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| [11:30:28] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: tell cweagans I'd actually prefer to keep it under our 'home', until we've figured it out further. As soon as we publish something like this more broadly, it'll end up in peoples' /etc/apt/sources. Then we can't change things without messing them up. Also, I think we should actually just use this to build, then mirror it under our existing repo URL, as described here: https://en.opensuse.org/ope |
| [11:30:28] | <hefring> | ergonlogic: I'll pass that on when cweagans is around. |
| [11:30:34] | <ergonlogic> | nSUSE:Build_Service_Debian_builds#Configuring_sources.list |
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| [13:39:48] | <cweagans> | ergonlogic: Yeah, that makes sense |
| [13:39:48] | <hefring> | cweagans: 2 hours 9 min ago <ergonlogic> tell cweagans I'd actually prefer to keep it under our 'home', until we've figured it out further. As soon as we publish something like this more broadly, it'll end up in peoples' /etc/apt/sources. Then we can't change things without messing them up. Also, I think we should actually just use this to build, then mirror it under our existing repo URL, as described here: https://en.opensuse.org/ope |
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| [02:00:09] | <ergonlogic> | cweagans_afk: also, you need to apply for a namespace outside your home. Which makes sense. Distros don't want all kinds of junk filling up their namespaces, nor duplication of projects due to different naming, etc. |
| [02:00:42] | * ergonlogic is curious whether anyone is using platform level git repos in Aegir (outside of devshop) |
| [02:01:05] | <ergonlogic> | if yes, please comment in https://www.drupal.org/node/2555129 |
| [02:01:06] | <hefring> | https://www.drupal.org/node/2555129 => Use case for 'git pull' on platform? [#2555129] => 5 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [02:03:45] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: remind jonpugh Would you mind describing how devshop handles 'git pull' on platforms in https://www.drupal.org/node/2555129? |
| [02:03:45] | <hefring> | https://www.drupal.org/node/2555129 => Use case for 'git pull' on platform? [#2555129] => 5 comments, 3 IRC mentions |
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| [05:33:08] | <formatC_vt> | ergonlogic> i do |
| [05:33:58] | <ergonlogic> | formatC_vt: right |
| [05:34:24] | <ergonlogic> | did you see my update with all the reasons it generally isn't a good idea |
| [05:34:27] | <ergonlogic> | ? |
| [05:34:45] | <formatC_vt> | yes, i think without git we still have this problem |
| [05:34:46] | <ergonlogic> | specifically if you have more than 1 site per platform |
| [05:34:53] | <ergonlogic> | no, we don't |
| [05:35:19] | <ergonlogic> | we create new platforms, with updated code, and migrate sites |
| [05:35:52] | <ergonlogic> | that's safe and reliable |
| [05:35:55] | <formatC_vt> | manually? |
| [05:36:08] | <ergonlogic> | with a drush makefile usually |
| [05:36:52] | <ergonlogic> | we can automate it further, as per https://www.drupal.org/node/2555393 |
| [05:36:53] | <hefring> | https://www.drupal.org/node/2555393 => Simplify updates [#2555393] => 2 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
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| [05:37:40] | <ergonlogic> | and further still after that, if we add the capability to subscribe to a makefile |
| [05:39:31] | <formatC_vt> | it is also can be implemented with git |
| [05:41:08] | <ergonlogic> | how? |
| [05:42:01] | <ergonlogic> | please post a viable workflow to that issue that addresses the problems I've described |
| [05:44:09] | <formatC_vt> | i'm talking about Simplify updates, every pull for platform can be recognized as upgrade |
| [05:58:03] | <formatC_vt> | i'm newbie with drush and may be doesn't see a full picture, but for me it's doesn't matter which way you can get new core files: manually with drush makefile whatever or with git, it is just a set of files and folders |
| [06:02:28] | <formatC_vt> | and git it is a good storage for files |
| [06:17:10] | <ergonlogic> | formatC_vt: getting the files isn't really the problem. handling the sites' data responsibly is |
| [06:24:14] | <formatC_vt> | yes, and getting new core files with drush/git/whatever can be a part of upgrade task |
| [06:28:47] | <ergonlogic> | only if you enforce a single site per platform |
| [06:29:08] | <ergonlogic> | otherwise you get all the problems I described in the issue |
| [06:30:34] | <ergonlogic> | and we still have to write all the logic to handle that |
| [06:32:30] | <ergonlogic> | I'm ok with adding such functionality |
| [06:32:40] | <ergonlogic> | but it doesn't exist now |
| [06:34:06] | <formatC_vt> | and upgrade task can have an options like "do backups before upgrade", "create new platform because i'm too young to die" etc =) |
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| [06:49:06] | <helmo> | ergonlogic: formatC_vt my reasons are now in https://www.drupal.org/node/2555129 |
| [06:49:06] | <hefring> | https://www.drupal.org/node/2555129 => Use case for 'git pull' on platform? [#2555129] => 6 comments, 4 IRC mentions |
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| [09:14:51] | <cweagans> | :( https://gitter.im/terra-ops/terra-cli?at=55d3e391bdd5d6c9362b7e8d |
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| [09:59:52] | <cweagans> | ergonlogic: this is the monitoring thing I was telling you about: https://github.com/google/cadvisor |
