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| [10:28:11] | <ergonlogic> | bye/wi13 |
| [10:30:02] | <ergonlogic> | realityloop: in valkyrie we use avahi to broadcast mDNS |
| [10:30:17] | <realityloop> | does that work on OS X? |
| [10:30:30] | <ergonlogic> | it does as of 10.10.4 (?) |
| [10:30:35] | <ergonlogic> | I may be wrong about that |
| [10:30:38] | <realityloop> | I'm using 10.11 :) |
| [10:30:48] | <realityloop> | but yes Apple fixed DNS.. |
| [10:30:54] | <ergonlogic> | but OSX rolled-back their ill-conceived switch to a new network stack |
| [10:31:00] | <realityloop> | back to mdenresponder instead of discoveryd |
| [10:31:06] | <ergonlogic> | well, it's working in the latest update |
| [10:31:46] | <ergonlogic> | We just ripped out the vagrant-dns stuff we'd been doing to keep feature-parity b/w linux and osx hosts |
| [10:32:11] | <realityloop> | btw.. what is valkyrie? |
| [10:32:50] | <ergonlogic> | local dev stack built on aegir3 |
| [10:33:21] | <ergonlogic> | we also do some fancy footwork to mount dirs transparently b/w host and guest |
| [10:33:23] | <realityloop> | apache only, or nginx able? |
| [10:33:30] | <ergonlogic> | apache right now |
| [10:33:46] | <ergonlogic> | but it's Aegir, so it'd be entirely feasible to do nginx instead |
| [10:33:57] | <realityloop> | looking now |
| [10:34:26] | <ergonlogic> | mktg-heavy site: http://www.getvalkyrie.com/ |
| [10:35:03] | <ergonlogic> | https://github.com/GetValkyrie/valkyrie |
| [10:35:30] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, gotta put my son to bed. Back in ~45mins |
| [10:36:27] | <realityloop> | which version of Drush should I have locally? |
| [10:36:44] | <realityloop> | nvm.. rtfm |
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| [11:14:17] | <ergonlogic> | back |
| [11:24:03] | <realityloop> | ergonlogic: I got errors trying to build valkyrie |
| [11:24:18] | <ergonlogic> | care to be more specific :) |
| [11:24:43] | <realityloop> | http://pastebin.com/qxSUWME9 |
| [11:25:37] | <ergonlogic> | what command did you run? |
| [11:25:38] | <realityloop> | where do NFS shares get created? |
| [11:25:55] | <realityloop> | drush vnew valkyrie as per the readme |
| [11:25:55] | <ergonlogic> | in the project dir under platforms/ |
| [11:26:43] | <realityloop> | it seems to be working though |
| [11:26:51] | <ergonlogic> | there may still be some osx-specific stuff, since that was most affected by the recent changes that went into 0.5.0 |
| [11:26:59] | <realityloop> | I'm on OS X |
| [11:27:16] | <ergonlogic> | so, `drush @v uli` pops you into an aegir3? |
| [11:27:19] | <realityloop> | so I have to use .local for all sites I build? |
| [11:27:20] | <ergonlogic> | right, I know |
| [11:27:41] | <ergonlogic> | I think it's an avahi thing, iirc |
| [11:27:59] | <ergonlogic> | it's only for local dev |
| [11:28:06] | <ergonlogic> | and it'll append .local for you |
| [11:28:40] | <ergonlogic> | create a site call 'example.com', and it'll resolve locally as 'example-com.local' |
| [11:29:02] | <realityloop> | you should have nfs share for backups dir too |
| [11:29:09] | <ergonlogic> | why? |
| [11:29:13] | <realityloop> | rather.. it should |
| [11:29:16] | <realityloop> | why not? |
| [11:29:31] | <ergonlogic> | what would it do for you? |
| [11:29:35] | <ergonlogic> | what would be the point? |
| [11:30:14] | <realityloop> | clear out disk space inside the VM at the least.. |
| [11:30:34] | <ergonlogic> | well, you've got about 6gb free by default in the VM, iirc |
| [11:30:52] | <ergonlogic> | the way I use it, is to have a separsate project per... project |
| [11:31:14] | <ergonlogic> | that is, I just spin up a new valkyrie whenever I'm starting on something new |
| [11:31:23] | <ergonlogic> | and halt the other VMs |
| [11:31:26] | <realityloop> | yep |
| [11:31:39] | <realityloop> | need to speed up provisioning then.. |
| [11:31:49] | <ergonlogic> | I've never yet bumped into a size constraint in the VM |
| [11:31:59] | <realityloop> | could the box be pre-provisioned? |
| [11:32:08] | <ergonlogic> | well, I'm considering making a vagrant box out of it |
| [11:32:23] | <ergonlogic> | but there are some drawbacks, and possibly other complications |
| [11:33:20] | <ergonlogic> | and then there's the matter of carving out the time to do it, and maintain that as part of the release process |
| [11:33:29] | <realityloop> | yep |
| [11:33:37] | <realityloop> | packer may help.. |
| [11:33:47] | <ergonlogic> | realityloop: we're starting up an Aegir Support coop, in case you hadn't heard |
| [11:34:04] | <ergonlogic> | hopefully that'll mean more time (eventually) for such things |
| [11:34:06] | <realityloop> | this creates aliases for sites on host as well? |
| [11:34:16] | <ergonlogic> | packer would definitely be the way to go |
| [11:34:18] | <realityloop> | no I hadn't heard |
| [11:34:19] | <ergonlogic> | yes |
| [11:34:39] | <ergonlogic> | https://listes.koumbit.net/pipermail/business-aegirproject.org/2015-Augu... |
| [11:34:46] | <ergonlogic> | beginnings of discussions there |
| [11:35:13] | <ergonlogic> | lots of private discussions too |
| [11:35:20] | <ergonlogic> | gethering some steam |
| [11:35:46] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, I'd like to bring Valkyrie under the Aegir Project banner |
| [11:36:08] | <ergonlogic> | and support it as the local end of a dev->stage->prod tool-chain |
| [11:36:43] | <ergonlogic> | it was built for that, and has been used to great effect for 8+ months in that capacity |
| [11:37:11] | <ergonlogic> | using hosting_git to keep site config (exported via Features) in git |
| [11:37:14] | <realityloop> | you should add mention of it on the provision and hostmaster project pages.. |
| [11:37:32] | <ergonlogic> | well, I'd like the other maintainers to agree first |
| [11:38:08] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, moving in that direction |
| [11:41:33] | <ergonlogic> | it's got 3 faux vagrant plugins, 4 ansible roles as submodules, a couple Aegir extensions, a python-based replacement for the queue-daemon |
| [11:41:58] | <ergonlogic> | probably a couple more things that I'm forgetting |
| [11:42:56] | <ergonlogic> | each is fairly self-contained, and I've been practicing the Unix Philosophy |
| [11:43:04] | <ergonlogic> | "do one thing and do it well" |
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| [11:43:44] | <ergonlogic> | as opposed to Aegir projects hostorically being quite monolithic |
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| [12:22:53] | <realityloop> | ergonlogic: can I connect to the DB from host with a sql gui? |
| [12:23:53] | <ergonlogic> | I always use `drush @example-com sqlc` myself |
| [12:24:11] | <ergonlogic> | or the sql snapshot/diff commands that Valkyrie provides |
| [12:24:55] | <ergonlogic> | I guess theoretically, you could point phpmysqladmin or chive or whatever at it |
| [12:25:29] | <ergonlogic> | or perhaps even install it in the VM, and add hosting_dblogin or something |
| [12:27:04] | <ergonlogic> | I haven't checked, but I'd assume that valkyrie.local:3306 is exposed |
| [12:27:36] | <ergonlogic> | and the credentials are in the vm at /var/aegir/.drush/server_localhost.alias.drushrc.php |
| [12:27:55] | <ergonlogic> | or something like that, anyway |
| [12:28:03] | <ergonlogic> | realityloop: does that work for you? |
| [12:28:17] | <realityloop> | just about to check |
| [12:29:55] | <ergonlogic> | actually, phpmyadmin should be pretty easy to integrate via https://github.com/geerlingguy/ansible-role-phpmyadmin |
| [12:29:59] | <realityloop> | connection failed |
| [12:30:11] | <ergonlogic> | we already use a number of geerlingguy's roles |
| [12:30:14] | <realityloop> | I want to use sequal pro |
| [12:30:25] | <ergonlogic> | mysql is probably using a socket |
| [12:30:54] | <ergonlogic> | so you'd need to change some stuff in /etc/my.cnf, I believe |
| [12:31:09] | <realityloop> | got it |
| [12:31:43] | <ergonlogic> | realityloop: please document it somewhere, if you get it working |
| [12:31:48] | <realityloop> | just use ssh tunnel and then connect locally |
| [12:31:51] | <ergonlogic> | I'm sure others would be interested |
| [12:31:56] | <ergonlogic> | ah, ok |
| [12:33:33] | <realityloop> | ergonlogic: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s2//sh/fb792f69-73ba-4a36-9e63-85de637e7e... |
| [12:34:31] | <ergonlogic> | neat |
| [12:35:14] | <realityloop> | feel free to use it.. |
| [12:39:36] | <ergonlogic> | realityloop: thanks :) https://github.com/GetValkyrie/valkyrie/wiki/Using-SequelPro-w--Valkyrie |
| [12:39:47] | <realityloop> | no problem |
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| [15:34:52] | <formatC_vt> | ergonlogic> changing module weight is duct tape solution, i don't like it |
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| [16:17:44] | <formatC_vt> | ergonlogic> we can replace form_alter in site/platform module to variable_set (on hook when module enabled and disabled) for example, and move back form_alter to pull/checkout |
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| [22:08:21] | <ergonlogic> | formatC_vt: what exaclty is the problem with module weight? |
| [22:08:27] | <ergonlogic> | that's what it's for, after all |
| [22:08:43] | <ergonlogic> | we can just set it in hook_install() and we're done |
| [22:09:52] | <ergonlogic> | since git workflows can be quite complex, maybe it is a good idea to keep the different tasks separate... |
| [22:10:14] | <ergonlogic> | it'd at least keep the logic isolated, making debugging easier |
| [22:10:51] | <ergonlogic> | but, if we go that route, then we should split up the backend too |
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| [22:17:17] | <ergonlogic> | there's also a bunch of confused and inconsistent switching between looking up the site or platform path, in some cases, and assuming repo_path is set in others |
| [22:17:23] | <ergonlogic> | in the backend code |
| [22:19:54] | <ergonlogic> | drush_provision_git_provision_verify_validate() is a good example of a function that ought really be moved under site and platform backends |
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| [05:32:18] | <ergonlogic> | bgm: have you seen errors where it's looking for the autoloader in the site-specific path during installation? |
| [05:32:40] | <ergonlogic> | bgm: sorry, for recent versions of civicrm 4.6.x |
| [05:33:13] | <bgm> | ergonlogic: not that I recall, but I haven't tested in the past ~ 2-3 weeks |
| [05:33:58] | <ergonlogic> | hmm, ok |
| [05:34:24] | <ergonlogic> | are you mostly supporting aegir3 or aegir2 in provision_civicrm? |
| [05:34:53] | <ergonlogic> | we'll be looking to deploy a new aegir3 in the next week or so |
| [05:35:08] | <bgm> | only aegir3 |
| [05:35:11] | <ergonlogic> | and I'm wondering if this might Just Work on aegir3 |
| [05:35:15] | <ergonlogic> | aha, ok |
| [05:35:18] | <ergonlogic> | good to know |
| [05:35:42] | <ergonlogic> | you've been cleaning up the v1/v2 stuff, and so forth, I guess? |
| [05:35:55] | <bgm> | yep |
| [05:35:58] | <bgm> | slowly, but yeah |
| [05:35:59] | <ergonlogic> | is it merged under hosting_civicrm? |
| [05:36:04] | <bgm> | no |
| [05:36:07] | <ergonlogic> | or still separate? |
| [05:36:13] | <bgm> | haven't contacted omega8 yet, to know what are BOA's plans |
| [05:36:45] | <ergonlogic> | ok, so hosting_civicrm and provision_civicrm are both required? |
| [05:37:00] | <ergonlogic> | I may start a branch to merge them, if you're cool with that |
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