error message: |
| [12:25:58] | <Francewhoa> | sudo: unable to resolve host (none) |
| [12:25:59] | <Francewhoa> | deb http://debian.aegirproject.org stable main |
| [12:26:17] | <Francewhoa> | Should read Debian 7.5 at 64 bits |
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| [12:34:26] | <Francewhoa> | I might have found the source of the issue the FQDN is not configured. It's a new server. Aegir requires a FQDN. |
| [13:04:05] | <aindilis`> | turned out I had copied the vagrant script to a new machine and accidentally was running two machines with the same IP. |
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| [19:14:38] | <batfastad> | Hi everyone. How many sites do you typically run on an aegir server with a separate DB server? Our Aegir box is 8 core with 6GB ram and has 58 sites, and rising |
| [19:15:24] | <batfastad> | Load and mem usage on the box is fine, we serve about 30 req/s at the moment. I will be introducing a varnish/nginx reverse caching layer shortly |
| [19:16:30] | <batfastad> | But is there a limit to the number of sites/databases that Aegir can handle on one box? |
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| [20:04:58] | <abyshakes> | batfastad: its solely on how busy those sites are from my knowledge :) |
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| [20:42:46] | <batfastad> | abyshakes: I think we were hitting i/o limits because of the number of tables, made noticeable by a back-end storage problem on our production platform. Each drupal site has 200+ tables so that's something we'll have to be aware of |
| [20:44:25] | <batfastad> | Of the 58, there's only about 8 that have any sort of constant load. Overally Apache's serving <20 req/sec including static stuff which is nothing. So we're probably fine until we hit another DB bottleneck. |
| [20:45:11] | <batfastad> | However it's definitely not sensible for us to be running all sites on one box long-term. Caching layer then afterwards probably a second Aegir server to split the risk |
| [20:45:52] | <batfastad> | Is it possible to run a second Aegir server and migrate sites between them? Because that would be very cool |
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| [21:02:03] | <kristofferwiklun> | batfastad, : There is the possibility to have a master AEgir server and a client server where you can put sites. But it has some small bugs and all drush work is done from the master server. But there is a better solution: |
| [21:02:04] | <kristofferwiklun> | https://drupal.org/project/remote_import |
| [21:02:21] | <kristofferwiklun> | Install two seperate Aegir servers. And the remote import site between servers. |
| [21:02:40] | <kristofferwiklun> | All you need is a ssh-access using keys. |
| [21:02:46] | <kristofferwiklun> | Works great |
| [21:03:01] | <batfastad> | Only available for drupal 6? |
| [21:03:08] | <batfastad> | Oh of course, aegir is drupal 6 |
| [21:03:15] | <kristofferwiklun> | We use it from moving site from our developer machine to the production machine |
| [21:10:42] | <kristofferwiklun> | So it is not a bad pratice to have two servers of Aegir. In case one goes down you can restore thoses site on the other. |
| [21:29:16] | <abyshakes> | kristofferwiklun++ thanks didnt know that batfastad |
| [21:32:58] | <abyshakes> | batfastad: varnish/nginx will def help :) |
| [21:35:55] | <batfastad> | Anyone got any good configs for setting up a multi-site varnish? So as we add new sites to aegir it's simple to add to varnish? |
| [21:38:19] | <abyshakes> | batfastad: theres lots on github :) |
| [21:39:51] | <abyshakes> | batfastad: i need to make one too, i'll share mine when i decide to cook it |
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| [22:05:25] | <batfastad> | abyshakes: yeah lots of varnish configs out there - that's my main problem :D |
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| [01:20:12] | <arosboro> | chertzog: ping |
| [01:20:22] | <chertzog> | arosboro: pong |
| [01:20:35] | <arosboro> | hey |
| [01:20:35] | <hefring> | hola |
| [01:20:39] | <arosboro> | hi |
| [01:20:42] | <chertzog> | whats up |
| [01:20:59] | <arosboro> | I think I'm gonna spin that sandbox up |
| [01:21:08] | <chertzog> | for what? |
| [01:21:13] | <arosboro> | cloud files |
| [01:21:40] | <chertzog> | why do you need a separate box? |
| [01:21:45] | <arosboro> | should we delineate into hosting_cloud_files and provision_hosting_cloud_files |
| [01:21:48] | <arosboro> | no sandbox project |
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| [01:22:07] | <chertzog> | does it need a provision back end? |
| [01:22:18] | <arosboro> | I'm just looking at provision hosting injections |
| [01:22:31] | <chertzog> | ok |
| [01:22:32] | <arosboro> | and I think provision is needed to access vhosts |
| [01:22:36] | <chertzog> | then yes |
| [01:23:04] | <chertzog> | it would hosting_cloud_files and provision_cloud_files |
| [01:23:10] | <arosboro> | ok |
| [01:23:39] | <arosboro> | what should we do about the dependency for cloud_files in the platform? |
| [01:23:57] | <arosboro> | is there a way to check platforms to see if the module exists before we provision a site's vhost? |
| [01:24:17] | <chertzog> | we could. but why does it matter |
| [01:24:34] | <arosboro> | I don't know it wouldn't make sense to make a container for a site that can't use it |
| [01:24:44] | <chertzog> | it wouldnt hurt to have the empty container |
| [01:24:51] | <arosboro> | empty containers cost nothing |
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| [01:24:53] | <arosboro> | ? |
| [01:25:02] | <chertzog> | correct |
| [01:25:05] | <arosboro> | ok |
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| [01:28:45] | <arosboro> | is there any problem with taking imagry from rackspace? |
| [01:28:53] | <arosboro> | for the project page |
| [01:30:14] | <chertzog> | i doubt it. |
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| [01:46:07] | <arosboro> | chertzog: https://drupal.org/node/2283677 |
| [01:46:08] | <hefring> | https://drupal.org/node/2283677 => Hosting Cloud Files => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [01:47:29] | <chertzog> | nice |
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| [02:01:05] | <cweagans> | . |
| [02:01:11] | <cweagans> | Good morning, everyone :) |
| [02:04:36] | <chertzog> | morning |
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| [02:12:10] | <arosboro> | morning |
| [02:12:30] | <arosboro> | chertzog: is there any issue with starting two sandbox projects and getting them accepted when they are dependencies of each other? |
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| [02:16:34] | <chertzog> | not really. But you only need 1 to get approved. So i would go with just the hosting part |
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| [02:23:05] | <arosboro> | so I can start two projects since they may be dependencies, but only approve the hosting part and then promote the provision part on my own? |
| [02:23:27] | <chertzog> | yep |
| [02:24:11] | <arosboro> | what kind of branch should I work off of? 7.x-dev ? |
| [02:25:37] | <chertzog> | i would do 7.x-1.x-dev |
| [02:28:46] | <arosboro> | chertzog: is there an easy way to get master to ref/track that branch? |
| [02:29:45] | <arosboro> | after that I think I'm good to get started writing some code |
| [02:33:48] | <chertzog> | last i knew, drupal.org doesnt want you to use master branch at all |
| [02:33:57] | <arosboro> | ok I'll leave it |
| [02:34:08] | <cweagans> | you don't need -dev on the branch name |
| [02:34:13] | <cweagans> | just 7.x-1.x |
| [02:34:23] | <cweagans> | also, I'd recommend matching whatever the Aegir version is |
| [02:34:33] | <cweagans> | so if you're doing Aegir 3 extensions, use something like 7.x-3.x |
| [02:34:45] | <cweagans> | Aegir 2 would be 6.x-2.x |
| [02:36:41] | <arosboro> | hmm git branch -d origin/7.x-1.x-dev doesn't work. any suggestions |
| [02:37:52] | <arosboro> | git push origin :7.x-1.x-dev ? |
| [02:38:51] | <arosboro> | yeah nice |
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| [03:08:34] | <cweagans> | arosboro: when you get your extension to the point where you want it reviewed, let me know and I'll take a look. I think I have git permission powers on Drupal.org, so I can review and give you permission to promote your project to a full project. |
| [03:08:51] | <arosboro> | cweagans, that's awesome thanks |
| [03:09:08] | <cweagans> | If I'm not online, you can always drop me a note through my contact form on d.o |
| [03:09:13] | <arosboro> | k |
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| [03:12:28] | <chertzog> | cweagans: can hosting_storage leverage something like cloud_files? |
| [03:13:15] | <cweagans> | chertzog: hosting_storage is incomplete right now, but in theory yes, assuming there's some way to mount it as a filesystem. |
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| [03:13:29] | <chertzog> | ok |
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| [03:26:52] | <arosboro> | cweagons, are database credentials etc stored anywhere other than vhost? Are they in $node->configs as well? |
| [03:27:20] | <arosboro> | I want to use server variables for the sensitive cloud files credentials |
| [03:27:39] | <arosboro> | looking at hosting_injections as a guide |
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| [03:34:20] | <arosboro> | nvm, it looks like configs isn't an aegir thing |
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| [03:57:12] | <cweagans> | arosboro: database creds are also stored in the frontend db, IIRC. |
| [03:58:47] | <cweagans> | arosboro: you probably don't need to worry about it too much, though. If your server is compromised to the point where people can read db creds from either the hostmaster db or from the vhost, anywhere that you could feasibly put your cloud files creds is probably also compromised. |
| [03:59:01] | <cweagans> | arosboro: better to just get it working for now, and then improve security and such later. |
| [03:59:20] | <cweagans> | security being secure storage of credentials, I mean. |
| [03:59:35] | <cweagans> | ergonlogic: ping |
| [03:59:53] | <cweagans> | helmo: also ping |
| [04:00:09] | <ergonlogic> | cweagans: pong |
| [04:00:20] | <cweagans> | do either of you guys plan to go to Amsterdam this year? Session submission deadline is Friday, and I'd love to get an Aegir session into the mix :) |
| [04:00:41] | <ergonlogic> | cweagans: I'll know by the end of the day, in all likelihood |
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| [04:04:51] | <cweagans> | sweet! keep me posted :) |
| [04:05:16] | <arosboro> | cweagans, I'll create a table for them then. is hosting_name the same as uri that provision uses? I need a way to identify the site node in hook_provision_drupal_config |
| [04:05:18] | <cweagans> | ergonlogic: if you're going, maybe we can block out some time in the next day or two to put together a session submission? |
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| [04:10:09] | <chertzog> | arosboro: in hook_provision_drupal_config: |
| [04:10:13] | <chertzog> | $task =& drush_get_option('site_task', ''); |
| [04:10:13] | <chertzog> | $task = unserialize($task); |
| [04:10:13] | <chertzog> | $site = node_load($task->rid); |
| [04:10:29] | <arosboro> | thanks chertzog |
| [04:11:10] | <chertzog> | there may be a better way, but thats what i thought of first |
| [04:11:23] | <ergonlogic> | cweagans: yep |
| [04:13:30] | <ergonlogic> | cweagans: fyi, here's the session I'd proposed to Austin: https://austin2014.drupal.org/session/drop-tidal-wave-aegir-hosting-system |
| [04:13:36] | <ergonlogic> | as a starting point |
| [04:14:15] | <arosboro> | $conf['variable_name'] can be substituded for variable_get in settings.php correct? |
| [04:14:16] | <ergonlogic> | also: https://austin2014.drupal.org/session/do-multi-site-pros |
| [04:14:24] | <chertzog> | yep |
| [04:15:13] | <chertzog> | actuall doing $conf['variable'] in settings.php prevents the variable from being changed at all i believe |
| [04:18:14] | <arosboro> | I'm gonna keep it simple then |
| [04:19:17] | <chertzog> | for the use case, i think setting $conf['variable'] in settings.php is still the way to go. you dont want client sites messing with it |
| [04:19:18] | <cweagans> | arosboro: chertzog: you should definitely avoid doing a node_load in the backend. |
| [04:19:53] | <arosboro> | cweagans how about a db_query? |
| [04:20:32] | <chertzog> | i would have to believe that the site node is available somewhere in the drush options during install |
| [04:20:46] | <cweagans> | Nope. You'll want to use hook_hosting_platform_context_options to set specific pieces of data that the backend will need. |
| [04:20:59] | <cweagans> | You can look at hosting_platform_git and provision_platform_git for a relatively simple usage example. |
| [04:21:21] | <arosboro> | ok, thanks |
| [04:21:35] | <cweagans> | chertzog: arosboro: the backend should be able to function completely independently of the frontend site, so you shouldn't introduce any dependencies there (in terms of node_load or db_query or anything like that) |
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| [04:26:52] | <chertzog> | arosboro: i wont be able to make it over today. i forgot about some stuff i had to take care today |
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| [04:29:16] | <chertzog> | arosboro: for what we are doing with cloud files i think you want hook_hosting_site_context_options |
| [04:29:17] | <chertzog> | http://api.aegirproject.org/api/aegir/hosting3%21site%21hosting_site.dru... |
| [04:29:30] | <chertzog> | instead of platform context options |
| [04:32:03] | <arosboro> | does that work with hook_provision_drupal_config |
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| [04:33:05] | <chertzog> | yeah. in hook_hosting_site_context_options: |
| [04:33:42] | <chertzog> | $task->context_options['cloud_files_data'] = db_query('....')->fetchObect() |
| [04:33:57] | <chertzog> | then in hook_provision_drupal_config |
| [04:34:14] | <arosboro> | I'm currently thinking of generating the cdn domain during hook_node_insert/hook_node_update only if it's not already in the db |
| [04:34:18] | <chertzog> | $data =& drush_get_option('cloud_files_data', ''); |
| [04:34:53] | <chertzog> | that would work |
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| [04:59:54] | <arosboro> | chertzog: drush_hook_provision_drupal_config already provides $data, do I need to call drush_get_option still? |
| [05:00:26] | <chertzog> | not sure. inspect the $data variable and check |
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| [05:43:35] | <arosboro> | chertzog: ping |
| [05:43:42] | <chertzog> | arosboro: pong |
| [05:43:47] | <arosboro> | do you have RACKSPACE_US? |
| [05:43:49] | <arosboro> | the value? |
| [05:44:52] | <chertzog> | no |
| [05:45:56] | <arosboro> | is that provided by php-opencloud? |
| [05:46:31] | <chertzog> | i believe so |
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| [06:05:32] | <arosboro> | chertzog ok, done writing my code time to test :) |
| [06:07:08] | <chertzog> | in admin.inc your api form key is wring |
| [06:07:10] | <chertzog> | wrong |
| [06:07:21] | <chertzog> | too much copy/paste |
| [06:10:15] | <chertzog> | arosboro: do you have the provision piece written as well? |
| [06:18:23] | <arosboro> | no, hosting_cloud_files_provision_drupal_config was the only function I that that would need to go into provision |
| [06:19:57] | <arosboro> | can you access the repo? |
| [06:20:02] | <chertzog> | yep |
| [06:20:10] | <chertzog> | i havent tried to push anything though |
| [06:24:26] | <arosboro> | I noticed it asked my for a password to clone |
| [06:25:07] | <arosboro> | I didn't think one hook was enough to warrant a separate provision module |
| [06:29:28] | <arosboro> | waiting for rackspace to call and activate my account :-\ |
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