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[01:05:21]<helmo>Hi all... ergonlogic gboudrias
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[01:59:15]<formatC_vt>hi =)
[02:00:11]<gboudrias>Hi!
[02:00:24]<helmo>formatC_vt: anything for you that should really get into Aegir 3.2?
[02:00:27]<gboudrias>helmo: Daylight savings time changed last Sunday, it's actually 10 right now here
[02:00:31]<gboudrias>Sorry about that
[02:01:25]<helmo>Yea... time to stop messing with DST ... we had it a few weeks ago :(
[02:02:00]<gboudrias>hahah, yeah I've never liked DST
[02:02:42]<gboudrias>I see you did the release notes, awesome
[02:04:01]<gboudrias>And you did the golden contrib releases, amazing
[02:05:21]<gboudrias>Oh I guess we also have a scrum usually
[02:05:42]<gboudrias>I put Hosting Network on drupal.org and made more progress: https://www.drupal.org/project/hosting_network
[02:06:06]<gboudrias>You can now log in to any remote site through the interface
[02:06:42]<helmo>nice
[02:06:43]<gboudrias>And run all simple tasks (confirm and "just run" like verify and disable)
[02:06:51]<gboudrias>On remote sites and platforms
[02:07:15]<gboudrias>I'll keep it short, that was pretty much my week :)
[02:07:59]<helmo>could be nice to link this to hosting_sync ... it already works on most drush aliases ... https://www.drupal.org/node/2585379
[02:08:00]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2585379 => Let the sync task work on any Drush alias [#2585379] => 3 comments, 1 IRC mention
[02:08:55]<gboudrias>Yeah I'm actually planning to make hosting_network_tasks_extra :)
[02:09:16]<gboudrias>But complex tasks (with forms) will take longer
[02:09:36]<helmo>I tested with Drush 8 rc2 and Drupal 8 rc2 ... worked ... I used the hosted site to start upgrading http://drupal.org/project/whois
[02:11:07]<helmo>most of my other Drupal releated work was on Drush Search & Replace .. https://www.drupal.org/node/2608182
[02:11:07]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2608182 => Add support for comments, variables and profile_fields [#2608182] => 3 comments, 1 IRC mention
[02:11:32]<helmo>we might eventually use some of that code in our deploy code
[02:11:48]<gboudrias>huh, neat
[02:11:54]<gboudrias>Yeah sounds familiar
[02:13:31]<gboudrias>Shall we continue the release? Seems like it's just the two of us for now
[02:14:24]<helmo>yes, please.
[02:15:10]<gboudrias>helmo: We disabled the dev builds?
[02:15:16]<helmo>I'll see what I can still do before dinner... will be back online later tonight
[02:15:21]<helmo>gboudrias: I already did
[02:15:22]<gboudrias>right that's 2.1, sorry
[02:17:36]<gboudrias>I fixed a link in the release notes so I think that's good too
[02:18:51]<gboudrias>I guess now we run release.sh
[02:20:06]<ergonlogic>hi, sorry I'm late
[02:21:13]<gboudrias>Hi! :D
[02:21:49]<ergonlogic>ok, caught up on conversation
[02:22:14]<ergonlogic>I'm still swamped with client work, but I can try to find an hour or so to help with the release, if needed
[02:22:37]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: I'm curious about hosting_network...
[02:22:43]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: It's pretty neat :p
[02:23:27]<gboudrias>Especially in that it just creates tasks, it doesn't really interfere in any way so we can keep all the logic in the remote
[02:23:53]<ergonlogic>ok, so, it's a full remote with it's own UI, etc?
[02:24:51]<ergonlogic>this past week, I've been doing dev work on a remote server
[02:25:00]<ergonlogic>just a regular Aegir web node
[02:25:07]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: It connects two Aegir servers, so you just install the network node feature on the remotes, and the main hosting_network server serves as a dashboard of sorts
[02:25:12]<ergonlogic>and it's been a bit of a PITA
[02:25:39]<ergonlogic>ok
[02:25:54]<ergonlogic>do you even need hosting_network to run on an Aegir?
[02:25:57]<gboudrias>You mean the multiserver setup? Yeah it was becoming harder than making this whole new thing
[02:26:22]<ergonlogic>yeah, the main PITA is the lack of drush on the remote
[02:26:35]<gboudrias>Hm yeah but I guess it's mostly for the class functions to get all the pretty colors
[02:27:10]<ergonlogic>we've been committing and pushing frequently, to avoid possibly losing our work, on a site verify
[02:27:12]<gboudrias>Most of the interface was copied/adapted from hosting into new theme functions
[02:27:23]<ergonlogic>ok, interesting
[02:27:28]<gboudrias>Yeah that's the main problem for me too
[02:27:54]<gboudrias>Well, it was, I was about to install Kerberos on all remote nodes and I thought to myself... Nope
[02:28:08]<ergonlogic>the main idea behind the 'smart' remotes was to run a headless aegir there, basically
[02:28:18]<ergonlogic>install drush and provision
[02:28:40]<ergonlogic>create the aliases/contexts on the remotes
[02:28:44]<ergonlogic>etc.
[02:29:20]<ergonlogic>but still use drush/ssh as the communication/control mechanism
[02:29:31]<gboudrias>Hmm I see what you mean but it just seems more complicated, hosting_services is already pretty good
[02:29:42]<ergonlogic>right
[02:30:13]<ergonlogic>one benefit with thsi approach is that you have an isolated front-end that you can grant devs access to, and whatnot
[02:30:33]<ergonlogic>sandboxed from the main one, I guess
[02:30:39]<gboudrias>Yeah pretty much
[02:31:01]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: I was about to run release.sh, any objections? :)
[02:31:07]<ergonlogic>nope
[02:31:17]<ergonlogic>was hosting_civicrm added to golden contrib?
[02:31:34]<gboudrias>oh good question...
[02:31:56]<ergonlogic>if yes, it should default to 'experimental'
[02:32:08]<ergonlogic>but eventually it'd be good to move it to 'advanced'
[02:32:20]<ergonlogic>so we can support it via the coop
[02:32:34]<ergonlogic>w/o requiring an Enterprise agreement
[02:33:46]<ergonlogic>anyway, if not, then I'll make sure to get it into 3.3
[02:34:33]<gboudrias>I'm pretty sure it wasn't added yet but we should really get it into 3.2
[02:34:47]<gboudrias>I'm looking for the makefile, do you know where it is? I thought it was in hostmaster?
[02:34:58]<gboudrias>(for golden contrib)
[02:35:08]<ergonlogic>I don't recall
[02:35:09]<ergonlogic>hang on
[02:35:32]<gboudrias>It is
[02:35:37]<gboudrias>Sorry, I was in the wrong branch
[02:35:38]<ergonlogic>yeah, hostmaster.make
[02:36:41]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: I don't think there's any risk to just adding it to the makefile, is there?
[02:36:53]<ergonlogic>helmo: the drush search and replace could replace our current deploy mechanism for doing that, presumably
[02:37:19]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: let me check if there's a release
[02:37:51]<ergonlogic>yep, 3.1
[02:38:08]<ergonlogic>let me check if we're ready for a 3.2
[02:39:00]<ergonlogic>yeah, there were a couple fixes
[02:39:16]<ergonlogic>bgm: I'm going to do a 3.2 release of hosting_civicrm
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[02:39:40]<ergonlogic>and add it to the aegir distro
[02:39:53]<gboudrias>yeah seems like the last one was from June (!)
[02:39:58]<ergonlogic>unless anyone has any objections
[02:40:09]<bgm>ergonlogic: ok cool
[02:40:18]<ergonlogic>I need to take some time to revisit the file perms stuff
[02:40:29]<ergonlogic>that's the main problem I see with its usage
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[02:40:34]<ergonlogic>and stale file paths
[02:40:42]<ergonlogic>but not today :-/
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[02:42:03]<ergonlogic>bgm: so... I think I'd need to merge dev/2563241
[02:42:14]<ergonlogic>which is where I merged in the provision code
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[02:44:36]<ergonlogic>but there's no 7.x branch in provision_civicrm...
[02:45:14]<bgm>drush modules aren't drupal-core version-specific :)
[02:45:18]<ergonlogic>I guess the backend changes were minimal
[02:45:21]<ergonlogic>right
[02:46:34]<ergonlogic>I'm going to mark provision_civicrm as deprecated, then, ok?
[02:47:44]<ergonlogic>bgm: ^^^ ?
[02:48:22]<ergonlogic>and put a big note on the hosting_civicrm page and in the rel notes, about the change
[02:49:01]<ergonlogic>since this'd presumably break existing aegir3 installs where provision_civicrm is deployed in ~/.drush
[02:49:24]<ergonlogic>but the fix should just be to remove it from there
[02:49:29]<ergonlogic>afaict
[02:49:53]<bgm>ergonlogic: sure
[02:50:41]<ergonlogic>oh, 7.x-3.x already had that merged
[02:50:47]<ergonlogic>nvm then
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[02:51:48]<gboudrias>hahah
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[03:00:38]<ergonlogic>bgm: what's with the boost docs in hosting_civicrm?
[03:01:26]<bgm>uhm :)
[03:01:45]<bgm>where?
[03:02:39]<ergonlogic>in the README
[03:03:15]<ergonlogic>also, generally d.o-hosted modules don't ship with their own LICENSE.txt, afaik
[03:03:33]<ergonlogic>since GPLv2 is added by the packaging scripts
[03:03:40]<bgm>meh
[03:03:47]<bgm>i put in the AGPL license :)
[03:03:53]<bgm>and i mirror on github
[03:04:27]<ergonlogic>right
[03:04:51]<ergonlogic>actually, this is just due to a merge conflict
[03:04:56]<ergonlogic>the README stuff
[03:05:02]<ergonlogic>anyway, I'll update and push
[03:05:40]<bgm>weird.. i didn't see any boost stuff in there, but anyway.. :)
[03:07:33]<ergonlogic>it's from the provision_civicrm subtree merge, I believe
[03:10:52]<helmo>I just reverted https://www.drupal.org/node/2568643 ...
[03:10:54]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2568643 => Give the last message in the task log the correct drush message type [#2568643] => 11 comments, 1 IRC mention
[03:13:03]<helmo>I'll read up after dinner
[03:29:39]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: are you on hosting_civicrm ?
[03:29:47]<ergonlogic>yes
[03:29:57]<ergonlogic>another 5-10 mins
[03:30:12]<gboudrias>cool
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[03:47:18]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: sorry, took longer than expected
[03:47:23]<ergonlogic>I just committedand pushed
[03:47:29]<ergonlogic>doing a release now
[03:47:36]<gboudrias>awesome
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[03:50:27]<gboudrias>(be back in a minute)
[03:57:54]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: https://www.drupal.org/node/2609354
[03:57:55]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2609354 => Welcome to Drupal.org => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[03:58:18]<ergonlogic>I'm not sure where we do our rel notes anymore
[03:58:34]<ergonlogic>but it'd defnitely be worth noting the inclusion of hosting_civicrm
[03:59:13]<gboudrias>indeed
[03:59:15]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: http://aegir.readthedocs.org/en/3.x/release-notes/3.2-release-notes/
[03:59:30]<gboudrias>We also have to add this to the d.o release node
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[03:59:45]<ergonlogic>right
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[04:00:06]<ergonlogic>ok, the tarball is built
[04:00:12]<gboudrias>By which I mean, last time I did readthedocs -> drupal.org, so it was mostly centralized on readthedocs
[04:00:33]<ergonlogic>ok
[04:00:52]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: You wanna do the honors of adding it to the hostmaster makefile?
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[04:01:01]<ergonlogic>oh, sure
[04:02:54]<gboudrias>I think after that we just have to run release.sh, I can do it, I need the practice
[04:04:25]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: ok, pushed that change
[04:04:50]<ergonlogic>did you update the rel notes, or should I?
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[04:05:15]<gboudrias>Awesome
[04:05:32]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: You should probably do it, I don't know hosting_civicrm that much
[04:05:38]<ergonlogic>ok
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[04:09:27]<gboudrias>I'll make a new eldir release since it's not covered by release.sh
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[04:12:16]<ergonlogic>the paths to the issues are broken in the rel notes
[04:12:25]<ergonlogic>they're all missing 'node/'
[04:12:28]<ergonlogic>fixing it now
[04:14:13]<gboudrias>Yeah I think I'd used some specific drush rn parameters last time, I'll try to find it and add it to the docs
[04:14:34]<gboudrias>Also the core release versions are not pinned anymore so I'll update that right now
[04:22:09]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: While you're in 3.2-release-notes, "Changes since 7.x-3.1" should read "Changes to Provision since 7.x-3.1" (Hostmaster and Hosting are fine)
[04:22:38]<ergonlogic>ok, 2 mins
[04:23:35]<ergonlogic>ok, fixed
[04:23:42]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: all done
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[04:26:13]<gboudrias>awesome, I'll run release.sh
[04:26:45]<ergonlogic>ok, I'm going to grab something to eat, and check back in later
[04:26:51]<ergonlogic>ping me if there's an issue
[04:29:01]<gboudrias>ok will dol
[04:30:13]<gboudrias>whoops, the documentation is outdated, it also does the eldir release
[04:31:54]<gboudrias>I'll just remove that section altogether
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[04:46:58]<gboudrias>okay I pushed the tags
[04:47:54]<gboudrias>Also just noticed Eldir's default branch was still 6.x, changed it to 7.x
[04:49:58]<gboudrias>Actually, P_Aegir_Puppet_Module_functional_test_Aegir3-dev doesn't seem to exist anymore, which job should we use to test the build? functional_test_Aegir3-dev-Drush6 I'm guessing?
[04:50:04]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: helmo: ^
[04:50:13]<gboudrias>(Talking about step 2.5)
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[05:11:50]<gboudrias>I launched the Drush6 puppet test while waiting
[05:12:38]<gboudrias>(Do we still ship with Drush6?)
[05:26:33]<ergonlogic>gboudrias: yes, that test
[05:26:45]<ergonlogic>yes Drush6
[05:26:52]<gboudrias>awesome
[05:27:08]<ergonlogic>we're going to need to make it easy to upgrade to 7 and then 8 too
[05:27:50]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: Seems to have passed, now we just run the official build job?
[05:27:55]<gboudrias>http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/S_aegir-debian-official-3.x/
[05:27:57]<gboudrias>Um
[05:28:07]<gboudrias>that's the build job, this passed: http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/P_Aegir_Puppet_Module_functional_test_Aeg...
[05:30:35]<ergonlogic>ideally, this would pass: Project P_Aegir_Puppet_Module_functional_test_Aegir3-unstable
[05:30:48]<ergonlogic>but there's obviously something wrong with the test
[05:31:16]<ergonlogic>in fact, a test that installs stable, then upgrades to unstable would be usefull too
[05:31:34]<gboudrias>hm ok
[05:31:36]<ergonlogic>presumably 3.2 is in unstable now
[05:32:48]<gboudrias>Not sure, we disabled the debian-test-unstable before pushing the 3.2 tags
[05:33:24]<gboudrias>but I'm guessing aegir-debian-official-3.x puts them in unstable, since there are instructions to move them to stable later in the doc
[05:33:50]<ergonlogic>well, there should be a step where ou build the .debs
[05:33:56]<ergonlogic>and push them, no?
[05:34:17]<ergonlogic>that should put the 3.2 in unstable
[05:34:29]<gboudrias>Yeah I presume that's where S_aegir-debian-official-3.x puts them
[05:34:46]<gboudrias>("Jenkins can build and upload a Debian package for you with the S_aegir-debian-official-3.x job.")
[05:34:48]<ergonlogic>we should disable the auto-build job
[05:34:56]<ergonlogic>hmm, ok
[05:35:30]<ergonlogic>the problem was that it'd create a dev release that reprepro considers more recent
[05:36:23]<gboudrias>ergonlogic: helmo told me he disabled the auto-build in step 2.1, I think we're good for 2.6
[05:36:27]<gboudrias>I mean to run it
[05:36:36]<gboudrias>Unless I'm missing something
[05:36:46]<ergonlogic>I'm sure you've got it under control :)
[05:37:02]<ergonlogic>thanks for taking the lead on these releases
[05:37:13]<ergonlogic>I, for one, really appreciate it
[05:37:37]<gboudrias>No problem, I'm still getting the hang of it but I'll just go ahead and try it :p
[05:39:16]<gboudrias>oh yeah okay there's a parameter for where to put them and the only option is "testing", so that's good
[05:40:07]<gboudrias>all green, that was easy: http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/S_aegir-debian-official-3.x/15/
[05:40:10]<gboudrias>Testing in Vagrant
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[05:46:53]<gboudrias>On the other hand, we won't have to release for Aegir2 past February, so that's cool
[05:48:10]<gboudrias>Version on unstable is good (3.2), testing install
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[05:49:44]<gboudrias>I'll test the 3.1->3.2 upgrade manually instead of step 2.7 (Test the upgrade in Jenkins), because the job is disabled
[05:56:09]<gboudrias>Hmm it doesn't find hostmaster 3.2, I think we have to release the drupal.org nodes
[05:58:22]<gboudrias>Makes sense, since it's actually a pinned version package
[06:04:21]<gboudrias>(I'm running drush rn again to get the drupal HTML formatting)
[06:07:27]<ergonlogic>yes, I'm pretty sure we need the d.o release nodes to test the .debs
[06:11:38]<gboudrias>Did hosting and provision (and Eldir earlier), waiting for the nodes to do hostmaster
[06:15:52]<gboudrias>done: https://www.drupal.org/node/2609500
[06:15:53]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2609500 => Welcome to Drupal.org => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[06:32:24]<gboudrias>I added a manual tests step (2.9) to the release process: http://aegir.readthedocs.org/en/3.x/community/release-process/
[06:32:35]<gboudrias>Thankfully, there was no 2.9 step, so I didn't need to re-number :p
[06:46:22]<gboudrias>Install works, testing upgrade
[06:48:56]<helmo>I think the P_Aegir_Puppet_Module_functional_test_Aegir3-unstable is still failing on the mysql password
[06:52:31]<g7itch_>How do I remove a platfrom from aegir if it no longer exists on the server?
[06:53:09]<helmo>gboudrias: it's nice to add the html changelog to the D.o release node ... but why not just link to the readthedocs page?
[06:53:15]<gboudrias>g7itch_: If you deleted the files manually, you could delete the node manually, though it's not recommended
[06:53:42]<gboudrias>helmo: Hmm good question, I guess I just thought it was the standard way
[06:54:12]<helmo>g7itch_: I think the delete task has a --force option if you use the commandline ... otherwise you could create the platform dir with a cleea drupal core ...
[06:54:38]<gboudrias>yeah that's probably a cleaner way
[06:54:50]<g7itch_>I kind of messed up my install when trying to upgrade to 7.41 :/
[06:55:31]<helmo>gboudrias: it kind of is... but for us it's duplicate work. And a new hostmaster release covers also provision and hosting ... for most users it's just one project
[06:56:08]<gboudrias>helmo: Good point, let's do that in the future. You want to update the release process page?
[06:56:19]<helmo>ok
[06:57:06]<gboudrias>g7itch_: Consider posting on http://ask.aegir.support/questions/ (sorry for the spam, I'm cleaning it up)
[06:57:54]<helmo>about the P_Aegir_Puppet_Module_functional_test_Aegir3-unstable job ... D_aegir3-debian-test-unstable is the working replacement ... without the puppet problem. I'll see if I can add that to the release docs too
[06:58:23]<gboudrias>awesome
[06:58:32]<gboudrias>looks like we'll need some captchas in the askbot
[07:00:20]<gboudrias>(we already have a reCaptcha... darn)
[07:17:20]<gboudrias>Upgrade appears to work, I'm about to publish the debian packages, any objections?
[07:17:24]<gboudrias>helmo: ergonlogic: ^
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[07:24:38]<helmo>gboudrias: I'm not running D_aegir3-debian-test-unstable
[07:25:24]<gboudrias>helmo: So we're good?
[07:25:29]<gboudrias>I just checked and the package lists seem right in unstable
[07:25:41]<gboudrias>(I mean, I also tested so yeah I think we're good)
[07:26:08]<helmo>All looks good so far :)
[07:26:21]<gboudrias>Alright I'm pressing the button
[07:26:31]<gboudrias>(metaphorically)
[07:26:43]<gboudrias>done
[07:27:34]<helmo>Great
[07:27:53]<gboudrias>hmm wait a second
[07:28:33]<gboudrias>helmo: I must have missed a step, I now have 3.1+121.7ac112a in stable
[07:28:57]<gboudrias>Just ran the reprepro commands in 2.10
[07:30:01]<gboudrias>oh wait that might just be my messed up server
[07:30:33]<gboudrias>yeah looks like it, sorry for the mistake, we're good
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[07:31:16]<gboudrias>I guess it's worth one last test before publishing stuff
[07:32:26]<gboudrias>Yep, we're good :)
[07:32:45]<gboudrias>helmo: I don't know if I have the Twitter password or not, would you mind posting the release?
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[07:35:24]<helmo>gboudrias: should be in lastapss but I'll tweet
[07:35:39]<gboudrias>oh right, I keep forgetting
[07:35:41]<gboudrias>But thank you :)
[07:36:04]<helmo>I'm also building an upgrage test for jenkins stable to unstable ... based on the aegir3-deb-unstable-no-puppet test
[07:36:34]<gboudrias>Amazing
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[07:38:22]<gboudrias>^ I removed the link to the issue queues since it was on community, do we point to the Askbot now? (we should replace the other community link as well)
[07:41:57]<helmo>yes the /help link should probably go ... http://aegir.readthedocs.org/en/3.x/help/contact/ is a bit long ... can we link to the index of our docs?
[07:42:23]<gboudrias>Seems simpler, yeah
[07:43:06]<helmo>I'm going to add a link to the issue queue's to the contact page
[07:47:08]<gboudrias>Aww yeah, the stable package now works on Jessie without issues, feels good man!
[07:47:21]<gboudrias>Good idea
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[07:56:27]<gboudrias>Alright we're done here I think, thanks helmo and ergonlogic!
[07:56:37]<gboudrias>I'll close the issue
[07:57:17]<gboudrias>Oh actually I think we have to re-enable the unstable job
[08:11:33]<helmo>I just did ... and added it to the docs
[08:11:52]<gboudrias>helmo: Amazing, thanks!
[08:13:56]<helmo>thanks gboudrias
[08:21:52]<helmo>3.2 to 3.2+152.951c5e3 upgrade is now tested ... http://ci.aegirproject.org/view/Upgrades/job/U_aegir_7.x-3.x-stable-to-u...
[08:23:30]<gboudrias>nice
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