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[04:32:55]<Captain_Haddock>Is there a bugtracker for Aegir?
[04:32:55]<hefring>Captain_Haddock: 1 week 6 days ago <ergonlogic> tell Captain_Haddock you can't install a site on a remote server using the localhost DB server. The reason being that 'localhost' is generally reserved, and will resolve to the loopback address on the same server. So, the site on the remote server is trying to connect to a db server on the same machine. At least, afaict.
[04:33:53]<cweagans>Captain_Haddock: Yeah. drupal.org/project/issues/hosting for issues with the data storage bits for Drupal, drupal.org/project/issues/provision for the Drush extension that does the config management part, drupal.org/project/issues/eldir for the theme, and drupal.org/project/issues/hostmaster for anything that spans multiple projects.
[04:34:34]<Captain_Haddock>hefring: Thanks! I was/am migrating the site from a localhost DB to a remote server DB. It also fails if I use the hostname instead. (Sorry for the late reply.)
[04:34:34]<hefring>de nada
[04:35:17]<Captain_Haddock>cweagans: Thanks. So I guess, I'll check the hostmaster queue.
[04:36:11]<cweagans>Captain_Haddock: hefring is a bot :) ergonlogic (one of the other aegir maintainers) was the one that replied to you via the bot
[04:37:27]<Captain_Haddock>cweagans: Oh dear!
[04:37:36]<Captain_Haddock>heh
[04:38:03]<Captain_Haddock>I suppose I should have made the Norse connection earlier :|
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[06:20:15]<Captain_Haddock>My issue is decidedly odd. I can create a site which uses either database server. These created sites can be verified and then deleted.
[06:20:46]<Captain_Haddock>I can also clone a site and set it to use a different DB server. These sites also verify and delete fine.
[06:21:23]<Captain_Haddock>I can migrate sites between "localhost" and the FQDN of the "localhost" fine as well.
[06:22:16]<Captain_Haddock>The problem only occurs when I try to migrate a site from one server to another. THe migration fails. I can then no longer verify or delete the host site.
[06:22:34]<cweagans>Captain_Haddock: perhaps try migrating your site to a different URL and then cloning it back to the real URL with the right DB server?
[06:22:52]<cweagans>Captain_Haddock: Not a great solution, but would work for moving your sites away from the "localhost" server
[06:23:24]<Captain_Haddock>cweagans: Hmm. Lemme try that!
[06:38:03]<Captain_Haddock>cweagans: Thanks! That looks like it's working.
[06:38:23]<Captain_Haddock>But any idea what could be causing the issue? There obviously is no access issue for Aegir.
[06:38:32]<Captain_Haddock>One of the errors in the log = "The external command could not be executed due to an application error."
[06:38:40]<Captain_Haddock>Any idea what this external command could be?
[06:40:20]<cweagans>I wouldn't be able to tell without digging in and checking it out myself, but I think it can mostly be solved with a documentation change. Basically, "Don't use localhost for *anything*. It's just not a good idea and complicates things for future-you."
[06:41:20]<Captain_Haddock>cweagans: Do you mean don't use "localhost" for anything or don't use *the* localhost for anything?
[06:41:54]<cweagans>"localhost" - as in, don't use "localhost" for the hostname for any services that you'd add through the Aegir UI.
[06:42:08]<cweagans>or through the installer, for that matter.
[06:42:44]<Captain_Haddock>cweagans: I don't. That only came up during testing. (I can migrate from "localhost" to "foo.example.com", the FQDN of the localhost)
[06:43:20]<Captain_Haddock>cweagans: This also fails if I create a site that uses foo.example.com as teh DB server and migrate it to bar.example.com.
[06:43:24]<cweagans>Captain_Haddock: Right. I'm saying don't use "localhost" for the hostname of your db service, for instance.
[06:43:47]<Captain_Haddock>cweagans: I understand. I don't.
[06:44:24]<cweagans>Okay. I must be misunderstanding the problem, then.
[06:44:33]<cweagans>Anyway, gotta focus on day jobby stuff for a while
[06:44:40]<cweagans>Glad things are working
[06:44:59]<Captain_Haddock>cweagans: OK. Thanks for the workaround!
[06:45:26]<Captain_Haddock>FWIW, one of the servers is running Debian Squeeze. I'm wondering if this external command failure is related to that.
[06:45:41]<Captain_Haddock>(The other is running Ubuntu 14.04)
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