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[00:03:49]<Captain_Haddock>Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my Aegir 1.x install. Trying to first upgrade to 2.x, I find that I'm unable to upgrade drush to 5.x. I'm on Debian Squeeze
[00:04:21]<Captain_Haddock>Installing php-console-table as per the upgrade docs doesn't appear to help.
[00:05:00]<Captain_Haddock>apt-get install aegir2 aegir2-provision aegir2-hostmaster drush gives me
[00:05:03]<Captain_Haddock>aegir2-hostmaster : Depends: drush (>= 5.5) but 4.5-2~bpo60+1 is to be installed
[00:05:04]<Captain_Haddock> aegir2-provision : Depends: drush (>= 5.10) but 4.5-2~bpo60+1 is to be installed
[00:05:48]<Captain_Haddock>Any ideas how to get around this?
[00:07:15]<ergonlogic>Captain_Haddock: I think you'll need to upgrade to Wheezy, at least
[00:07:37]<Captain_Haddock>ergonlogic: Ah :(
[00:09:22]<ergonlogic>I believe our policy is to support stable & old-stable
[00:10:47]<Captain_Haddock>ergonlogic: The upgrade docs might need to be updated then: "2.x note: if you are running Debian Squeeze 6.0, to get drush-5.8.x and above, download php-console-table manually and install it"
[00:11:38]<ergonlogic>yes, we're transitioning our docs to aegir.readthedocs.org too
[00:11:46]<ergonlogic>so there's further work to do there
[00:12:05]<ergonlogic>cweagans_afk gboudrias helmo ping. scrum chat?
[00:13:13]<ergonlogic>bgm: ping. interested in joining our scrum chat?
[00:13:18]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: I'm on vacation :)
[00:13:34]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: ok, so ignore me, then :)
[00:13:43]<gboudrias>Well, I still wanted to release 2.5 today
[00:14:01]<ergonlogic>now, there's dedication :)
[00:14:39]<ergonlogic>I don't know whether you saw it, but I added some server stuff to hosting_probes
[00:15:11]<gboudrias>Yeah, looks cool
[00:15:21]<ergonlogic>when you're back from vacation, we should take a look at finishing up the API, to make extending these super easy.
[00:15:30]<gboudrias>hosting_probes is actually pretty high on the list of things to work on
[00:15:56]<ergonlogic>yeah, I'd started looking at DRD again
[00:16:09]<ergonlogic>but we can accomplish the same with some much less overhead
[00:16:12]<gboudrias>Well, I don't know if I'd finished anything in hosting_probes
[00:16:24]<gboudrias>Meaning, I wanted to use entities
[00:16:27]<ergonlogic>since we already know which sites, etc. we have, and have a secure channel to probe them
[00:16:47]<gboudrias>Yeah I would hope so (re: DRD)
[00:17:01]<ergonlogic>ok, well, DRD uses entities to store their data, iirc
[00:17:14]<ergonlogic>so maybe we could look at borriwing some of that
[00:17:27]<gboudrias>Indeed
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[00:17:36]<ergonlogic>I'd be happy with just a couple simple tables, though
[00:17:49]<ergonlogic>depending on how much overhead we'd be looking at
[00:18:08]<ergonlogic>both db tables, and html tables, fwiw
[00:18:47]<gboudrias>Likewise
[00:19:06]<ergonlogic>I think that might be a reasonable v1.0
[00:19:17]<ergonlogic>then tackle entities for v2
[00:19:20]<Captain_Haddock>ergonlogic: I saw that in the 3.0 notes. Thanks. It's still odd that I can't upgrade to 2.x. Presumably it was possible earlier.
[00:19:29]<Captain_Haddock>(on Squeeze)
[00:20:17]<ergonlogic>Captain_Haddock: I think the issue is that Drush was in Squeze directly
[00:20:25]<Captain_Haddock>Ah
[00:20:45]<helmo>hi all, catching up...
[00:20:46]<Captain_Haddock>Actually, does the autobackup module work with 1.x? That's the main feature that I'm looking for atm.
[00:20:46]<ergonlogic>if you specify the repo you want to use for it, you should still be able to install the more recent version
[00:21:25]<ergonlogic>Captain_Haddock: I'd still recommend that you upgrade, since we aren't providing any further support for 1.x
[00:22:39]<Captain_Haddock>Will do. The thought of upgrading my Linode is what's giving me caution. That didn't go well the last time :(
[00:23:04]<helmo>ergonlogic: I've made some progress on the archived community site ...
[00:23:24]<helmo>added a red warning and polished away a few links ... http://community-archive.aegirproject.org/
[00:23:59]<ergonlogic>Captain_Haddock: you should be able to use apt pinning, and/or '-t' to get a more recent Drush
[00:24:07]<ergonlogic>helmo: cool!
[00:25:11]<helmo>I think we're about ready to start redirecting to it ... a vhost config is already prepared on zeus https://www.drupal.org/node/2537574
[00:25:13]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2537574 => Next step for the aegir community site - Post OA 1.x [#2537574] => 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[00:25:13]<Captain_Haddock>ergonlogic: I'm looking at drush dl atm
[00:25:23]<ergonlogic>helmo: could we provide a link to aegir.rtfd.org, on the archive?
[00:26:01]<ergonlogic>helmo: ok, I think we can just setup a CNAME record, no?
[00:26:45]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: entities would be neat for the Views and hooks.
[00:26:46]<helmo>yes we can update the current A record to a CNAME pointing to githubpages.
[00:27:08]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: Well, the only difference between having a table and entities is just one hook as far as I remember
[00:27:18]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: it'd be great to hook up hosting_notifications, so that I can get paged if someone enables php_filter, or whatever
[00:27:32]<gboudrias>Yeah
[00:27:33]<helmo>I'll look into adding a link
[00:27:53]<ergonlogic>helmo: how are you doing that, btw?
[00:28:02]<ergonlogic>js?
[00:28:51]<ergonlogic>ideally, we'd add a red or orange banner across the top of all pages, with a brief explanation and the link to the new docs
[00:29:17]<ergonlogic>that is, make it really explicit
[00:29:41]<helmo>ergonlogic: I've used find and sed to rewrite the html... commands are included in the commit message
[00:29:53]<ergonlogic>ok, I'll take a look
[00:31:21]<helmo>one of my experiments had the red text do more explanation ... but then it got in the way of the breadcrum ... e.g. on http://community-archive.aegirproject.org/node/27/
[00:33:13]<helmo>if someone comes up with a better html snippit to add a banner then I'll be happy to rewrite it in all the other files
[00:33:26]<ergonlogic>so, how would people feel about adding provision-civicrm to golden contrib?
[00:33:41]<ergonlogic>helmo: I'm cloning the repo now, and I'll experiment a bit
[00:37:33]<helmo>ergonlogic: I don't use it personally but don't mind... did all the drush code get merged into the hosting part?
[00:37:53]<ergonlogic>not yet, but I'm planning to do that tomorrow
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[00:42:11]<helmo>ok, it would make a good addition ... and help NDI
[00:44:15]<gboudrias>Agreed
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[00:53:40]<gboudrias>The 2.5 upgrade works, I'm moving the 2.5 package to stable
[00:55:17]<ergonlogic>helmo: I've got a big banner, in a new div, and the very top of <body>
[00:55:27]<ergonlogic>I'm going to push that shortly
[00:55:33]<ergonlogic>let me know what you think
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[01:00:02]<gboudrias>done
[01:00:30]<gboudrias>I'll look at the 2.x docs branch
[01:00:57]<Captain_Haddock>drush dl is only offering to install 7.x-1.x-dev or 7.x-5.x-dev ; Aegir docs appears to only recommend Drush 6. Will 2.x run on drush 7.5?
[01:01:14]<Captain_Haddock>(And how about 1.x?)
[01:03:33]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: We don't have a 2.x doc branch yet?
[01:05:05]* Captain_Haddock chances it with 7.1
[01:05:15]<gboudrias>Captain_Haddock: Are you talking about the drush version? I recommend simply installing from the repo, the version included in the aegir repo just works
[01:05:43]<Captain_Haddock>gboudrias: I'm on Debian Squeeze. The repo only has 4.5.x
[01:05:53]<gboudrias>Captain_Haddock: The debian repo version is out of date, so we include a more recent version in the aegirproject repo
[01:06:07]<Captain_Haddock>gboudrias: oh
[01:06:35]<gboudrias>Captain_Haddock: Well, it should be auto-selected though, did you add the repo to your lists?
[01:06:49]<gboudrias>to your apt sources I mean
[01:09:05]<Captain_Haddock>gboudrias: I have deb http://debian.aegirproject.org stable main in my apt list
[01:09:34]<gboudrias>hmm
[01:09:55]<Captain_Haddock>gboudrias: from apt-cache show for drush: "Package: drush / Version: 4.5-2~bpo60+1 / Maintainer: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@koumbit.org>"
[01:10:09]<Captain_Haddock>Presumably the koumbit.org address means that it's the aegir build.
[01:11:19]<gboudrias>Captain_Haddock: Sorry I don't have all the context here, I assume you ran apt-get update? the repo has 5.10: http://debian.aegirproject.org/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[01:11:23]<viashimo>if you have drush4 installed, but want 5 you could try apt-get install drush5 (if your repo is configured) this will uninstall drush4 which is provided by the drush package iirc
[01:12:11]<viashimo>I had to finaggle it once too, but I don't remember much now :\
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[01:15:46]* ergonlogic just added a banner to the community archive: http://community-archive.aegirproject.org/
[01:15:53]<ergonlogic>and would welcome feedback
[01:15:55]<Captain_Haddock>viashimo: I don't see a drush5 package in Squeeze.
[01:16:33]<Captain_Haddock>gboudrias: Yep, I rang apt-get update and upgrade shows no drush upgrades.
[01:16:43]<Captain_Haddock>ran*
[01:19:07]<gboudrias>Maybe it doesn't select the latest version for some reason but I don't know why it would
[01:19:33]<gboudrias>Captain_Haddock: If you install Aegir2 (or 3) with apt-get it should select the 5.10 version automatically, since that's the dependency
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[01:19:56]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: Looks good
[01:20:11]<Captain_Haddock>gboudrias: That actually failed for me due to the drush requirement (only 4.5 was apparently available).
[01:20:30]<gboudrias>Captain_Haddock: What distribution are you on?
[01:20:35]<Captain_Haddock>I'm trying to see if I can list all the packages available from the aegir repo to my server.
[01:20:38]<Captain_Haddock>gboudrias: Debian Squeeze
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[01:21:32]<gboudrias>That could explain it, I really don't see myself being much help below Wheezy
[01:21:55]<gboudrias>Maybe someone else has an idea though, I'm not much for debian development
[01:22:55]<Captain_Haddock>gboudrias: No worries. Thanks for the assistance :)
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[01:24:12]<Captain_Haddock>Going back to my earlier question will Aegir 2.x run on drush 7.1?
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[01:28:57]<ergonlogic>Captain_Haddock: it's possible, but not very likely
[01:29:25]<ergonlogic>Captain_Haddock: when you run 'apt-get update' you're seeing the aegir debian repos?
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[01:29:43]<ergonlogic>and they're succeeding?
[01:30:03]<ergonlogic>if not, you may need to update your repo key
[01:31:17]<Captain_Haddock>ergonlogic: yep, I do. apt-get update shows:
[01:31:19]<Captain_Haddock>Hit http://debian.aegirproject.org stable Release.gpg
[01:31:21]<Captain_Haddock>Ign http://debian.aegirproject.org/ stable/main Translation-en
[01:31:22]<Captain_Haddock>Ign http://debian.aegirproject.org/ stable/main Translation-en_US
[01:32:01]<Captain_Haddock>Running aptitude search "?origin (aegir) ?installed" lists drush as well as the aegir packages.
[01:32:26]<Captain_Haddock>"i drush - command line shell and Unix scripting interface for Drupal "
[01:34:41]<Captain_Haddock>I guess I'm going to have to buckle down for an OS upgrade.
[01:37:10]<ergonlogic>Have you tried `sudo apt-get install drush=5.10.0-2`
[01:38:31]<ergonlogic>Captain_Haddock: ^^^
[01:39:10]<Captain_Haddock>ergonlogic: ooh, that triggers soem activity
[01:39:43]<Captain_Haddock>ergonlogic: It wants to remove aegir* but also wants to remove drush-make
[01:39:48]<Captain_Haddock>drush-make which might be the conflicting package
[01:40:17]<ergonlogic>right, it'd have to
[01:40:49]<ergonlogic>you could try adding 'aegir2' to that command
[01:41:22]<Captain_Haddock>That works wonders too :)
[01:41:48]<ergonlogic>fwiw, drush make was merged into drush itself
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[01:42:01]<Captain_Haddock>The following packages will be REMOVED: aegir aegir-hostmaster aegir-provision drush-make
[01:42:02]<Captain_Haddock>The following NEW packages will be installed: aegir2 aegir2-hostmaster aegir2-provision
[01:42:04]<Captain_Haddock>The following packages will be upgraded: drush
[01:45:41]* Captain_Haddock vigorously shakes ergonlogic's hand.
[01:47:44]<Captain_Haddock>ergonlogic: aegir3 appears to now be available as well :)
[01:48:10]<ergonlogic>Captain_Haddock: yep, and that's the recommended version
[01:48:24]<gboudrias>I removed the references to community in http://aegir.readthedocs.org/en/3.x/community/release-process/
[01:48:40]<gboudrias>Still not sure what to do about the 2.5 release notes
[01:50:25]<Captain_Haddock>Verification warning: "Table 'ctools_css_cache' doesn't exist query: DELETE FROM ctools_css_cache database.mysqli.inc:134"
[02:09:21]<Captain_Haddock>Looks like manually creating the table is not recommended. Upgrading to Aegir 3 first.
[02:11:14]<Captain_Haddock>Oh dear
[02:11:32]<Captain_Haddock>"Some settings on your machine make Composer unable to work properly."
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[02:28:42]<Captain_Haddock>All looks good after the upgrade. The ctools_css_cache error came up during the apt upgrade; but it doesn't crop up during the hostmaster site verification.
[02:29:11]<Captain_Haddock>Many thanks ergonlogic, gboudrias, viashimo :)
[02:29:29]<Captain_Haddock>I can put off the Debian upgrade for a year longer \o/
[02:29:33]<gboudrias>No problem :)
[02:29:36]<gboudrias>hahah
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[03:06:46]<ergonlogic>I'm glad to hear it worked out
[03:11:45]<Guest21378>Hi everybody, can i ask some help to someone about aegir install profil ?
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[03:12:18]<gboudrias>Guest21378: That's what this channel is for :)
[03:12:25]<Guest21378>ah
[03:12:32]<Guest21378>je viens de t'envoyer un message via drupal
[03:12:37]<Guest21378>(arthur)
[03:12:40]<Guest21378>je ne t'avais pas vu
[03:12:46]<Guest21378>tu parles bien fr ?
[03:13:29]<gboudrias>Ah oui je vois! Mieux vaut s'en tenir à l'anglais pour que d'autres puissent aider
[03:13:34]<gboudrias>(I'm on vacation)
[03:13:43]<Guest21378>ok, thank you Guillaume
[03:13:51]<Guest21378>well, to resume my situation :
[03:14:04]<Guest21378>i installed a D7 platform on aegir
[03:14:24]<gboudrias>Which version of Aegir?
[03:14:26]<Guest21378>and i want to install site with one of my platform profile (a D7 profile so)
[03:14:29]<gboudrias>(2 or 3?)
[03:14:32]<Guest21378>aegir 2
[03:14:37]<Guest21378>i installed yesterday
[03:14:39]<gboudrias>ok go on
[03:14:42]<Guest21378>apt-gegt install aegir2
[03:14:43]<Guest21378>ok
[03:15:03]<Guest21378>what i wan't to do is to ask some information during the profil installation
[03:15:08]<Guest21378>from aegir (front)
[03:15:18]<Guest21378>and get this informations from backend
[03:15:22]<Guest21378>so i follo this tutorial
[03:15:32]<Guest21378>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/75
[03:15:42]<gboudrias>Yeah you definitely have the right tutorial
[03:15:47]<Guest21378>but i did not arrive
[03:15:54]<Guest21378>to have either my variable set
[03:16:05]<Guest21378>or my environment variable
[03:16:16]<Guest21378>and i don't arrive to debug
[03:16:47]<Guest21378>i wonder if i had to set proper file permissions for my drush file or something else
[03:17:42]<gboudrias>hm well yes, but any read permissions should be enough as far as I know
[03:17:52]<gboudrias>For what it's worth, this might be easier with Aegir3
[03:18:09]<Guest21378>yes, it is what i think too, and my files are readable
[03:18:23]<gboudrias>Since you can have the hosting and provision (frontend and backend) modules in the same folder
[03:19:14]<gboudrias>For aegir2, Provision extensions go into /var/aegir/.drush
[03:19:53]<Guest21378>well, in this directory, i have created a drush file "standalone.drush.inc"
[03:20:06]<Guest21378>(standalone is the name of my inslattaon profile)
[03:21:13]<gboudrias>Guest21378: And you have drush_HOOK_pre_provision_install ?
[03:21:22]<Guest21378>i have two hooks
[03:21:26]<gboudrias>You should be able to test this all by itself, afaik
[03:21:33]<Guest21378>drush_standalone_pre_provision_install and standaleone_provision_apache_vhost_config
[03:22:03]<gboudrias>Ok, the first thing to do is make sure pre_provision_install gets called
[03:22:11]<Guest21378>yes
[03:22:26]<gboudrias>You can use drush_log inside it, it should appear in the task log
[03:22:43]<Guest21378>well, good thing ! i will test it
[03:23:19]<Guest21378>do i have to create another site
[03:23:27]<Guest21378>or just verify my platform ?
[03:23:33]<Guest21378>to see the log
[03:24:05]<gboudrias>Guest21378: This is after site install, so you need a new site
[03:24:18]<Guest21378>ok, i will do it now
[03:28:41]<Guest21378>i just do "drush_log('ok')"
[03:28:45]<Guest21378>nothing appeared
[03:28:52]<Guest21378>in the task log
[03:30:28]<gboudrias>Guest21378: It's probably not getting called then, try drush cc drush
[03:30:33]<gboudrias>(Clearing drush cache)
[03:30:39]<Guest21378>okey
[03:30:39]<gboudrias>And try another new site
[03:31:12]<Guest21378>but for hook replacement
[03:31:16]<Guest21378>why i have to set
[03:31:26]<Guest21378>drush_HOOK => HOOK = ?
[03:31:57]<gboudrias>Not sure what you mean, generally you must replace HOOK with the name of your module
[03:32:13]<gboudrias>There may be a few inconsistencies here and there
[03:32:59]<Guest21378>yes but my drush file is not in a module
[03:33:27]<Guest21378>so i don't know by why a have to replace HOOK
[03:33:30]<gboudrias>Should work anyway, for provision extensions
[03:33:43]<gboudrias>Yeah I just use the same name as the module
[03:33:43]<Guest21378>my file is in /var/aegir/.drush
[03:34:11]<Guest21378>yes, but which module are you talking about ?
[03:34:20]<gboudrias>Any name will do, you just have to choose a name
[03:34:25]<Guest21378>ah ok
[03:34:31]<Guest21378>i try another site
[03:34:32]<gboudrias>Well, to "bridge" values, you'll need a module in hostmaster too
[03:34:49]<gboudrias>(A drupal module in the frontend site)
[03:35:38]<Guest21378>i have created a module in frontend (D6) yes
[03:35:39]<gboudrias>This is normal since the form is in the frontend
[03:35:47]<Guest21378>and i have another drush file into
[03:36:08]<gboudrias>So you can just use the same name
[03:36:29]<gboudrias>But it shouldn't really matter with drush files
[03:36:40]<Guest21378>drush_edw_create_site_pre_hosting_task
[03:36:58]<Guest21378>si i replace standalone by edw_create_site
[03:37:49]<gboudrias>I guess that works, although edw is probably specific enough, but it's just a preference at this point
[03:38:29]<Guest21378>ok, i retest another site like that, i added a drush_log into the other drush file
[03:39:06]<Guest21378>ddo i need to clear cache ?
[03:39:12]<Guest21378>(from frontend ?)
[03:40:19]<gboudrias>Shouldn't matter for the drush extension
[03:41:05]<Guest21378>for drush, i use a previous version that i had (version 8)
[03:41:28]<gboudrias>Drush 8? Might not be compatible with Aegir2 (not sure)
[03:41:40]<gboudrias>I'm surprised anything runs
[03:42:19]<Guest21378>yes
[03:42:42]<Guest21378>still none log into my task logs
[03:43:09]<Guest21378>my hook are not called
[03:43:14]<gboudrias>You might want to look at the Example module in aegir, or some contrib modules such as https://www.drupal.org/project/provision_site_backup_manager
[03:43:29]<gboudrias>There are too many possible details to list them all
[03:44:21]<Guest21378>ok
[03:45:07]<Guest21378>Do you know where drush_command_invoke is called
[03:45:11]<gboudrias>You might want to try Aegir3 if this is for a long-term project, Aegir2 will be deprecated when Drupal6 is
[03:45:26]<Guest21378>ahh ok
[03:45:31]<Guest21378>Aegir3 is stable ?
[03:45:34]<gboudrias>yeah
[03:45:40]<Guest21378>based on D7 ?
[03:45:43]<gboudrias>Yep
[03:45:49]<Guest21378>Cool
[03:45:57]<Guest21378>so it is drush hostmaster-migrate ?
[03:46:09]<Guest21378>or apt-get install aegir3
[03:46:30]<gboudrias>Missing some context but the drush_command_invoke call probably in Provision itself, usually in /usr/share/drush/command/provision or something
[03:46:53]<gboudrias>The aegir3 package should replace the aegir2 package automatically, assuming you installed with apt-get in the first place
[03:47:11]<Guest21378>yes i installed with apt-get
[03:47:24]<gboudrias>Okay, so you can probably use apt-get to install aegir3 then
[03:47:24]<Guest21378>so if i use apt-get install aegir3, it should be ok ?
[03:47:28]<Guest21378>ok
[03:47:29]<Guest21378>perfect
[03:47:31]<gboudrias>What distro are you on?
[03:47:58]<Guest21378>debian squeeze
[03:48:20]<Guest21378>all seems to work
[03:48:23]<gboudrias>Yeah that's a bit old but should work as well as Wheezy, I think
[03:48:57]<Guest21378>running all updates
[03:50:26]<Guest21378>i will test aegir3 so
[03:50:39]<Guest21378>i will come back to IRC if i have some trouble
[03:50:47]<gboudrias>Cool :)
[03:50:48]<Guest21378>well, many thanks for yout support !
[03:50:58]<gboudrias>Well for one thing, you'll probably have to migrate your module to D7
[03:51:01]<gboudrias>No problem
[03:51:02]<Guest21378>do you live in paris or canada ?
[03:51:11]<Guest21378>Ok, i will do it !
[03:51:18]<gboudrias>Guest21378: Montréal :0
[03:51:20]<gboudrias>:)*
[03:51:23]<Guest21378>nice
[03:52:06]<Guest21378>so we will don't meet in Paris but probably during a drupal meeting ;)
[03:52:19]<Guest21378>have a nice day Guillaume
[03:53:11]<gboudrias>hahah vous aussi!
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