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[11:40:25]<realityloop>ergonlogic: ping
[11:45:22]<realityloop>ergonlogic: nevermind. :)
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[02:54:02]* ergonlogic just posted the 2nd issue of the Aegir Dispatch: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/aegir-dispatch-issue-2
[02:54:28]<ergonlogic>and I'd like to thank my nephew Dale for helping with proof-reading :)
[03:01:10]<hefring>community => Aegir Dispatch (Issue #2) => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/aegir-dispatch-issue-2
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[03:46:24]<cosmicdreams1>Oh hi everybody
[03:46:30]<cosmicdreams1>are there people in here working?
[03:47:08]<cosmicdreams1>jonpugh_: asked me to stop by here and chat about Aegir
[03:47:44]<cosmicdreams1>as I'm having issues getting it to install distributions properly (weird file permission issues)
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[04:57:38]<cosmicdreams1>ok
[04:57:41]<cosmicdreams1>I think I found the problem
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[05:01:02]<cosmicdreams1>I'm using debian
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[05:01:38]<cosmicdreams1>and I think that provision_posix_groupname is returnning "httpd" instead of "www-data" for the group name of the web service.
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[05:02:14]<cosmicdreams1>ergonlogic: I think read that Debian is the primary targetted OS for aegir
[05:02:24]<cosmicdreams1>so I'm confused as to why this would be a problem
[05:03:34]<cosmicdreams1>I'm guessing that if I were to re-order the list of group names that _provision_default_web_group checks to prioritze www-data then I could fix it for me but that feels like a hack
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[05:05:06]<cosmicdreams1>Is this not where I should go to chat about aegir?
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[05:33:02]<ergonlogic>cosmicdreams1: debian (and derivatives, such as ubuntu) are the most commonly used, and thus the best supported
[05:33:18]<ergonlogic>in that we maintain .debs as part of our official release cycle
[05:33:56]<ergonlogic>but many users run Aegir on redhat derivatives, and there have even been reports of successful installs on solaris and freebsd
[05:34:24]<cosmicdreams1>cool
[05:34:37]<cosmicdreams1>yea I first tried getting aegir running on Ubuntu but ran into all kinds of problems
[05:34:46]<cosmicdreams1>I've tried getting things running like 8 different ways
[05:35:01]<cosmicdreams1>the only one that's working for me is apt-get aegir2
[05:35:13]<cosmicdreams1>(apt-get install aegir2)
[05:36:22]<cosmicdreams1>ergonlogic: so it sounds like folks have had a lot of success getting aegir2 running on debian
[05:36:27]<cosmicdreams1>ergonlogic: which version?
[05:37:06]<ergonlogic>stable (wheezy) is the best supported
[05:37:16]<cosmicdreams1>ergonlogic: that's what I'm using
[05:37:37]<ergonlogic>apache made non-backward-compatible changes in their 2.4 release, which has made things more difficult on newer OSs recently
[05:37:54]<cosmicdreams1>ergonlogic: I'm trying to see if my hack fixes the problem but it seems odd that aegir thinks that a "httpd" user group exists when it doesn't
[05:38:18]<cosmicdreams1>Oh ok
[05:38:29]<cosmicdreams1>are you saying that I should try to use an older version of apache?
[05:38:47]<cosmicdreams1>because it's odd that apt-get install aegir2 would install the wrong version of apache
[05:38:57]<ergonlogic>hmm, normally aegir assumes that the apache user is 'www-data'...
[05:39:11]<cosmicdreams1>ergonlogic: so here's what I'm looking at:
[05:39:16]<ergonlogic>but apt will install whatever the current release is specifying
[05:39:20]<ergonlogic>barring pinning, etc.
[05:39:25]<cosmicdreams1>_provision_default_web_group() in provision.drush.inc
[05:39:34]<cosmicdreams1>line 349
[05:39:53]<cosmicdreams1>lists a set of common groups to check and stop when it finds the first oen
[05:39:55]<cosmicdreams1>one
[05:40:08]<ergonlogic>right
[05:40:11]<cosmicdreams1>It currently stops at httpd before even trying www-data
[05:40:34]<cosmicdreams1>and then when it tries to change group ownership to www-data it can't because httpd doesn't exist
[05:40:44]<cosmicdreams1>when breaks my drupal installs
[05:40:52]<ergonlogic>but why is it finding the httpd group, then?
[05:41:06]<cosmicdreams1>and it initially broke aegir itself when it installed hostmaster
[05:41:10]<cosmicdreams1>No idea
[05:41:23]<ergonlogic>it should chown to httpd, if that's the group it finds
[05:41:30]<cosmicdreams1>I could try to reseach what provision_posix_groupname($group) does I suppose
[05:41:36]<ergonlogic>is there a bug report for this yet?
[05:41:44]<cosmicdreams1>I suppose I should create one
[05:41:50]<ergonlogic>cosmicdreams1: please do
[05:41:59]<cosmicdreams1>I found it weird how this would break so foundamentally only for me
[05:42:06]<cosmicdreams1>thought the bug was with me
[05:42:15]<ergonlogic>we'd need steps to replicate
[05:42:32]<cosmicdreams1>ok
[05:42:38]<ergonlogic>but we can certainly change the order of the web group list easily enough
[05:42:45]<ergonlogic>afaict
[05:43:01]<cosmicdreams1>community.aegirproject.org/issues still the best place to file issues?
[05:43:08]<ergonlogic>you're sure there's no httpd group?
[05:43:24]<ergonlogic>that'll go to the combined queue
[05:43:30]<cosmicdreams1>I've tried to verify but let me check to see if I was root when I did
[05:43:32]<ergonlogic>in this case, file it against provision
[05:43:38]<ergonlogic>please :)
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[05:46:28]<cosmicdreams1>here's what I get when I'm ssh'ed into my vagrant vm as root:
[05:46:30]<cosmicdreams1>groups
[05:46:30]<cosmicdreams1>vagrant cdrom sudo audio www-data video www-user
[05:46:39]<ergonlogic>generally, the 'hostmaster' project is the catchall, from whence we'll triage and move to a more appropriate project, if necessary. But in this case, it's either that function that is mis-behaving, or the debian package is faulty. Both of those are in provision.
[05:47:37]<ergonlogic>doesn't 'groups' tell you the groups that a user belongs to?
[05:47:58]<cosmicdreams1>hmmm.....
[05:48:00]<joestewart>cosmicdreams1: what about "grep -i 'httpd' /etc/groups"
[05:48:03]<ergonlogic>try: cat /etc/group
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[05:48:06]<ergonlogic>sure
[05:48:09]<cosmicdreams1>right let me try that
[05:48:19]<joestewart>group
[05:48:29]<cosmicdreams1>either way i need www-data first
[05:49:00]<cosmicdreams1>yep
[05:49:02]<cosmicdreams1>it's there
[05:49:12]<cosmicdreams1>B$grep -i 'httpd' /etc/group
[05:49:12]<cosmicdreams1>24:www-data:x:33:nginx,apache,httpd,www-data,vagrant,aegir
[05:49:12]<cosmicdreams1>52:httpd:x:1004:
[05:49:25]<cosmicdreams1>thanks for that joestewart
[05:49:28]<cosmicdreams1>joestewart++
[05:49:36]<cosmicdreams1>what no bot?
[05:49:41]<ergonlogic>ok, there you go
[05:49:48]<cosmicdreams1>so it's not buggy
[05:49:52]<ergonlogic>hefring: joestewart++
[05:50:08]<ergonlogic>meh, hefring's being silent...
[05:50:27]<ergonlogic>cosmicdreams1: nope, it looks like Aegir's acting appropriately
[05:50:33]<ergonlogic>at least, within reason
[05:50:41]<cosmicdreams1>OH ok, I get it
[05:50:48]<cosmicdreams1>aegir needs to be a member of the httpd group
[05:51:00]<cosmicdreams1>I've seen documentation about that kind of thing
[05:51:04]<ergonlogic>still, we should consider re-ordering the list of groups it checks
[05:51:05]<cosmicdreams1>somewhere....
[05:51:13]<joestewart>debian doesn't usuallay have that group.
[05:51:52]<cosmicdreams1>My point is, I expected "sudo apt-get install aegir2" to handle everything for me (especially when using the recommended OS choice)
[05:52:09]<cosmicdreams1>filing that issue
[05:53:58]<cosmicdreams1>is drupal.org down for anyone else?
[05:54:01]<cosmicdreams1>or is it just me
[05:54:22]<ergonlogic>for me too
[05:56:07]<cosmicdreams1>they might be switching to sematic versioning
[05:56:27]<cosmicdreams1>they have a process ready to go to switch the issues queues to the new versioning process
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[06:45:28]<cosmicdreams1>https://www.drupal.org/node/2296089
[06:45:29]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2296089 => sudo apt-get install aegir doesn't completely install Aegir2 for Debian 7 (wheezy) [#2296089] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[06:53:21]<cosmicdreams1>ergonlogic: I've made the code change to proritize www-data over httpd groups but it's still trying to use httpd
[06:53:33]<cosmicdreams1>I don't have to restart my web server for this change doe I?
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