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| [18:30:13] | <helmo> | The project's server for the Debian repo's and Jenkins is going for reboot in a few minutes ... |
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| [21:55:40] | <jonpugh> | ergonlogic et al: have you seen Rocketeer? http://rocketeer.autopergamene.eu/ |
| [21:55:55] | <ergonlogic> | I had not |
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| [22:11:13] | <jonpugh> | stumbled on it yesterday when doing research on packagist.org |
| [22:13:49] | <jonpugh> | no mention of creating databases :) |
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| [22:20:28] | <jonpugh> | laravel has some pretty cool stuff |
| [22:21:13] | <jonpugh> | https://github.com/laravel/envoy |
| [22:21:15] | <jonpugh> | "Elegant SSH tasks for PHP." |
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| [22:50:54] | <batfastad> | I've got one Aegir site now running through haproxy, so we have a separate SSL termination layer instead of Aegir. But I notice in the sessions DB table that the IP address of the load balancer is always shown in sessions.hostname |
| [22:50:55] | <batfastad> | The site seems to work ok, I've not noticed any problems with sessions being overwritten/logged out by other users. |
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| [22:51:30] | <batfastad> | have added the following to settings.php (or local.settings.php as required by Aegir) but still get the load balancer's IP. Anyone know how to fix this? |
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| [22:54:05] | <batfastad> | I suppose technically haproxy isn't reverse proxying |
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| [23:35:52] | <mvc> | goumbot: what are you doing here? |
| [23:36:02] | <anarcat> | not much |
| [23:36:09] | <mvc> | does anarcat know you escaped from #koumbit ? :) |
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| [23:53:29] | <adrinux> | Any idea why /var/aegir/config/nginx.conf wouldn't be created during install? |
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| [00:02:52] | <gboudrias> | adrinux: Which version? |
| [00:02:59] | <adrinux> | Sneaking suspicion my problem lies with hostname/ip resolution etc. |
| [00:03:09] | <adrinux> | 2.1 |
| [00:03:30] | <adrinux> | gboudrias: on ubuntu 14.04 via a manual install |
| [00:05:05] | <gboudrias> | adrinux: Well I don't usually expect manual installs to work as well. Do you have a link to the install instructions you used? |
| [00:05:18] | <gboudrias> | (nginx is still not as tested as apache) |
| [00:06:03] | <adrinux> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/389 |
| [00:07:12] | <adrinux> | gboudrias: this is more an installation problem than an nginx one I think |
| [00:10:05] | <adrinux> | debug output during install refers to --remote_host= instead of localhost. maybe thats the issue |
| [00:11:17] | <gboudrias> | Perhaps |
| [00:11:35] | <gboudrias> | I can't imagine that no one else would've noticed |
| [00:12:12] | <gboudrias> | oh wait |
| [00:12:24] | <gboudrias> | ln -s /var/aegir/config/nginx.conf /etc/nginx/conf.d/aegir.conf is in the instructions |
| [00:12:34] | <adrinux> | yep, and that exists |
| [00:12:39] | <adrinux> | the symlink that is |
| [00:13:17] | <gboudrias> | adrinux: I missed part of the conversation I think, what else isn't working? |
| [00:13:20] | <adrinux> | but /var/aegir/config/nginx.conf isn't actually being created during hostmaster-install |
| [00:13:41] | <adrinux> | there are no errors during hostmaster-install either |
| [00:14:11] | <gboudrias> | I guess it's worth opening an issue, but that's probably only a problem during manual install, as the debian package probably handles that part |
| [00:14:41] | <adrinux> | I get the feeling I'm just doing something wrong :) |
| [00:15:04] | <adrinux> | I'll try a few more things before I submit an issue |
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| [00:15:12] | <gboudrias> | Hard to tell, but please document your findings :) |
| [00:15:21] | <adrinux> | thanks for looking gboudrias |
| [00:15:26] | <gboudrias> | np |
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| [00:29:51] | <dob_> | Can i move from a manual installation to a automatic install? |
| [00:30:51] | <gboudrias> | dob_: Just for the sake of someone who knows about this answering, what do you mean? You mean installing the debian package after a manual install? |
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| [00:32:15] | <dob_> | gboudrias: yes |
| [00:35:46] | <gboudrias> | dob_: http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading/debian |
| [00:36:06] | <gboudrias> | From http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/debian : If you wish to install Debian packages over an existing manual install, it's possible. See the Debian upgrade procedures. |
| [00:36:50] | <gboudrias> | I don't know how up-to-date that info is, but maybe try that out |
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| [01:10:35] | <dob_> | apt-get install failed the first time. Now i get A Drupal installation directory could not be found when doing apt-get -f install |
| [01:13:13] | <dob_> | ? |
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| [01:30:47] | <dob_> | Hello? |
| [01:30:47] | <hefring> | hi |
| [01:31:12] | <dob_> | Can somebody help me? My aegir has killed itself again. |
| [01:31:23] | <dob_> | apt-get install failed the first time. Now i get A Drupal installation directory could not be found when doing apt-get -f install |
| [01:32:05] | <adrinux> | dob_: which OS? debian? |
| [01:32:14] | <dob_> | ubuntu |
| [01:32:27] | <adrinux> | and you're root when running these commands? |
| [01:32:40] | <dob_> | Yes, i am! |
| [01:32:49] | <adrinux> | sorry, just checking |
| [01:32:58] | <dob_> | :-) |
| [01:33:20] | * adrinux is also trying to install on ubuntu trusty right now |
| [01:33:21] | <arosboro> | I didn't use the apt packages but it sounds like /var/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-2.x is missing |
| [01:33:30] | <dob_> | I hope i will be able to get aegir up and running again. Had that two times in the last two years that a upgrade failed. |
| [01:33:52] | <adrinux> | I've opted for a manual install too |
| [01:34:20] | <arosboro> | can you run drush sa |
| [01:34:30] | <arosboro> | and see if hm is there |
| [01:34:45] | <dob_> | First i had a manual installation, now i tried the packages, cause i had trouble. Could be possible that it was already fucked up before doing the package installation |
| [01:35:29] | <adrinux> | you'll probably want to start fresh each time yes |
| [01:36:11] | <dob_> | @platform_drupal725dev, aegir.mydomain.com |
| [01:36:20] | <dob_> | are listed with drush sa |
| [01:36:57] | <dob_> | so i will have to create a new installation and import all platforms again? |
| [01:37:01] | <dob_> | What can i do? |
| [01:37:43] | <dob_> | also @self and @server master are listed. |
| [01:38:31] | <adrinux> | dob_: why import platforms till you're sure its working? |
| [01:39:22] | <dob_> | adrinux: no, i have no running aegir right now. I want to know what i can do. My idea now is that everything is fucked up and i need to purge the packages and reinstall it. The import all platforms again |
| [01:39:28] | <dob_> | I have no idea... |
| [01:40:04] | <dob_> | purge is also not possible |
| [01:40:08] | <adrinux> | purge packages, and make sure you remove any cruft from manual config I guess |
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| [01:40:48] | <adrinux> | personally I'm using ansible, so eveytime it majorly fscks up I just rebuild the whole server |
| [01:40:59] | <dob_> | purge failes with the same errors like the installation |
| [01:42:39] | <dob_> | it's so awesome ;-) |
| [01:46:21] | <dob_> | How can i fix : A Drupal installation directory could not be found |
| [01:46:32] | <dob_> | while running the apt-get |
| [01:46:44] | <dob_> | i need to fix it or i am not able to remove or install. |
| [01:46:48] | <dob_> | everything fails. |
| [01:48:07] | <mvc> | dob_: i'm not sure how you got into that state but in general i've worked around this category of problem with debian packages by commenting out lines of the post rm script |
| [01:48:35] | <dob_> | mvc: where can i find this script? |
| [01:49:30] | <adrinux> | dob_: maybe try a force install followed by remove? |
| [01:50:04] | <mvc> | dob_: look for the .postrm & .prerm scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| [01:50:25] | * mvc suggests completely purging the package first, then re-installing |
| [01:50:40] | <mvc> | dob_: your error is being generated somewhere in there |
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| [02:23:41] | <batfastad> | Wow - varnish is awesome! |
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| [02:27:43] | <gboudrias> | batfastad: So it goes :P |
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| [02:27:58] | <gboudrias> | What in particular is awesome about it? |
| [02:28:30] | <arosboro> | round robin load balancing? |
| [02:28:49] | <batfastad> | the speed is amazing |
| [02:29:01] | <arosboro> | it will slow down when you log in though |
| [02:29:37] | <batfastad> | yep. It will only slow down to our normal pre-varnish speed though, right? |
| [02:29:52] | <arosboro> | sure unless you have multiple servers then it may be slightly faster |
| [02:30:00] | <arosboro> | multiple web backends* |
| [02:31:01] | <arosboro> | but it's hard to measure other than that's it's fast |
| [02:31:15] | <batfastad> | What I don't quite understand though is that when making requests through varnish I'm adding an X-Varnish-Cache: HIT to the headers, but I still notice a GET on the web backend |
| [02:31:40] | <arosboro> | checkout redis for variable storage when you've figured out varnish |
| [02:31:59] | <arosboro> | does that happen every request? |
| [02:32:06] | <batfastad> | Pretty much |
| [02:32:35] | <arosboro> | I think the command varnishlog may help |
| [02:32:57] | <batfastad> | Yeah |
| [02:34:09] | <batfastad> | Also Drupal is sending an Expires: 19 Nov 1978 no the html page, even though Drupal built-in caching is set to cache pages for anonymous users (30min / 1hr). My understanding is that should tell varnish to not cache? |
| [02:35:08] | <gboudrias> | batfastad: Yeah I got that as well, I think it's a drupal thing |
| [02:35:28] | <batfastad> | I mean varnish is saying a hit. Just a bit weird. |
| [02:35:44] | <gboudrias> | batfastad: no-cache seems to be the default if you leave both times to "none" |
| [02:35:48] | <gboudrias> | It is |
| [02:37:02] | <gboudrias> | I mean, there's probably something weird going on with the config, I didn't think to check the web backend because I was getting HITs |
| [02:37:27] | <gboudrias> | Let me know if you find anything |
| [02:37:38] | <batfastad> | Yeah I'll keep digging on that tmrw |
| [02:37:40] | <gboudrias> | Also I seem to remember nginx does round robin load balancing as well :P |
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| [02:37:50] | <gboudrias> | AND caching. And web serving. And SSL. |
| [02:38:00] | <gboudrias> | I really have to test that at some point |
| [02:38:07] | <batfastad> | yeah I looked at nginx but varnish seemed to be popular with drupal |
| [02:38:20] | <batfastad> | We have SSL terminating in haproxy |
| [02:38:34] | <gboudrias> | It is, because it's simpler for just static caching I think |
| [02:38:43] | <gboudrias> | But nginx allows you to compound all those tools into one |
| [02:38:54] | <gboudrias> | Not too bad if you can figure it out |
| [02:39:39] | <gboudrias> | (Well, idk, nginx is also pretty simple for static caching, if you have 2 layers of nginx) |
| [02:39:43] | <batfastad> | Yeah if we didn't already have an haproxy infrastructure in place for SSL/SNI then I probably would have gone with nginx. But the fact that we don't need SSL on the cache meant varnish was the one |
| [02:40:01] | <gboudrias> | Good point |
| [02:40:20] | <batfastad> | I had a brief go with nginx but was put off by the fact that it looked like I would have to add config for each new Aegir site. |
| [02:40:47] | <batfastad> | Which leads me on to my next question... now I've got my default.vcl, I don't need to setup each vhost/Aegir site in varnish do I? |
| [02:41:37] | <batfastad> | So when deploying a new Aegir site, all i need to do is point the DNS to our varnish box. No adding config each time in varnish? |
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| [02:41:41] | <gboudrias> | batfastad: Depends on how you set it up |
| [02:41:44] | <gboudrias> | But yes generally right |
| [02:42:21] | <gboudrias> | But you do have to configure each Drupal site to actually allow Varnish to cache it (which is NOT the default afaict!) |
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| [02:42:37] | <batfastad> | Ah - really? |
| [02:42:52] | <gboudrias> | That's my experience. That's not aegir-specific though. |
| [02:42:58] | <gboudrias> | batfastad: You can test it out reallly easily |
| [02:43:01] | <batfastad> | I basically just turned on Drupal's built-in caching (database) as I normally do |
| [02:43:18] | <gboudrias> | hmmm I don't know if that's the part that matters |
| [02:43:21] | <batfastad> | Oh I did add the reverse_proxy and IPs to local.settings.php |
| [02:43:34] | <batfastad> | But I'm not running the varnish drupal module yet |
| [02:43:40] | <gboudrias> | No you don't need it |
| [02:44:11] | <batfastad> | I thought the module was just for clever purging and acting as a cache back-end. I quite like them being de-coupled |
| [02:44:27] | <gboudrias> | But what matters as far as I could tell was to have the minimum cache time and expiry time (or whatever it's called) set to something else than the default (none) |
| [02:44:34] | <gboudrias> | you're right about that |
| [02:44:52] | <gboudrias> | You just don't necessarily need it |
| [02:45:20] | <gboudrias> | I've heard it helps because then you can set your cache times very high and it tells varnish what to refresh |
| [02:45:30] | <gboudrias> | But it also works without it |
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| [02:46:17] | <gboudrias> | The thing I'm complaining about is that the default Drupal setting will return a no-cache header, which Varnish "must not" ignore |
| [02:46:20] | <gboudrias> | Or something |
| [02:46:33] | <gboudrias> | I think maybe Pressflow d7 fixes that |
| [02:46:40] | <gboudrias> | I don't know yet but I wouldn't be surprised |
| [02:52:28] | <batfastad> | We're running Drupal 7 and I'm not seeing a no-cache coming out. Just an Expires in the past - which I thought clients would also respect and not cache. First thing I did was enable drupal caching to our standard 30mins/1hr and it seems to be working |
| [02:52:59] | <batfastad> | Anyway... got to run now. Varnish is a win for today and we need some of those with Drupal :D |
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| [03:10:21] | <gboudrias> | Hmm strange |
| [03:10:24] | <gboudrias> | Good to know though |
| [03:10:34] | <gboudrias> | Thanks |
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| [05:03:38] | <chertzog> | arosboro: ping |
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| [05:25:16] | <gboudrias> | We created an Aegir3-dev vagrant base box if anyone wants to test it: https://vagrantcloud.com/PraxisLabs/aegirdev-debian-7.4-32bit.box/version/1 |
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| [06:08:02] | <arosboro> | chertzog: pong |
| [06:08:29] | <chertzog> | how long are you guys going to be in the office this evening? |
| [06:09:14] | <arosboro> | andrew's on site doing an install but we made good progress on the platform last night |
| [06:09:30] | <chertzog> | nice |
| [06:09:50] | <arosboro> | I'm here for a while now, you should come check it out |
| [06:10:17] | <chertzog> | i have a meeting directly after work at about 5 or so. Im not sure how long that will take |
| [06:10:30] | <arosboro> | no problem |
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| [06:21:54] | <arosboro> | chertzog: got the git repo configured for platform |
| [06:22:01] | <chertzog> | nice |
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