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| [03:57:59] | <nico90> | Hi, i´m wondering to use Aegir. I´m starting a new bussines selling websites and platforms but i`m pretty new in drupal i can`t make a deccision between using multi site or Aegir. Wich things i have to value? |
| [03:58:28] | <nico90> | could you help me? |
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| [04:05:35] | <gboudrias> | nico90: Aegir is inherently multi-site |
| [04:05:48] | <gboudrias> | nico90: It uses normal Drupal multi-site platforms |
| [04:06:29] | <nico90> | ok |
| [04:06:30] | <gboudrias> | It manages the vhosts and databases automatically (among other things), so if you have many sites it makes things a lot easier |
| [04:06:33] | <gboudrias> | nico90: ^ |
| [04:06:49] | <nico90> | thanks |
| [04:06:57] | <gboudrias> | No problem |
| [04:07:29] | <nico90> | but i will need bigger hosting resources with aegir? |
| [04:08:59] | <nico90> | they guy thath manage my host say that Aegir doesn`t work very well and i would need to increase my resources |
| [04:09:48] | <anarcat> | i think that's BS, personnally |
| [04:09:59] | <anarcat> | we have put a lot of work in making Aegir-hosted sites faster |
| [04:10:25] | <anarcat> | so unless he has specific metrics to back that up, i would have strong doubts that his concerns are founded |
| [04:10:29] | <nico90> | BS? sorry |
| [04:10:34] | <anarcat> | BullShit, sorry |
| [04:10:41] | <nico90> | ah lol |
| [04:10:51] | <nico90> | sorry, i´m from spain |
| [04:10:57] | <anarcat> | it's alright :) |
| [04:11:12] | <anarcat> | now, if your sysadmin thinks *drupal* and *php* are too slow, that's another thing ;) |
| [04:11:46] | <nico90> | no, he sell specific drupal hosting |
| [04:11:53] | <nico90> | :) |
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| [04:12:36] | <nico90> | i was researching about aegir becaus i think it is wonderfull for me |
| [04:13:28] | <nico90> | bu when i asked him to install it i´m my server, he told me about some security issues and needs |
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| [04:15:04] | <nico90> | the thing is that the process creating a site and updating, cloning is really important for me because the type of bussines. |
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| [04:16:06] | <nico90> | but because i`m starting bigger costs of hostintg are important too |
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| [04:17:39] | <nico90> | i think if we grow we finally need Aegir and it would be a bigger cost to import the sites i have at this moment. Whant do you think? |
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| [04:53:14] | <Captain_Haddock> | nico90: If they're Drupal sites, then there's no realy cost of importing. |
| [04:53:52] | <Captain_Haddock> | real* |
| [04:54:16] | <nico90> | i mean hours of work |
| [04:54:30] | <nico90> | they are complex drupal and open atrium sites |
| [04:55:42] | <Captain_Haddock> | Complex how exactly? |
| [04:56:11] | <Captain_Haddock> | And ugh to Open Atrium. |
| [04:58:25] | <nico90> | so you recommend starting with multisite, and see how it grows? |
| [05:01:00] | <nico90> | we are developing something that its called digital ecosystem of value. It is a new organizative model for companies ecosistems, we have all the management models and we are developing digital platforms with drupal for support the consultancy models |
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| [05:02:42] | <nico90> | it will be like an ecosystem of sites where you can work, research, innovate, manage knowledge, communication... |
| [05:06:02] | <Captain_Haddock> | Cool. But how is your Drupal installation complex? Why do you think importing will require hours of work? |
| [05:06:16] | <Captain_Haddock> | In any case, I'd recommend installing Aegir on a test server and give it a good once over. |
| [05:08:32] | <nico90> | i think it is because drupal it´s not my field and maybe everything seems more difficult for me ;) |
| [05:09:05] | <nico90> | i thoutgh if we have a big and complex site, it would be difficult to import to Aegir |
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| [05:11:25] | <nico90> | i am definitely going to try aegir. you mean contract another host and test it how its work or there is a place where i can test it? Sorry, im really a begginer here... |
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| [05:15:20] | <Captain_Haddock> | nico90: You should just be able to install it on a local box. If you're completely new to all this, then yes, it might be hours of work :) I suggest that you spend time becoming really familiar with Drupal installation and Aegir before messing with production sites. |
| [05:15:59] | <Captain_Haddock> | (And drush too) |
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| [05:18:10] | <nico90> | that what i´m doing, researching. Thanks Captain_Haddock |
| [05:19:11] | <nico90> | last question, any quick guide to install Aegir? |
| [05:20:15] | <nico90> | or the best documentation its in aegir.readthedocs.org |
| [05:22:15] | <Captain_Haddock> | nico90: I believe so. |
| [05:22:20] | <Captain_Haddock> | Good luck :) |
| [05:23:00] | <nico90> | thanks |
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| [05:56:32] | <nico90> | It´s easy to share data base tables in aegir?. For example i want to share users in all of the sites of a platform but not the roles |
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