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| [10:46:17] | <p_stampy> | Are you able to change the name of a platform once sites are using it, or does it screw things up? |
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| [11:30:16] | <berniecram> | p_stampy: can't you just make a new platform and migrate the sites to the new one? |
| [11:31:00] | <p_stampy> | Yeh I can :) I just wasn't sure if renaming was an option. |
| [11:31:20] | <p_stampy> | Well, it looks like an option, just not sure if it's a smart option ;) |
| [11:31:22] | <p_stampy> | thanks berniecram |
| [11:32:09] | <berniecram> | p_stampy: I haven't tried renaming after the fact |
| [11:35:12] | <p_stampy> | I think I tried yesterday and I didnt think it worked, but looked like aegir had more problems that werent' related to it at all. All good, I'll just make a new one - I have to do the date module upgrade anyway. |
| [11:44:52] | <berniecram> | p_stampy I tend to run all the contrib modules for each site in 'platform/sites/sitename/modules' rather than 'platform/sites/all/modules' so that if you want to move a site to a platform on it's own or even put it into something outside aegir it is way easier, new platforms just need whatever version of drupal you want |
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| [12:11:27] | <p_stampy> | ah yeh |
| [12:14:03] | <mig5> | 11:44 < berniecram> p_stampy I tend to run all the contrib modules for each site in 'platform/sites/sitename/modules' rather than 'platform/sites/all/modules' so that if you want to move a site to a platform on it's own or even put it into something outside aegir it is way easier, new platforms just need whatever version of drupal you want |
| [12:14:14] | <mig5> | the problem with this approach is you can never 'upgrade' those modules via the Migrate task |
| [12:14:31] | <p_stampy> | yeh |
| [12:14:43] | <mig5> | since the site dir carries across to the new platform, and since modules in the sites/$site/modules dir take precedence, you are stuck with them / have to do manual upgrades |
| [12:14:55] | <mig5> | sites/all or via profiles/$profile/modules is better |
| [12:15:03] | <p_stampy> | we put all modules in the sites/all/modules |
| [12:16:35] | <berniecram> | mig5: I don't have enough sites to worry about that though, 'drush up whatever' is fine for my number of sites |
| [12:17:00] | <mig5> | fair enough, so long as if the drush updatedb doesn't break your database.. as you'd have to manually roll back |
| [12:17:12] | <mig5> | whereas Migrate task would handle that for you automatically and move the site back to the previous platform |
| [12:17:28] | <mig5> | so you take on the risk yourself otherwise, is all :) |
| [12:17:33] | <mig5> | so long as you know that, no worries |
| [12:17:56] | <berniecram> | mig5: food for thought, thanks for the input. Much appreciated |
| [12:17:56] | <p_stampy> | aegir is slowly growing on me |
| [12:18:06] | <p_stampy> | now that i can do things without shit breaking |
| [12:18:07] | <mig5> | p_stampy: there's creams for that i think |
| [12:18:09] | <mig5> | :) |
| [12:18:13] | <p_stampy> | lol |
| [12:18:31] | <mig5> | i only just recently installed Aegir 2 and the 'hosting extras' contrib module |
| [12:18:35] | <mig5> | some neat stuff in there e.g 'Sync' |
| [12:18:56] | <p_stampy> | ah |
| [12:19:00] | <mig5> | to sync data/files from one site to another... eg prod->stage. sometimes it's not feasible to keep cloning prod to a new stage site |
| [12:19:06] | <p_stampy> | ours is hosted by someone so we just "use" it rather than manage it |
| [12:19:07] | <mig5> | even though that can sometimes be good too |
| [12:19:09] | <mig5> | ah |
| [12:19:29] | <mig5> | is this another canberra IT team running Aegir? I wonder if I set that one up :) |
| [12:19:45] | <p_stampy> | unless you work for slicedtech.. no |
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| [12:19:56] | <mig5> | hehe, no, but i did work with them on that setup i think :) |
| [12:20:10] | <p_stampy> | really? |
| [12:20:14] | <mig5> | puppetised the slicedtech servers, got aegir etc going on them. might be a different department though |
| [12:20:23] | <p_stampy> | not sure |
| [12:20:24] | <mig5> | and trained up the in-house sysadmin to manage it all later |
| [12:20:30] | <p_stampy> | cody? |
| [12:20:34] | <mig5> | Ben |
| [12:20:37] | <p_stampy> | bahaha |
| [12:20:39] | <mig5> | maybe a different area :) |
| [12:20:46] | <p_stampy> | Bens my other half |
| [12:20:53] | <mig5> | o rly |
| [12:20:56] | <p_stampy> | yeh |
| [12:20:59] | * p_stampy shifty eyes |
| [12:21:04] | <mig5> | :) |
| [12:21:31] | <p_stampy> | we already had an aegir thing going, but a new one built about......3 months ago? |
| [12:22:06] | <mig5> | ah, my involvement was probably about 2 years back now, or thereabouts.. |
| [12:22:23] | <mig5> | probably quite different now |
| [12:22:32] | <p_stampy> | hey? |
| [12:22:32] | <hefring> | hola |
| [12:22:42] | <p_stampy> | Bens been there almost a year |
| [12:22:50] | <mig5> | maybe we are talking about different people :) |
| [12:22:57] | <mig5> | nm |
| [12:23:20] | <p_stampy> | lol |
| [12:23:33] | <p_stampy> | might have been tim |
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| [12:23:53] | <p_stampy> | he looked after our older aegir stuff |
| [12:24:07] | <mig5> | nah, i think just different area of federal gov |
| [12:24:08] | <mig5> | all good |
| [12:24:24] | <p_stampy> | LOL |
| [12:24:25] | <p_stampy> | ok |
| [12:24:26] | <mig5> | good to hear aegir growing in use around there though |
| [12:24:38] | <p_stampy> | yeh, im not sure who else uses it |
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| [04:34:27] | <lameei> | Hi |
| [04:34:27] | <hefring> | hi |
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| [04:35:34] | <lameei> | I have installed aegir on debian VPS but the server does not have FQDN so the generated link not working. Now I have corrected the FQDN problem but how can I get access to aegir? |
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| [04:48:50] | <gboudrias> | lameei: The server does not have FQDN? |
| [04:49:24] | <lameei> | gboudrias: not at the time of installation. but i think it has now. |
| [04:49:52] | <lameei> | gboudrias: I’m tring to delete it and re install aegir |
| [04:51:07] | <gboudrias> | lameei: Try drush @hostmaster hostmaster-uninstall I think |
| [04:51:13] | <gboudrias> | lameei: http://community.aegirproject.org/uninstalling |
| [04:52:11] | <lameei> | gboudrias: didnt work. it says: Command hostmaster-uninstall needs a higher bootstrap level to run - [error] |
| [04:52:11] | <lameei> | you will need to invoke drush from a more functional Drupal |
| [04:52:12] | <lameei> | environment to run this command. |
| [04:52:13] | <lameei> | The drush command 'hostmaster-uninstall' could not be executed. [error] |
| [04:52:14] | <lameei> | A Drupal installation directory could not be found |
| [04:52:22] | <lameei> | Just deleted it manually |
| [04:52:46] | <gboudrias> | lameei: Well, you might want to delete the database as well in that case |
| [04:52:48] | <lameei> | For FQDN I just pointed one of my domains to the new server |
| [04:52:56] | <gboudrias> | sounds good |
| [04:53:10] | <lameei> | is this the solution for FQDN? |
| [04:53:10] | <gboudrias> | lameei: If you're on Linux or Mac, you can just use our hosts file to test |
| [04:53:30] | <lameei> | gboudrias: I’m on debian |
| [04:53:57] | <gboudrias> | lameei: You can use /etc/hosts to point a domain name to an arbitrary IP |
| [04:54:06] | <lameei> | gboudrias: I perefer to have the FQDN set. |
| [04:54:48] | <gboudrias> | lameei: Well, hostmaster needs a domain name, but it doesn't have to be a "real" one |
| [04:55:00] | <gboudrias> | But it'll probably be simpler in the long term if it is |
| [04:55:07] | <lameei> | gboudrias: How can i chack to see if the FQDN is correct |
| [04:55:38] | <gboudrias> | lameei: Try to access it through your browser? Not sure what you mean |
| [04:55:50] | <gboudrias> | The FQDN is whichever domain name you chose at install time |
| [04:56:18] | <gboudrias> | To know if the domain name routes correctly to your VPS, you can just ping it |
| [04:56:36] | <gboudrias> | (with the ping command) |
| [04:56:39] | <lameei> | gboudrias: Got it, |
| [04:57:08] | <lameei> | gboudrias: gonna install it again, hope this time it works correctly |
| [04:58:01] | <gboudrias> | ok, good luck |
| [04:58:52] | <lameei> | gboudrias: It seems that the aegir is not uninstalled correctly, the aptitude install -y aegir2 command does not download anything |
| [05:01:32] | <gboudrias> | lameei: Well, did you uninstall it through apt-get or aptitude? |
| [05:01:41] | <gboudrias> | If you just deleted the folders, that won't suffice |
| [05:02:27] | <lameei> | gboudrias: no, I did what I’ve read here http://community.aegirproject.org/uninstalling |
| [05:03:18] | <gboudrias> | lameei: Well, aptitude probably thinks it's still installed. Do "aptitude show aegir2" |
| [05:03:39] | <gboudrias> | You might have to run apt-get remove aegir2 |
| [05:03:53] | <gboudrias> | Just so it knows it's been uninstalled, before it tries to install it again |
| [05:04:18] | <lameei> | gboudrias: Yep, the status is installed |
| [05:04:28] | <gboudrias> | There you go |
| [05:05:05] | <lameei> | gboudrias: after runnig the remove command the status is not installed |
| [05:05:31] | <lameei> | gboudrias: It is installing now :) |
| [05:05:41] | <gboudrias> | Good! |
| [05:07:10] | <lameei> | gb |
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| [05:07:28] | <lameei> | gboudrias: this is what i got: |
| [05:07:38] | <lameei> | The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| [05:07:39] | <lameei> | aegir2 |
| [05:07:40] | <lameei> | 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded. |
| [05:07:42] | <lameei> | Need to get 0 B/7,648 B of archives. After unpacking 32.8 kB will be used. |
| [05:07:43] | <lameei> | sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory |
| [05:07:45] | <lameei> | sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory |
| [05:07:46] | <lameei> | sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory |
| [05:07:48] | <lameei> | sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory |
| [05:07:49] | <lameei> | Selecting previously unselected package aegir2. |
| [05:07:50] | <lameei> | (Reading database ... 28151 files and directories currently installed.) |
| [05:07:51] | <lameei> | Unpacking aegir2 (from .../archives/aegir2_2.1_all.deb) ... |
| [05:07:52] | <lameei> | Setting up aegir2 (2.1) ... |
| [05:07:57] | <lameei> | gboudrias: and nothing else. |
| [05:09:45] | <gboudrias> | lameei: There might be more removing needed. I think aegir2 package depends on the packages that actually do the installing. |
| [05:10:27] | <lameei> | gboudrias: I will start from scratch and will do install the |
| [05:10:31] | <lameei> | OS |
| [05:11:19] | <lameei> | gboudrias: It sounds dump but it is faster than trobleshooting :) |
| [05:16:23] | <gboudrias> | lameei: Sure is! |
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