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| [11:51:18] | <Deciphered> | Anyone know if there's a valid reason that a Client isn't a User entity? |
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| [12:24:03] | <gboudrias> | Deciphered: Clients are used to group users |
| [12:24:09] | <gboudrias> | For access |
| [12:24:24] | <Deciphered> | Yeah, came to that understanding shortly after I asked. Multiple users can make a client. |
| [12:24:58] | <gboudrias> | People are looking at using Organic Groups for Aegir3, but it might be pushed back to Aegir4 I don't remember |
| [12:25:04] | <Deciphered> | Just trying to refactor and standardise a lot of the architecture now that it's D7. |
| [12:25:46] | <gboudrias> | Ok, consider OG then :P |
| [12:26:00] | <Deciphered> | OG is very heavy. I would opt for that to be a contrib addition, because I personally have never had the need for the client/multi-user setup in Aegir. |
| [12:26:31] | <gboudrias> | Sounds good. Good stuff for a feature request if it doesn't already exist. |
| [12:26:35] | <Deciphered> | At the moment my focus is on turning pseduo-fields into Fields, and custom forms into Entity Forms, and any logic into Rules |
| [12:26:48] | <gboudrias> | Deciphered: Refactoring everything to entities could take ages though |
| [12:26:56] | <gboudrias> | Thus the reason why no one has done it yet |
| [12:27:03] | <Deciphered> | I don't doubt that. But the benefits are great. |
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| [12:27:33] | <gboudrias> | No doubt |
| [12:27:34] | <Deciphered> | I'm starting with the Clients, and will work my way through the other types. No one was done it, so I shall begin. |
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| [12:27:57] | <Deciphered> | https://www.drupal.org/node/2347375 <- If you want to get involved. |
| [12:28:03] | <hefring> | https://www.drupal.org/node/2347375 => META: Convert pseudo fields to real fields. [#2347375] => 2 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [12:28:26] | <gboudrias> | Deciphered: Have you looked at the issues where people have tried and failed? |
| [12:28:38] | <gboudrias> | Not to discourage you or anything |
| [12:28:46] | <Deciphered> | I don't fail :) |
| [12:29:00] | <gboudrias> | There are major challenges though, and the stable release would no doubt need to be pushed back |
| [12:29:12] | <gboudrias> | Just food for thought |
| [12:29:14] | <Deciphered> | I haven't seen any other issues though, I looked around and saw nothing, but I don't doubt they're there. |
| [12:30:02] | <Deciphered> | I don't think the stable would need to be pushed back, the stable can come out as it is (when it's ready) and my patches can be rolled in as a .1 release or similar. But if I hold back because of that then nothing may ever happen. |
| [12:30:07] | <gboudrias> | I fully support the initiative :) I'll follow the issue |
| [12:30:26] | <Deciphered> | Cheers |
| [12:30:33] | <gboudrias> | You have a point, |
| [12:30:45] | <gboudrias> | Cheers, good luck :) |
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| [16:48:46] | <kristofferw_> | gboudrias, I have a empty dev site with the option "Check for updates of disabled modules and themes" checked. |
| [16:49:08] | <kristofferw_> | That site sites at our development-machine with daily checks. |
| [16:49:41] | <gboudrias> | kristofferw_: Yeah, that's what I meant by "sentinel" :) |
| [16:49:44] | <kristofferw_> | So I just do "drush up" there and the commit those changes to git and create a new platform for every machine. |
| [16:50:00] | <gboudrias> | Nice |
| [16:50:11] | <gboudrias> | Maybe there's a use case for something more formal |
| [16:50:12] | <gboudrias> | Idk |
| [16:50:38] | <kristofferw_> | Saw now that this messages should have been to lavamind. As you know there answer. :) |
| [16:50:52] | <gboudrias> | Indeed, but good to share workflows :) |
| [16:51:08] | <kristofferw_> | bot? |
| [16:51:59] | <kristofferw_> | So no bot here. Would be great to have the "tell" functionallity. |
| [16:52:03] | <gboudrias> | there is |
| [16:52:11] | <gboudrias> | It's hefring |
| [16:52:39] | <gboudrias> | herfing tell lavamind kristofferw_ says "I have a empty dev site with the option "Check for updates of disabled modules and themes" checked." |
| [16:52:44] | <gboudrias> | hefring tell lavamind kristofferw_ says "I have a empty dev site with the option "Check for updates of disabled modules and themes" checked." |
| [16:52:45] | <hefring> | gboudrias: I'll pass that on when lavamind is around. |
| [16:52:49] | <gboudrias> | yeah there you go |
| [16:53:18] | <kristofferw_> | Thanks. Whas searching for Drupalicon. Or someoen to answer "bot?" |
| [16:53:54] | <gboudrias> | Yeah, feature request impending :P |
| [16:54:01] | <gboudrias> | Anyway, it's super late here, good night |
| [16:54:17] | <kristofferw_> | Good night. Its 07:53 here. So the day has just started |
| [16:54:23] | <gboudrias> | hah nice! Good day! :D |
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| [00:54:56] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: tell lavamind check out the --lock option for make in Drush 7.x |
| [00:54:57] | <hefring> | ergonlogic: I'll pass that on when lavamind is around. |
| [00:56:23] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: and the 8.x-3.x branch of kplatforms, especially the docs. It should be a simple script to check for updates nightly (or whatever) via cron |
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| [01:47:10] | <joestewart> | ergonlogic: This looks nice, reading closer now. http://cgit.drupalcode.org/kplatforms/tree/MAINTENANCE.md?h=8.x-3.x |
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| [01:48:02] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: I suspect it'll become the new standard for makefile management |
| [01:48:12] | <ergonlogic> | I should really write up a blog post about it |
| [01:48:21] | <ergonlogic> | but the docs are pretty complete |
| [01:50:00] | <joestewart> | To bring up something from a long time ago, any chance you have the 7.x-3.x branch still around you mentioned here? https://www.drupal.org/node/1961196 |
| [01:50:00] | <hefring> | https://www.drupal.org/node/1961196 => Add ergonlogic as a maintainer [#1961196] => 2 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [01:50:46] | <joestewart> | Been testing the aegir 3.x alpha ( very nice!) and trying to get involved again. |
| [01:57:39] | <ergonlogic> | glad to hear it! |
| [01:59:49] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: I haven't found that branch anywhere :/ |
| [01:59:56] | <ergonlogic> | I'll take a closer look this PM |
| [02:00:05] | <joestewart> | ok, thanks |
| [02:00:19] | <ergonlogic> | sorry, it was stupid not to push it somewhere |
| [02:00:25] | <ergonlogic> | or at least post a patch |
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| [04:57:22] | <lavamind> | gboudrias, hey |
| [04:57:22] | <hefring> | lavamind: 12 hours 4 min ago <gboudrias> tell lavamind kristofferw_ says "I have a empty dev site with the option "Check for updates of disabled modules and themes" checked." |
| [04:57:22] | <hefring> | lavamind: 4 hours 2 min ago <ergonlogic> tell lavamind check out the --lock option for make in Drush 7.x |
| [04:58:23] | <lavamind> | how about this : http://paste.debian.net/125608/ |
| [04:58:24] | <gboudrias> | hey |
| [04:58:24] | <hefring> | privet |
| [04:59:14] | <lavamind> | this auto picks a single site per platform and runs the update check after enabled disabled_modules checks |
| [04:59:56] | <gboudrias> | Interesting |
| [05:00:12] | <gboudrias> | Good start, but you'd still want it to run automatically, no? |
| [05:00:20] | <gboudrias> | And and send... emails? :p |
| [05:00:35] | <lavamind> | gboudrias, cron does all this for you |
| [05:00:42] | <lavamind> | plus switching to aegir user |
| [05:02:09] | <gboudrias> | I get the idea, but I'm not personally a big fan of shell scripts for this kind of thing. Seems more like a good thing to be able to configure, with a hosting module for example. |
| [05:02:40] | <gboudrias> | I mean, whatever works for you, but thinking more in terms of general use case |
| [05:03:24] | <lavamind> | well, imo aegir already knows about all modules in platforms, so I agree |
| [05:03:51] | <lavamind> | ideally that would be done in aegir itself, and you could configure update checks per-platform |
| [05:03:56] | <gboudrias> | Right, the problem I see with the sentinel thing is that it requires manual "setup" |
| [05:04:13] | <gboudrias> | And a problem with the script is that it doesn't send emails |
| [05:04:30] | <lavamind> | gboudrias, if you put that command in cron it will |
| [05:05:04] | <lavamind> | for sure this is a quick-and-dirty solution |
| [05:05:10] | <gboudrias> | I see |
| [05:06:02] | <lavamind> | if I had a couple days free I would attempt to hack this into aegir itself :p |
| [05:06:57] | <lavamind> | I suspect it wouldn't be a trivial feature to implement however |
| [05:06:59] | <gboudrias> | yeah, imo, an ideal solution would: Have sane defaults (require no config) and be easily installed with a standard workflow |
| [05:07:11] | <gboudrias> | Me too :P |
| [05:07:17] | <gboudrias> | I agree, otherwise it would be done already |
| [05:07:55] | <gboudrias> | We should really make a feature request to document our ideas |
| [05:08:10] | <gboudrias> | (Well, yours mostly :P) |
| [05:11:47] | <lavamind> | maybe it could also be included in hosting_tasks_extra |
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