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[17:21:18]<tdm4>can anyone help me upgrade BOA 2.0.9 -> 2.2.5? I get this very unhelpful message when I try: http://pastebin.com/Sy4XeudP
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[18:34:45]<helmo>hefring: tell ergonlogic: please note https://drupal.org/node/2285739
[18:34:45]<hefring>https://drupal.org/node/2285739 => Invalid shortname prevents editing aegir-up project page [#2285739] => Aegir-up (Vagrant-based Aegir virtual machine)</td><td>» Drupal.org webmasters, Miscellaneous</td><td>» Broken link, , Active</td><td>» Fixed, 5 comments, 1 IRC mention
[18:34:45]<hefring>helmo: I'll pass that on when ergonlogic is around.
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[03:53:16]<omega8cc>hefring: tell tdm4: you should run full, not just system upgrade, it is also a bad idea to skip so many releases: https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/blob/master/docs/UPGRADE.txt#L3
[03:53:16]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when tdm4 is around.
[03:55:39]<omega8cc>hefring: tell tdm4: also, rm -f /root/BOA.sh.txt and then run cd;wget -q -U iCab http://files.aegir.cc/BOA.sh.txt;bash BOA.sh.txt — otherwise you may run some very old BOA.sh.txt
[03:55:39]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when tdm4 is around.
[04:04:00]<omega8cc>hefring tell realityloop: ?
[04:04:00]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when realityloop is around.
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[05:05:13]<realityloop>omega8cc: is there a way to allow php to use exec on some commands after recent changes made to boa?
[05:05:13]<hefring>realityloop: 1 hour 1 min ago <omega8cc> tell realityloop: ?
[05:06:15]<omega8cc>realityloop: not sure what you mean.. example?
[05:07:03]<realityloop>omega8cc: we have a site that uses the exec function to do soome stuff that has stopped working since a recent update
[05:08:35]<realityloop>omega8cc: we're getting error '126' for the exec commands, which means that the command is found but can't be run
[05:09:29]<omega8cc>well, it depends on what is the binary the exec is trying to use, we don’t have any config whitelist for this purpose, so the whitelist is hardcoded, but feel free to suggest it on github
[05:09:42]<realityloop>omega8cc: primarily git
[05:11:22]<omega8cc>hmm, git *should* be whitelisted, so it is a bug then, if it is not
[05:11:34]<realityloop>omega8cc: where can I check?
[05:11:56]<omega8cc>It is in _BACKEND_ITEMS="wkhtmltopdf wkhtmltoimage convert compass curl sass sass-convert scss wget redis-server logger sendmail java java7 java6 rrdtool bash dash ffmpeg flvtool2 id which env nrsysmond newrelic-daemon avconv gs"
[05:12:03]<realityloop>omega8cc: also unable to run sass commands as the aegir users
[05:12:09]<omega8cc>git should be in this list
[05:12:25]<omega8cc>sass is whitelisted
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[05:12:37]<omega8cc>are you running latest boa stable?
[05:12:51]<realityloop>omega8cc: yes.. but Barracuda only, not octopus
[05:13:11]<omega8cc>it is barracuda specific only anyway
[05:13:32]<omega8cc>OK, so I think we need to fix the bug and make it configurable
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[05:13:55]<omega8cc>could you open a request on github?
[05:13:58]<realityloop>omega8cc: I'mm checking the _BACKEND_ITEMS setting on server..
[05:14:34]<omega8cc>it is variable hardcoded in the script, not configurable yet
[05:15:12]<realityloop>omega8cc: ah
[05:16:45]<realityloop>omega8cc: https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/issues/314
[05:17:06]<omega8cc>awesome! thanks
[05:17:37]<realityloop>omega8cc: in the short term what should I do to make it possible for the webserver user to run the commands I need?
[05:18:27]<omega8cc>chgrp root /path/to/cmd then chmod 755 /path/to/cmd
[05:19:01]<realityloop>omega8cc: thanks
[05:19:07]<realityloop>n
[05:19:16]<omega8cc>np, thanks for the heads up!
[05:22:29]<ergonlogic>realityloop: hi, I got remote_import working on aegir3
[05:22:29]<hefring>ergonlogic: 10 hours 47 min ago <helmo> tell ergonlogic: please note https://drupal.org/node/2285739
[05:22:39]<realityloop>omega8cc: this is the output I get when trying to run the sass command..
[05:22:43]<realityloop>aegir@h02:~$ sass
[05:22:43]<realityloop>-bash: sass: command not found
[05:22:53]<realityloop>ergonlogic: awesome
[05:22:58]<ergonlogic>and while the whole thing is a bit tricky, it should make a good base for a remote_export
[05:23:13]<ergonlogic>or remote_deploy, or whatever
[05:23:44]<realityloop>ergonlogic: I wanted to try and catch you before the end of Austin to hack on some stuff.. but my duties as a mentor stopped that from happening
[05:24:05]<ergonlogic>helmo: thanks for the head's up on aegir_up
[05:24:09]<realityloop>ergonlogic: are you likely to make it to Amsterdam?
[05:24:22]<ergonlogic>realityloop: I'm trying to
[05:24:36]<ergonlogic>cweagans and I submitted a bunch of sessions
[05:24:39]<realityloop>ergonlogic: cool.. well hope you do make it
[05:24:50]<ergonlogic>you're planning on attending?
[05:25:09]<realityloop>ergonlogic: yes, I'll be a lead mentor again..
[05:25:34]<ergonlogic>nice!
[05:25:52]<realityloop>omega8cc: does this look right? -rwxr-xr-x 109 root root 4.0M Feb 15 2012 git*
[05:26:02]<omega8cc>realityloop: hmm… you should have /usr/local/bin/sass so it should be in a PATH, check your env (however BOA doesn’t expect aegir uer to be used, so thet could be a separate problem)
[05:26:13]<omega8cc>yes, correct
[05:26:29]<realityloop>omega8cc: sass isn't at that path
[05:26:51]<omega8cc>no? it should be, I mean, there should be a symlink
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[05:27:10]<omega8cc>like: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 May 12 05:45 /usr/local/bin/sass -> /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.1.2@global/bin/sass*
[05:27:23]<realityloop>omega8cc: there isn't.. I only added the CSS directive as of last update run
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[05:28:22]<realityloop>omega8cc: http://privatepaste.com/e4b0120f16
[05:29:23]<realityloop>I added it like such in .barracuda.cnf before update.. _XTRAS_LIST="CSF CSS"
[05:29:55]<omega8cc>is Ruby etc installed?
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[05:30:54]<realityloop>omega8cc: dorsn't look like it
[05:31:08]<realityloop>I can't run ruby as root
[05:31:24]<realityloop>I thought the script would have managed that?
[05:32:10]<omega8cc>yes, if it was in _XTRAS_LIST before the upgrade, it should be installed, I would suggest barracuda up-head system (we use head in production for a few weeks already)
[05:32:23]<realityloop>omega8cc: trying now
[05:33:22]<omega8cc>you should see “INFO: Running Compass Tools install/upgrade” at the very bottom of the upgrade procedure
[05:33:27]<realityloop>omega8cc: will this unset the permissions change on git?
[05:33:47]<omega8cc>yes, I didn’t commit any fix yet
[05:34:51]<realityloop>omega8cc: is there any single location to find all of the configuration directives that are available?
[05:35:13]<omega8cc>yes
[05:35:34]<omega8cc>https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/blob/master/docs/cnf/barracuda.cnf
[05:35:50]<realityloop>omega8cc: awesome.. thanks
[05:36:59]<realityloop>omega8cc: and we have one client that seems to always get blocked from their site by csf.. at their office and when they run training events at various locations.. any suggestions on how to mitigate without disabling csf alltogether?
[05:38:25]<omega8cc>either whitelist their IP, at least for port 80 access, or if possible, give them client level ssh account, so they could whitelist any IP on the fly
[05:38:50]<omega8cc>also
[05:39:12]<realityloop>omega8cc: they're not really technical enough for that
[05:39:19]<omega8cc>I think we could add configurable whitelist, like we did for chive, but it will not work for random IPs
[05:39:29]<omega8cc>so
[05:39:47]<omega8cc>either whitelist their known IPs or
[05:39:49]<realityloop>omega8cc: I've added their main IP's to the whitelist.. but yes.. that doesn't really work for random ones they encounter
[05:40:18]<omega8cc>or disable Nginx monitor with sky high value of _NGINX_DOS_LIMIT
[05:41:02]<realityloop>omega8cc: I think it may be the nginx one actually.. what would be a sky high value?
[05:41:17]<omega8cc>but then the system will be open for DoS attacks
[05:41:22]<omega8cc>500 or even 900
[05:41:31]<omega8cc>it checks last 300 lines
[05:41:36]<realityloop>omega8cc: ok, I'll give that a try.. thanks
[05:41:42]<omega8cc>np
[05:43:18]<omega8cc>note that changing _NGINX_DOS_LIMIT will take effect only after the upgrade, otherwise you would need to edit the monitor directly
[05:44:11]<omega8cc>if fact. we could use it also on the fly
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[05:54:15]<hefring>cweagans: 22 hours 35 min ago <ergonlogic> tell cweagans I'd appreciate your feddback/testing of https://drupal.org/node/2040445
[05:57:59]<realityloop>omega8cc: ruby still not found when trying to run as rood after upgrade
[05:58:25]<omega8cc>realityloop: _BACKEND_ITEMS is now configurable via _BACKEND_ITEMS_LIST: https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/issues/314
[05:58:43]<omega8cc>have you seen that INFO: Running Compass Tools line?
[05:59:18]<realityloop>when running the command you suggested the output is silenced.. just checking the email log
[05:59:43]<omega8cc>realityloop: what is the OS you are using?
[06:00:13]<realityloop>omega8cc: debian
[06:00:17]<realityloop>wheezy
[06:00:19]<omega8cc>we have exluded lenny and lucid, because it was not possible to install dependencies
[06:00:26]<omega8cc>that should work
[06:00:37]<omega8cc>upgrade to head?
[06:01:48]<omega8cc>try rm -f /var/xdrago/log/compass* and rm -f /var/xdrago/log/gem* and run barracuda up-head again
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[06:16:50]<realityloop>omega8cc: re-running now
[06:18:26]<realityloop>omega8cc: when will the script transition to using 2.x branch of aegir (if it hasn't already) ?
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[06:20:04]<omega8cc>it is 2.x branch for years, but is stuck in pre-Views witth drush4, it was explained in the 2.2.0 release notes
[06:20:20]<realityloop>omega8cc: yep.. thats what I mean..
[06:20:44]<realityloop>omega8cc: is there any reason it hasn't moved to cersion with views?
[06:20:48]<realityloop>version
[06:21:11]<omega8cc>read: https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/blob/master/CHANGELOG.txt#L426
[06:22:54]<realityloop>omega8cc: I've read that previously.. but it doesn't say why the views version isn't used yet.. is it just a case of time for testing it before it's released?
[06:23:53]<omega8cc>it will break compatibility with still supported Drupal 5 and php 5.2 in 2.2.x, it is even in FAQ on our website
[06:24:12]<realityloop>omega8cc: ah.. we don't have any drupal5 sites anymore
[06:24:24]<realityloop>but I can see how that may not be the case for you
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[06:24:55]<omega8cc>that is why we have introduced legacy option in 2.2.0, in preparation for this upgrade
[06:25:15]<realityloop>omega8cc: yep, makes sense
[06:26:13]<omega8cc>in hosting you have to listen to what customers need, and many BOA users also requested the ability to use legacy versions supported, so it will be still possible
[06:28:13]<omega8cc>I think we host 1 or 2 D5 sites now, so we will open 2.3.x this month, with latest Aegir 2.x
[06:29:05]<omega8cc>announcing EOL helped for sure
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[06:41:12]<tdm4>hey omega8cc :) Got a question
[06:41:12]<hefring>tdm4: 2 hours 47 min ago <omega8cc> tell tdm4: you should run full, not just system upgrade, it is also a bad idea to skip so many releases: https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/blob/master/docs/UPGRADE.txt#L3
[06:41:12]<hefring>tdm4: 2 hours 45 min ago <omega8cc> tell tdm4: also, rm -f /root/BOA.sh.txt and then run cd;wget -q -U iCab http://files.aegir.cc/BOA.sh.txt;bash BOA.sh.txt — otherwise you may run some very old BOA.sh.txt
[06:41:17]<tdm4>can anyone help me upgrade BOA 2.0.9 -> 2.2.5? I get this very unhelpful message when I try: http://pastebin.com/Sy4XeudP
[06:41:39]<tdm4>I did rm the file and run cd;wget -q etc
[06:42:18]<tdm4>hefring: is it safe to run a full install over top an existing aegir/octopus installation? It won't overwrite what I have will it?
[06:42:45]<omega8cc>tdm4: have you read the how-to I have linked? you should run complete upgrade, not just system
[06:43:20]<omega8cc>there is no reason and it will not run install anyway, it will switch to upgrade mode automatically
[06:43:32]<omega8cc>unless you wish to force php re-install etc
[06:43:49]<omega8cc>then read about extra options in https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/blob/master/docs/cnf/barracuda.cnf
[06:44:35]<omega8cc>btw, hefring is a bot
[06:44:47]<omega8cc>hefring: botsnack
[06:44:47]<hefring>*burp*
[06:44:47]<tdm4>'barracuda up-stable' <- that is the full upgrade?
[06:45:14]<omega8cc>yes, the upgrade also octopus instances
[06:45:17]<omega8cc>then
[06:45:34]<omega8cc>https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/blob/master/docs/UPGRADE.txt#L3
[06:45:44]<tdm4>when I issue 'barracuda up-stable' I get: Please update installers on your system using BOA Meta Installer and try again.
[06:45:49]<tdm4>which I already have done
[06:46:16]<omega8cc>interesting, I have never seen that
[06:46:25]<tdm4>there a log file I can show you?
[06:47:04]<omega8cc>what you see at the bottom of cat /opt/local/bin/barracuda ?
[06:47:09]<tdm4>hmm so /usr/local/bin/barracuda always fails the date test?
[06:47:20]<tdm4>### 130718 ###
[06:47:42]<tdm4>ah that's from last year
[06:47:49]<tdm4>the meta installer doesn't update it?
[06:48:14]<omega8cc>hmm, I guess we don’t delete these old installers aggersively enough for so old systems
[06:48:28]<tdm4>-rwx------ 1 root root 11K Jul 18 2013 barracuda*
[06:48:29]<omega8cc>we have moved them to /opt
[06:48:33]<tdm4>ahh
[06:48:44]<tdm4>this box is on BOA 2.0.9
[06:49:47]<omega8cc>anyway, it is a bug
[06:49:52]<realityloop>omega8cc: ok.. even upfer updating and seeing the "Do you want to upgrade Compass Tools? [Y/n] y" part.. the tools don't appear to be in /usr/local/bin
[06:49:53]<omega8cc>run: rm -f /usr/local/bin/{barracuda*,boa*,octopus*}
[06:50:19]<omega8cc>the again bash BOA.sh.txt
[06:50:22]<tdm4>cheers will try that
[06:50:57]<omega8cc>realityloop: hmm, there should be symlinks created
[06:51:15]<realityloop>where should the files actually be? usr/bin?
[06:51:18]<omega8cc>so, submit a bug, I guess
[06:51:35]<omega8cc>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 May 12 05:45 /usr/local/bin/sass -> /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.1.2@global/bin/sass*
[06:52:10]<omega8cc>it is weird because I’m sure it works for us on wheezy
[06:52:24]<tdm4>this box is Ubuntu precise
[06:52:27]<realityloop>omega8cc: http://privatepaste.com/98ee74c83f
[06:52:39]<tdm4>however the other box I set up was Debian wheezy (7)
[06:54:37]<realityloop>brb reboot
[06:55:16]<omega8cc>realityloop: pls check the verbose log in /var/backups for some hints on why it is not installed
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[06:56:00]<tdm4>anyway cheers for the suggestions, omega8cc ... will try them when I can get some scheduled downtime for the box
[06:56:09]<omega8cc>tdm4: the OS stuff was not related to your issue
[06:56:13]<tdm4>will probably take a snapshot of the EC2 instance first :D
[06:56:31]<tdm4>omega8cc: yeah I realised that.. sorry
[06:56:37]<omega8cc>tdm4: anyway, open a bug report on github
[06:56:46]<tdm4>will do :)
[06:56:55]<omega8cc>so I could attribute it properly
[06:56:58]<omega8cc>thanks
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[07:05:14]<tdm4>omega8cc: hope this is enough info: https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/issues/315
[07:06:15]<omega8cc>perfect, thanks!
[07:06:20]<tdm4>:)
[07:06:33]<tdm4>I think rm -f /opt/local/bin/.fix.bins.txt first might sort it
[07:06:38]<tdm4>since it would clean up the other binaries
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[07:06:48]<tdm4>randpass, syncpass, etc
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[07:07:00]<omega8cc>yep
[07:09:57]<tdm4>hmm.. interesting.. I removed /opt/local/bin/.fix.bins.txt and re-ran bash BOA.sh.txt and it rm -f'd the binaries from /usr/local and touched /opt/local/bin/.fix.bins.txt .. which is fine.. but no /opt/local/bin in $PATH now
[07:10:37]<tdm4>so I'd have to export PATH=/opt/local/bin:$PATH first, then proceed with 'barracuda up-stable' etc.
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[07:11:45]<tdm4>ok updated my initial comment in #315
[07:12:24]<omega8cc>see: https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/issues/303
[07:12:43]<tdm4>what is strange is BOA.sh.txt does have export PATH... with that /opt/local/bin but the export only lives as long as the BOA.sh.txt is being run by bash :)
[07:13:11]<omega8cc>re-login after running BOA, but we should display it on screen, perhaps
[07:13:27]<omega8cc>you need to re-login to get updated PATH
[07:13:49]<omega8cc>yeah
[07:13:58]<tdm4>only if you go through the barracuda upgrade, yeah
[07:14:21]<tdm4>it's OK I'll just pop it in my PATH when I do the upgrade
[07:14:21]<omega8cc>as I said: https://github.com/omega8cc/boa/issues/303#issuecomment-40867329
[07:15:05]<omega8cc>anyway, we should so something about it
[07:15:08]<omega8cc>do
[07:15:13]<tdm4>aye
[07:16:07]<tdm4>ahh
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[07:16:42]<tdm4>line 75 of BOA.sh.txt .. it's an in-place sed.. but what if export PATH= .. line doesn't exist yet? :D
[07:17:17]<tdm4>the PATH isn't set at all in a BOA-2.0.9 default .bashrc
[07:17:19]<tdm4>(for root)
[07:17:30]<tdm4>so the sed will do nothing since it won't find the export PATH line
[07:19:46]<tdm4>anyway, I think those are the only 2 issues I can find :)
[07:20:00]<tdm4>just popped it in the second comment since it's related to #313
[07:20:05]<tdm4>sorry 315
[07:20:38]<omega8cc>Interesting, I guess we didn’t test upgrades from so old installs, so we didn’ notice there was no export PATH=
[07:23:39]<tdm4>http://i.imgur.com/G3L3gtr.gif
[07:24:01]<tdm4>drupal's revisioning is out of control :D
[07:24:23]<tdm4>this one site.. the web root is 16 GB.. 15 GB of that is duplicated images
[07:24:31]<tdm4>well, 100s of the same image file
[07:24:35]<tdm4>it's crazy!
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[07:31:24]<omega8cc>lol
[07:32:51]<tdm4>not sure if it's drupal core code or some whacked out module
[07:35:48]<tdm4>anyway thanks again omega8cc .. take care :)
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[08:10:06]<realityloop>omega8cc: where was the log file you told me to check for why sass hasn't installed?
[08:16:39]<omega8cc>in /var/backups
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[08:47:33]<realityloop>omega8cc: as far as I can tell this is only part of logfile that might be relevant? http://privatepaste.com/70f3bf93ed
[08:50:21]<omega8cc>it looks normal, the only diff thing is that it seems to be 32-bit system, which we no longer test these days
[08:50:53]<realityloop>omega8cc: /usr/local/rvm/ contains files
[08:53:55]<omega8cc>no idea how to help you further if there are no obvious errors in the verbose log, it should be installed, unless you have something custom with your root environment, like modified PATH or something like that
[08:54:24]<realityloop>omega8cc: unlikely, this box was set up using your scripts.. and everything since then also done using the script
[08:54:26]<omega8cc>but again, we don’t check how things work for master instance aegir user
[08:54:39]<realityloop>omega8cc: will just live with it for now
[08:54:40]<omega8cc>we check everything assuming octopus users
[08:55:20]<omega8cc>I will check how it works elsewhere, one sec
[08:56:38]<omega8cc>works just fine: https://gist.github.com/omega8cc/4997953edb8be2f4b251
[08:57:18]<realityloop>omega8cc: yep.. not here.. weird..
[08:57:37]<realityloop>that returns nothing with my aegir user
[08:57:37]<omega8cc>and the same for root, it just works
[08:57:57]<realityloop>nothing for the root user here either
[08:58:27]<realityloop>ergonlogic: has there been any progress made on drush7 support?
[08:58:32]<realityloop>ergonlogic: for 3.x
[08:58:40]<omega8cc>I guess you need to investigate verbose logs further, or even monitor them on upgrade etc
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