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[22:48:40]<a_ok>If I do a drush hostmaster-uninstall && drush hostmaster-install will I be able to import the existing platforms?
[22:50:43]<ergonlogic>you'll lose your task history, certain site-specifics (e.g., clients, aliases, etc.), backup mapping, etc.
[22:50:50]<ergonlogic>it's pretty drastic
[22:51:19]<mstenta>a_ok: yea what would be the reason for doing that? something broken?
[22:53:01]<a_ok>mstenta: Mostly because I want to move the database to another server. And it has been upgrade upon upgrade so a fresh start would not hurt.
[22:54:30]<a_ok>I was hoping that hostmaster could import from the alias files
[22:59:05]<a_ok>ergonlogic: drush @hostmaster hosting-import @contextname; Should work in theory or am I way out of line here?
[22:59:18]<ergonlogic>yep, for many things
[22:59:36]<ergonlogic>but not the ones I mentioned above (clients, etc.)
[22:59:42]<ergonlogic>aliases, maybe, I don't recall
[23:00:12]<a_ok>ergonlogic: what are clients?
[23:00:24]<ergonlogic>I just read through the hostmaster-migrate code, and it looks like we hardcode the db_server to be '@server_master'
[23:00:30]<ergonlogic>which is silly
[23:00:55]<ergonlogic>clients are user groups that allow for our access-control and quotas
[23:00:56]<a_ok>ergonlogic: yeah that was indeed my problem
[23:01:21]<a_ok>Ah that is no problem here :-)
[23:01:24]<ergonlogic>it shouldn't be too hard to fix that
[23:01:32]<a_ok>indeed
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[23:01:50]<ergonlogic>if you're willing to test it, I can take a crack :)
[23:04:13]<ergonlogic>it doesn't make sense to support 'aegir_db_host' during install, if we cannot then maintain use of that db server across upgrades
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[23:10:54]<a_ok>ergonlogic: I'm willing to test it. Im creating a snapshot right now.
[23:11:16]<ergonlogic>ok
[23:11:22]<ergonlogic>I'll write up an issue now
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[23:12:29]<ergonlogic>but it'll probably take me a couple hours, considering that I need to set up a couple servers, install aegir on one, migrate it, so it uses the other as db server, then migrate again, to make sure it stays on the remote db server, etc.
[23:14:42]<a_ok>yes this typically seems an easy to code hard to test situation.
[23:18:40]<ergonlogic>https://www.drupal.org/node/2729279
[23:18:41]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2729279 => Support @hostmaster running on remote DB server [#2729279] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[23:19:04]<ergonlogic>a_ok: please give some thought to how this might fail, and put any thoughts in that issue
[23:19:28]<ergonlogic>also, did I miss any requirements/functionality?
[23:22:16]<ergonlogic>ok... I'll need more coffee for this. Back in a few
[23:24:07]<a_ok>ergonlogic: Nope this seems to cover the functionality brilliantly.
[23:33:39]<mstenta>three cheers for coffee :-)
[23:49:22]<a_ok>ergonlogic: At first I thought add this option to the update.sh script but you should definatly not do that. I am also wondering what needs to be changed in the debian package. On a new installation we should be able to pick a database server. On an upgrate we should keep things the same as much as we can. Migrating to another database server is a separate case (But should be straightforward to do).
[23:52:07]<ergonlogic>I'd need to review update.sh, but it shouldn't require anything to maintain the current setup, once hostmaster-migrate supports remove dbs, of course
[23:52:59]<ergonlogic>the Debian package supports a remote db host option, so the upgrade should probably also support it
[23:53:18]<ergonlogic>but again, almost all the logic will be in hostmaster-migrate
[23:53:32]<ergonlogic>which the Debian package already calls, iirc
[23:56:27]<a_ok>yes that makes sense
[00:00:46]<a_ok>ergonlogic: I will be going home at some point but will come back when i'm home.
[00:02:38]<ergonlogic>sure thing
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[00:26:19]<a_ok>ergonlogic: Only the issue I posted in the comment comes to mind. Relocating to a different database server (assuming same database technology) is one of the easiest operations in Drupal, so I'm done shooting holes in it. Let me know if you need something.
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[00:27:51]<colan>gboudrias: i added a to the hosting_services project page about releases: https://www.drupal.org/node/1185614/revisions/view/9675069/9693411
[00:27:52]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/1185614 => Aegir Services => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[00:36:11]<a_ok>colan: Can this also be used to add and remove servers? That would be greath for autoscaling groups
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[00:47:54]<gboudrias>colan: Cool
[00:49:36]<a_ok>Indeed a Cool addition
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[01:05:47]<colan>fyi: https://github.com/drush-ops/drush/issues/2177
[01:06:40]<colan>Drush deb may get pulled out of Debian/Drush unless someone steps up to take it over.
[01:08:53]<anarcat>"may"... it has been pulled out already
[01:08:59]<anarcat>it was freaking drush 5
[01:14:41]<colan>anarcat: well, anyway, thanks for supporting that when you were. :)
[01:14:50]<anarcat>hey no problem :)
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[04:39:34]<helmo>ergonlogic: bgm I just pushed a new release for all the golden contrib modules... except hosting_civicrm ... Where I don't have access.
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[04:40:05]<helmo>If one of you could fix that the it can be included in the hostmaster 3.5 release.
[04:41:22]<bgm>helmo: what do i need to do? give you maintainer access?
[04:42:00]<bgm>do i need to tag a release?
[04:42:40]<bgm>(added you as maintainer)
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[04:43:44]<helmo>bgm: both would be OK
[04:44:00]<helmo>Any final commits you'd like to get in?
[04:44:07]<bgm>yep, 2 mins ;-)
[04:44:14]<helmo>ok
[04:44:15]<bgm>might want to get this one in: https://www.drupal.org/node/2725501
[04:44:16]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2725501 => CiviCRM 4.6 to 4.7: template_c/[locale] does not exist [#2725501] => 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[04:45:51]<bgm>done
[04:47:05]<bgm>helmo: tagged with 7.x-3.5
[04:47:58]<gboudrias>bgm: Sorry, didn't have time to test the issue, but it seems fine
[04:48:20]<gboudrias>We'll see in staging if there's a problem I guess
[04:48:48]<bgm>it was more broken before, so it shouldn't hurt :)
[04:50:20]<gboudrias>heh, yeah
[04:50:29]<omega8cc>helmo: sorry for the last minute commits! I hope I didn’t break anything
[05:03:50]<helmo>bgm: thanks
[05:04:05]<ergonlogic>hey all, I'm right in the middle of https://www.drupal.org/node/2729279. What about skipping the coop mtg today?
[05:04:06]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2729279 => Support @hostmaster running on remote DB server [#2729279] => 5 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[05:04:21]<ergonlogic>it looks like the rest of you are working on aegir stuff too
[05:04:34]<helmo>omega8cc: no worries
[05:07:56]<helmo>ergonlogic: OK, skipping
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[05:17:22]<helmo>bgm: I've created the release node https://www.drupal.org/project/hosting_civicrm/releases/7.x-3.5
[05:17:50]<bgm>helmo: cool, thanks!
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[05:58:19]<helmo>Building the hostmaster profile on D.o is stuck at the moment ... drumm is looking into it.
[06:03:37]<gboudrias>helmo: ergonlogic: Is there a scrum today?
[06:05:54]<helmo>gboudrias: yes ... I was distracted
[06:06:22]<helmo>gboudrias: https://appear.in/aegir
[06:38:24]<helmo>ergonlogic: Did you sent the first t-shirst?
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[07:21:36]<ergonlogic>helmo: ugh, no. sorry. I'll get them out tomorrow
[07:22:23]<ergonlogic>helmo: on a positive note, I believe that I've fixed the recursion/variant issue
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[07:32:08]<helmo>ergonlogic: yay ...
[07:33:23]<helmo>ergonlogic: drumm is still working on https://www.drupal.org/project/hostmaster/releases/7.x-3.5 ... he hopes to have it working soon. (#drupal-infrastructure)
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[07:36:21]<ergonlogic>yeah, I'd been lurking in there
[07:36:40]<ergonlogic>helmo: it is just waiting on the 3.5 release nodes?
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