IRC logs for #aegir, 2016-05-13 (GMT)

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[15:36:08]<inteja>I've just lost an aegir site. Tried to migrate and it failed but didn't automatically roll back. Tried restoring backup but that didn't work either - error unknown database.
[15:37:17]<inteja>Tried going back to a staging site which was clone of the lost live site. Thought I'd do a backup first to be extra safe but backup failed on that site with error "Could not back up sites directory for drupal".
[15:38:26]<inteja>I am able to backup & clone other aegir hosted sites, just not these two environments (stage & live) of the one site.
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[15:55:37]<inteja>deleting files in private/temp has now allowed me to backup so am trying clone again
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[16:24:35]<helmo>inteja: so were there files in private/temp that could not be read by Aegir? Running a verify task on the site and platform can sometimes help catch/fix such problems
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[16:25:03]<inteja>yes there were 4 files in there that I deleted
[16:30:21]<inteja>So I think it's this issue that caused a cascade https://www.drupal.org/node/2542236
[16:30:22]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2542236 => Cannot migrate sites: Could not back up sites directory for drupal [#2542236] => 9 comments, 1 IRC mention
[16:30:34]<inteja>snap
[16:31:15]<inteja>so I guess I need t apply this patch to all D7 & 8 platforms https://www.drupal.org/node/2496173
[16:31:16]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2496173 => file_unmanaged_save_data() doesn't clean up its temp files [#2496173] => 10 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[16:39:11]<helmo>yes that might help, please comment in the core issue to help move that along
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[00:10:42]<cableguy>hi
[00:10:42]<hefring>privet
[00:11:02]<cableguy>can you just import your drupal websites with db into aeagir, isntead of installing fresh copy through aegir
[00:11:19]<cableguy>e.g. already a working production site
[00:11:32]<cableguy>any documentation on that
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[02:07:04]<cableguy>hello
[02:07:04]<hefring>eh oh
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[03:10:47]<jonpugh>cableguy: that would be nice, I think I have an issue posted about that somewhere.
[03:13:11]<cableguy>so its not possible
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[03:27:24]<cableguy>i think this is what im looking for
[03:27:24]<cableguy>http://docs.aegirproject.org/en/3.x/usage/sites/importing/
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[03:53:10]<gboudrias>jonpugh: I don't know that the important tag makes sense, that's what "PriorityÃ" is for
[03:53:33]<gboudrias>jonpugh: Also most issues are important to someone, otherwise they wouldn't take the time to create them
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[04:02:11]<jonpugh>Yeah, I wasn't sure... Calling everything "major" doesn't seem right either
[04:03:09]<jonpugh>Maybe important isn't the right word, but I think there are things out there we need to address... Not this second, but soon.
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[04:05:41]<gboudrias>jonpugh: Usability? UX?
[04:05:59]<gboudrias>I just think important is subjective and therefore not very useful
[04:06:07]<gboudrias>(As a tag)
[04:07:15]<gboudrias>(the scheduled tasks issue would be pretty cool though)
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[04:28:20]<jonpugh>Cool, I'll come up with something more self explanatory...
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[06:30:02]<jonpugh>There was a really great response to the Aegir tshirts at DrupalCon...
[06:30:19]<jonpugh>I had a ton of conversations, almost everyone I met had heard of aegir and most had used it at one point.
[06:30:55]<jonpugh>It was fun to explain "yes, aegir is still around" ;)
[06:31:11]<jonpugh>We really should get a aegir.coop blog going, and get it on planet drupal.
[06:31:38]<jonpugh>People are pretty excited about the coop and growing the community.
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[06:33:06]<gusaus>were there any aegir sessions i can watch?
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[06:37:06]<gboudrias>jonpugh: Nice
[06:37:37]<jonpugh>nope, no sessions
[06:38:02]<jonpugh>we had a good BoF though, probably about 12 people total... many university people.
[06:38:30]<jonpugh>it was mostly me spreading the word about he Coop and growing the community.
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[06:44:19]<gusaus>cool
[06:44:57]<gusaus>is there a site that describes what the Coop is about? where do you direct people?
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[06:54:48]<colan>gusaus: http://coop.aegirproject.org/
[06:56:00]<colan>i think that'll eventually become aegir.coop
[06:57:44]<gusaus>colan: thanks - come to think of it, i think gboudrias might have sent that to me before
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[07:45:47]<ergonlogic>gusaus: we'll be putting together a site that descibes the Coop more in the coming weeks
[07:46:15]<ergonlogic>as far as the services go, this should give you a good overview: bit.do/aegir-support
[07:46:24]<ergonlogic>http://bit.do/aegir-support
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[07:49:48]<gusaus>ergonlogic: interesting - hadn’t see that - so those are standard services provided by coop members?
[07:58:24]<ergonlogic>the members would be subcontracted to provide those services, essentially
[07:58:58]<ergonlogic>the support services would be offered by the coop itself
[07:59:42]<ergonlogic>so we'd all participate in providing the support, but also in assuring the quality of the support, timeliness, etc.
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[08:12:31]<gboudrias>colan: Thanks for the docs, they seem very thorough!
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[08:22:17]<gusaus>nice
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[08:23:25]<gusaus>ergonlogic: so the coop will be supporting a standard set of distros?
[08:24:44]<ergonlogic>gusaus: the support is geared towards the Aegir distro, which now includes a number of popular Aegir contrib modules
[08:25:54]<ergonlogic>At this point, we aren't really intending to support any particular set of distros to be hosted on Aegir
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[08:28:35]<gusaus>ok - so it’s more of way to support the thing that can host the 1 or 2 good drupal distros
[08:31:34]<gusaus>this was a really interesting drupalcon session https://events.drupal.org/neworleans2016/sessions/selling-drupal-modules
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[08:42:05]<ergonlogic>gusaus: well, the published distros are certainly possible targets, but we intend to support Aegir more generally. So custom distributions, sites, etc.
[08:45:47]<gusaus>ok - so pretty similar to how i’m using aegir now - but it’s going to keep improving!
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