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| [00:48:39] | * colan just upvoted the aegir answer over at http://drupal.stackexchange.com/a/165065/2089 |
| [00:55:13] | <colan> | maybe we can steal code from this DRD thing. :) |
| [00:56:19] | <colan> | https://www.drupal.org/files/project-images/2012-08-22_1739.png |
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| [02:43:04] | <cweagans> | seen ergonlogic |
| [02:43:04] | <hefring> | ergonlogic was last seen in #aegir 2 days 18 hours ago saying 'gusaus: well, the published distros are certainly possible targets, but we intend to support Aegir more generally. So custom distributions, sites, etc.'. |
| [02:43:55] | <cweagans> | hefring: tell ergonlogic when you have a sec, can you ping me re the aegir coop? |
| [02:43:55] | <hefring> | cweagans: I'll pass that on when ergonlogic is around. |
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| [03:49:40] | <mstenta> | cweagans: what is the aegir coop? |
| [03:51:27] | <viashimo> | http://coop.aegirproject.org/ |
| [03:55:07] | <ergonlogic> | mstenta: The Aegir Cooperative is a new organization that we're forming to provide "vendor" support for Aegir |
| [03:55:07] | <hefring> | ergonlogic: 1 hour 11 min ago <cweagans> tell ergonlogic when you have a sec, can you ping me re the aegir coop? |
| [03:55:44] | <ergonlogic> | most of the core team, along with a number of active community contributors are involved |
| [03:56:35] | <ergonlogic> | here's a basic run-down of the services we're looking to provide initially: http://bit.do/aegir-support |
| [04:00:56] | <mstenta> | ergonlogic: awesome |
| [04:01:02] | <mstenta> | sounds like a great idea |
| [04:02:12] | <ergonlogic> | mstenta: I can't take credit :) Richard Stallman suggested it |
| [04:03:05] | <mstenta> | ergonlogic: suggested it to the aegir community specifically? or as a general suggestion for communities like this? |
| [04:03:16] | <ergonlogic> | to the Aegir community |
| [04:03:26] | <mstenta> | wow awesome! :-) |
| [04:03:28] | <ergonlogic> | we invited him to the Aegir Summit in NYC last year |
| [04:03:33] | <mstenta> | very cool! |
| [04:03:37] | <ergonlogic> | and we discussed it at some length |
| [04:03:42] | <ergonlogic> | agreed :) |
| [04:03:46] | <mstenta> | it's a very neat model |
| [04:04:37] | <ergonlogic> | we'll be building out a web presence and more detailed docs over the coming weeks and months |
| [04:04:42] | <ergonlogic> | so stay tuned :) |
| [04:05:48] | <mstenta> | i will! |
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| [04:46:52] | <bgm> | sorry for the FAQ: i have a user who wants access to their backups. besides backup_migrate, are there alternatives with aegir? |
| [05:17:41] | <viashimo> | bgm: I think there was some way to see backups through the interface, but I don't recall which module supplies that tab on the site node |
| [05:19:17] | <bgm> | viashimo: yeah, although I guess I should specify: I don't want to give them access to Aegir either :) |
| [05:19:35] | <bgm> | I was thinking of maybe a module in their site that would give them access to their backup |
| [05:20:42] | <bgm> | but maybe I should just make backup_migrate work. for some reason, it didn't want to save my settings properly.. feels clunky and insecure |
| [05:21:40] | <viashimo> | bgm, ah okay. I've not seen anything like that myself. Also, I think the /var/aegir/backups isn't normally readable by www-data so you might have to change that, or find a way of queueing a task to copy / link the file into privates/files |
| [05:22:07] | <bgm> | yep, many signs that I am probably thinking of things I shouldn't be doing ;) |
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| [05:31:05] | <mstenta> | bgm: yea, you would probably be best off keeping backup and migrate, and maybe find a way to expose that for them |
| [05:31:30] | <mstenta> | bgm: but be sure to consider the risks... make sure everything that's stored in the database is ok to be shared |
| [05:31:59] | <mstenta> | not sure if B&M has granular permissions for allowing them to download backups without being able to restore them... |
| [05:32:16] | <mstenta> | but you may be able to write a custom module to just give them a link to the most recent, or something like that |
| [05:32:26] | <mstenta> | depends on what you need |
| [05:35:54] | <bgm> | hehe, accidental backup restoration.. that would be chaos indeed (and a security issue, since we don't let them play with permissions/super-admin) |
| [05:36:45] | <mstenta> | yea - it starts to beg the question: do they really need access to the backups in the first place? |
| [05:37:34] | <bgm> | imho any service should let users download an archive of their data on demand |
| [05:38:27] | <bgm> | I can understand them not fully trusting the service provider. I've been helping out this org, but they have a huge tech debt. |
| [05:39:16] | <mstenta> | yea, i agree |
| [05:41:01] | <mstenta> | maybe you could write a module that builds it on-demand, but uses B&M in the background |
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| [06:17:18] | <ergonlogic> | bgm: the backup manager feature will make a temporary download link available, iirc |
| [06:25:19] | <bgm> | ergonlogic: interesting, will look at the code, thanks |
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