IRC logs for #aegir, 2015-10-01 (GMT)

2015-09-30
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[17:42:34]<helmo>ergonlogic: https://www.drupal.org/node/2578131
[17:42:35]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2578131 => Let aegir3-cluster-slave conflict with other Debian packages [#2578131] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[23:39:03]<Aaron-S>Good day - I have a few architecture questions if anyone has a moment
[23:42:53]<helmo>Aaron-S: I have a quick moment
[23:44:04]<Aaron-S>PM-ing now
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[00:02:54]<gboudrias>Hi all
[00:03:14]<gboudrias>Not too much to report this week. I fixed the garbage collection in hosting_site_backup_manager.
[00:04:19]<gboudrias>(You're probably going to want to look at that if you're running scheduled backups in Aegir3)
[00:09:07]<helmo>Hi
[00:09:07]<hefring>eh oh
[00:09:34]<helmo>Good thing about hosting_site_backup_manager .. we should be looking into a cleanup release there soonish.
[00:09:49]<gboudrias>Agreed
[00:10:10]<helmo>I tried h_remote_import, and it worked nice... just needed a minor readme update.
[00:10:20]<helmo>I think there was a regression from https://www.drupal.org/node/2571811 the new config option needs to be defined. I think I fixed it. but as the Debian install test is still failing it was not seen earlier :(
[00:10:21]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2571811 => Create hostmaster platform with working-copy option via Debian [#2571811] => 5 comments, 1 IRC mention
[00:11:54]<gboudrias>Ah whoups, alright
[00:14:24]<helmo>I was asked to look into 'lite' remote servers... letting Aegir suport a site on a remote server that has been configured with some controlpanel... e.g. the git tasks could still be usefull there. But it will need more thought
[00:16:37]<helmo>a bit related to that I'm also thinkig of adding the option to hosting_sync to fetch data from any drush alias... then e.g. the production site could be hosted anywhere
[00:16:38]<gboudrias>Hmm that's interesting, I started using multiservers and I noticed Aegir expects an aegir ssh user on remote Apache server. I don't know if there's a good technical reason for that.
[00:18:31]<helmo>yes h_remote_import also just assumes an aegir username on the remote side
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[00:22:07]<gboudrias>Hm yeah, I wonder if we could do something about it, but I guess it works well enough for me
[00:22:10]<gboudrias>See ya! :)
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[00:50:54]<Aaron-S>@all spoke with helmo earlier to some extent on similar items - is there anyone with some insight on having redundancy/failover for an aegir installed platform with n number of sites?
[00:54:52]<gboudrias>ergonlogic maybe ^ ?
[00:55:21]<gboudrias>Aaron-S: I mean, this isn't really Aegir-specific, it's the same old Drupal problem as far as I can tell, no?
[01:00:35]<Aaron-S>we install sites with aegir that share a codebase
[01:00:52]<Aaron-S>php went down
[01:00:58]<Aaron-S>took everything not in varnish with it
[01:01:37]<Aaron-S>just need to know if there is anything aegir side that allows you to edit once and deploy to multiple servers
[01:04:30]<gboudrias>Aaron-S: Nothing specific to Aegir as far as I know, but ergonlogic has been doing a lot of work on redundancy recently, I'm sure he wouldn't mind you emailing him
[01:04:51]<gboudrias>(He uses redundant sites on Aegir)
[01:10:05]<Aaron-S>ok thanks
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[03:33:44]<helmo>Aaron-S: I don't it's possible (not aegir specific, but at all) to not suffer from the same bugs on different webservers with the same code. Either you have the same code (and bugs) or you have to manage how code gets written to your servers independantly ... e.g. applying an edit on all servers
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[05:20:59]* ergonlogic feels stupid for missing the scrum this AM
[05:21:05]<ergonlogic>sorry about that
[05:21:18]<ergonlogic>All day I've been thinking I'd forgotten something...
[05:21:37]<ergonlogic>but I was working on my mac, where irc sucks
[05:22:04]<gboudrias>hahah
[05:22:25]<gboudrias>I think it's pretty relaxed at this point, we all have logs anyway
[05:24:49]<ergonlogic>yeah...
[05:25:30]<ergonlogic>Aaron-S: can you explain what the problem is a bitt more?
[05:26:12]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: there isn't any reason, technically, that the remote user has to be called 'aegir'
[05:27:00]<ergonlogic>but we do need to be able to ssh to remotes
[05:27:12]<ergonlogic>I'm not sure I understand the problem you raised
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[05:28:09]<ergonlogic>helmo: remote servers are already pretty 'lite'. We don't install Drush, Provision, etc.
[05:28:36]<ergonlogic>Just apache/nginx in the case of a webserver
[05:28:45]<ergonlogic>not sure how much lighter we can get
[05:31:52]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: I just don't see an option to use a different SSH user when I'm adding the server in the frontend, but then again you'd need more than that because you need to know where to RSYNC etc
[05:32:21]<ergonlogic>no, there's nothing like that in the front-end
[05:34:54]<ergonlogic>drush certainly supports setting a different user
[05:36:45]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: I believe that "script_user" could be set to any username
[05:37:05]<ergonlogic>we'd need to look at the template for generating aliases though
[05:37:39]<ergonlogic>it's probably just defaulting to the aegir user on the master
[05:38:07]<gboudrias>Alright, I mean I don't really know if there's a use case anyway, it works for me
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[05:45:24]<ergonlogic>yeah, I'd need to know more about the intended use-case
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