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| [05:13:48] | <bgm> | wacky cache question: on a plain Aegir 3.x, is there a specific cache/cron task that would flush the cache in a different way than "drush cc all" ? |
| [05:14:23] | <bgm> | context: every morning, something goes missing from my Views (that pull in data/fields from CiviCRM). When I refresh the CiviCRM cache, it fixes the issue. |
| [05:14:32] | <bgm> | but if I "drush cc all", the bug does not occur |
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| [06:02:25] | <cweagans> | . |
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| [06:08:17] | <ergonlogic> | bgm: civicrm_cron, maybe? |
| [06:12:51] | <bgm> | ergonlogic: civicrm_cron launches the "scheduled jobs", but this site I was testing on didn't even have the hourly "cleanup temp data and files" (which I should, but it's not the cause of the issue) |
| [06:14:16] | <bgm> | for now, I setup a nagios/icinga2 check to warn me when the view breaks, so that I have more info on the exact time, which should lead on which cache gets refreshed (i hope) :) |
| [06:14:46] | <bgm> | oddly the only civicrm person who is also having this issue is also running aegir |
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| [06:27:39] | <ergonlogic> | bgm: is it relatively recent? |
| [06:29:50] | <ergonlogic> | do you have scheduled nightly backups or anything? |
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| [06:32:22] | <bgm> | ergonlogic: it's a new site (hosted on aegir 3.4, symbiotic vps), and on another site (hosted at koumbit) we oddly do not have the issue |
| [06:33:15] | <bgm> | problem is, the bug is pretty hard to trigger. The fields just disappear after a day, and if I edit the custom field definition in CiviCRM, click save (which flushes the civi cache, but not drupal iirc), then the View is fixed |
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| [06:35:38] | <bgm> | betwen the Views cache, and CiviCRM cache management, not sure which is worst ;-) |
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| [06:40:50] | <bgm> | I'm almost wondering if it's related to nginx. The koumbit site runs on apache, and the other person also running into the issue also uses nginx |
| [06:41:10] | <bgm> | but I don't see how that would make a difference.. both use APC, and I restarted php-fpm for run, no impact. |
| [06:43:29] | <bgm> | hmm, another site on apache, on our infra, same drupal/views/civicrm versions, not having the issue |
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| [07:00:39] | <gboudrias> | ergonlogic: Trying to join the call |
| [07:01:20] | <helmo_> | gboudrias: I'm in ... it hung at first, but worked after a refresh |
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| [07:02:35] | <bgm> | i think it's asking for permission to participate in the video call |
| [07:03:21] | <colan> | i'm getting the same thing. |
| [07:05:21] | <bgm> | ergonlogic: ^ |
| [07:06:38] | <colan> | my sound works in chrome instead of chromium, so the first bunch of requests can be ignored. |
| [07:08:19] | <gboudrias> | colan: bgm: It's the one in appear.in not google hangouts |
| [07:09:46] | <helmo> | I'm still the only one in https://appear.in/aegir-coop ... |
| [07:10:25] | <helmo> | I just noticed the hangout link in the invite mail ... but that's waiting for some confirmation |
| [07:10:38] | <bgm> | ah, that one seems to work, but I don't hear anyone |
| [07:11:11] | <gboudrias> | helmo: https://appear.in/aegir.coop |
| [07:11:27] | <gboudrias> | Maybe it's not the same url as last time? I don't remember |
| [07:11:35] | <colan> | gboudrias: i'm in there, but the event said google. |
| [07:11:53] | <colan> | anyway, i have both tabs open now. :) |
| [07:11:56] | <bgm> | ah, that one works |
| [07:11:59] | <bgm> | https://appear.in/aegir.coop |
| [07:12:01] | <bgm> | dot, not dash |
| [07:13:46] | <colan> | thanks! |
| [07:14:49] | <anarcat> | OT, but shameless plug: https://anarc.at/blog/2016-03-10-keybase/ |
| [07:14:55] | <anarcat> | and hi everyone :) |
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| [07:18:28] | <bgm> | arg... screen share does not support Firefox.. but Chrome is snafu |
| [07:19:47] | <bgm> | now hearing background noise from someone not speaking |
| [07:25:34] | <colan> | bgm: you can block their sound |
| [07:26:31] | <colan> | that person has no name, so try everyone :) |
| [07:28:16] | <bgm> | oh :) |
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| [07:35:51] | <bgm> | "room is too crowded" |
| [07:36:03] | <bgm> | this site is pretty broken, imho. |
| [07:36:10] | <bgm> | (appear.in) |
| [07:36:12] | <colan> | :) |
| [07:36:32] | <bgm> | and the login thing is really annoying |
| [07:36:38] | <bgm> | (sends an email code every time) |
| [07:36:40] | <colan> | turning off video probably helps. |
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| [07:59:17] | <gboudrias> | ergonlogic: I can't participate in this week's scrum |
| [07:59:23] | <gboudrias> | (Gotta go) |
| [07:59:25] | <gboudrias> | Cheers |
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| [08:49:01] | <cweagans> | Hey ergonlogic |
| [08:49:05] | <cweagans> | So re that deploybot thing |
| [08:49:14] | <cweagans> | I'm looking at a couple different paths |
| [08:50:00] | <cweagans> | One is just building on top of https://factor.io/ -- maybe just slap a nice UI on top of it and call it good. All of the heavy lifting would then be provided by Factor. |
| [08:50:53] | <cweagans> | Another path is to build a frontend to Jenkins - essentially create "Project" nodes in Drupal, then create build jobs underneath that and set up different triggers & behaviors. All of that info would then get pushed to Jenkins, and Jenkins would be responsible for running the jobs, logging output, etc. |
| [08:51:12] | <cweagans> | Another would be to use Drone.io - that's essentially an all-in-one package, but I've run into some issues with it |
| [08:51:36] | <cweagans> | Finally, I was looking at https://github.com/ergonlogic/frigg and that might be another good way to go |
| [08:52:17] | <cweagans> | Essentially, I just want a straightforward way to detect a new commit/tag in a repo (hosted anywhere - not just Github) and perform some action |
| [08:53:20] | <cweagans> | For my case, the primary thing will be receiving webhooks from Github, cloning the repo, running `bundle install`, running `jekyll build`, and then rsync'ing the resulting _site/ contents to a shared hosting account. |
| [08:53:29] | <cweagans> | But eventually, it might be useful to have Aegir or Aegir NG as a target |
| [08:54:07] | <cweagans> | This would be useful to users that may not necessarily need multi-node Kubernetes clusters to run their sites, but they still want nice deployment tools. |
| [08:54:50] | <cweagans> | We could offer it as an open source project + potentially offer a hosted version via the coop to fund other Aegir development. |
| [08:56:52] | <colan> | bgm: ergonlogic mentioned that you had a fork of https://www.drupal.org/project/hosting_services on github somewhere? what's that url & what did you change? |
| [08:57:09] | <colan> | gboudrias: what's the status of the one on d.o? |
| [08:58:32] | <bgm> | colan: https://github.com/coopsymbiotic/hosting_restapi ? |
| [08:58:49] | <bgm> | colan: it's rather crude, and gboudrias has been more active on that front |
| [08:59:32] | <bgm> | colan: you can see it in action here (if it works.. ahem): https://crm.symbiotic.coop/en/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=1&a... |
| [08:59:38] | <colan> | bgm: thanks, so which is more up-to-date then? |
| [09:00:05] | <bgm> | no idea, sorry |
| [09:00:11] | <colan> | (as in, i hope these aren't 2 divergent forks.) |
| [09:00:14] | <colan> | ah, ok. |
| [09:00:29] | <bgm> | we had a use-case, and just scratching our own itch |
| [09:00:49] | <bgm> | I'm not a huge fan of drupal "services" module, and tend to think in more civicrm-model |
| [09:01:04] | <bgm> | then again, the rest model i implemented is kind of wonky.. :) |
| [09:01:31] | <bgm> | I wanted something that works with a simple token auth, easy to poll to get the status of the site in real time, etc |
| [09:01:32] | <colan> | everything i've run into in this space is kinda wonky... |
| [09:01:50] | * colan nods |
| [09:01:50] | <bgm> | we also have provision_symbiotic, which uses the token for post-install setup |
| [09:02:03] | <bgm> | https://github.com/coopsymbiotic/provision_symbiotic |
| [09:02:10] | <bgm> | again, very crude, since this isn't in prod yet |
| [09:02:24] | <bgm> | but when the site finishes post-install, it queries the CRM to get the client information |
| [09:02:52] | <bgm> | we also plan on using that token to do things like let the client run "verify", or possibly "git pull" tasks, without accessing Aegir |
| [09:03:48] | <bgm> | (I don't our clients to access the Aegir UI, since yet another auth to handle, UI to polish, etc) |
| [09:05:07] | <colan> | right, so it's a civicrm solution. |
| [09:05:22] | <ergonlogic> | sorry all, my IRC notifications weren't popping up. Catching up now |
| [09:05:30] | <bgm> | gboudrias had worked on making it more generic |
| [09:05:50] | <colan> | bgm: i'll pick it up with him then. |
| [09:06:15] | <bgm> | imho, civicrm is a good option, if you need to handle billing :) |
| [09:08:35] | <ergonlogic> | just updated the calendar event to remove the google hangout. sorry about the confusion |
| [09:17:27] | <colan> | ergonlogic: would be good to replace it with the appear.in URL. |
| [09:17:34] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: hi! thanks for the thoughtful write-up about keybase.io |
| [09:21:27] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: hey snothing :) |
| [09:22:44] | <ergonlogic> | colan: yeah, it doesn't let me. I did post the appear.in link as the 'location' though... |
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| [09:25:20] | <colan> | thumbs up then :) |
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| [09:55:57] | <ergonlogic> | cweagans: so, I've been thinking of small components that we could stich together. One of the first would be a way to monitor git(hub|lab) repos without specifying a webhook |
| [09:56:05] | <ergonlogic> | using pubsubhubbub, maybe |
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| [09:57:51] | <ergonlogic> | the Feature server I was talkng about, for example, could perhaps monitor the repos you're interested in, and track new tags/releases, for example |
| [09:58:21] | <ergonlogic> | this sort of thing could make Drush Make be able to resolve the latest version for libraries |
| [09:58:36] | <ergonlogic> | just like it does for drupal.org-hosted projects |
| [09:59:07] | <ergonlogic> | or, for that matter, drupal modules and themes hosted on github |
| [09:59:11] | <ergonlogic> | or anything, really |
| [10:03:19] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, my point is that such an updates server would need something that could generate it's own webhooks, essentially |
| [10:03:35] | <ergonlogic> | which sounds llike it'd be in common with your needs |
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