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| [00:28:52] | <jonpugh> | colan: gboudrias: I have hostmaster repository tests passing on travis |
| [00:28:52] | <hefring> | jonpugh: 3 days 7 hours ago <realityloop> tell jonpugh is Devshop working with D8 now? (is it ready for use in production is what I'm essentially asking).. |
| [00:28:56] | <jonpugh> | https://github.com/aegir-project/hostmaster/pull/1 |
| [00:29:09] | <jonpugh> | Oh IRC... |
| [00:29:24] | <jonpugh> | lol, everyone is offline |
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| [00:34:10] | <colan> | jonpugh: it's still early somewhere in the world :) |
| [00:45:35] | <jonpugh> | I'm more complaining about IRC than people's schedules ;) |
| [00:45:52] | <jonpugh> | I really just want to leave a message like I can in gitter, slack, hipchat, just about every other chat service ... ;) |
| [00:46:06] | <anarcat> | jonpugh: there's a bot for that |
| [00:46:13] | <anarcat> | but yeah, IRC is definitely not hip |
| [00:46:25] | <anarcat> | and both colan and gboudrias are online |
| [00:48:31] | <jonpugh> | yeah, gotta love hefring but it's a bit tedious ;) |
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| [00:52:19] | <colan> | anarcat: jonpugh: i'm always on-line as i'm running tmux + irssi-email-mentions :) |
| [00:53:37] | <anarcat> | eh |
| [00:53:43] | <colan> | i'd be down for using mattermost though :) |
| [00:53:46] | <anarcat> | so 1980 |
| [00:53:48] | <anarcat> | so tedious |
| [00:53:52] | <anarcat> | so open |
| [00:53:54] | <anarcat> | so not hipster |
| [00:54:02] | <jonpugh> | irccloud.com for me :) |
| [00:54:51] | <jonpugh> | colan: mattermost is great, but another thing to maintain. Have you seen http://gitter.im/opendevshop/devshop |
| [00:55:13] | <jonpugh> | a lot of projects use gitter now, drupalconsole, grav |
| [00:55:21] | <jonpugh> | i've had great success with it for devshop |
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| [00:55:58] | <jonpugh> | and it's 100% free and has all the github integration needed built right in. |
| [00:55:59] | <anarcat> | i have had good experience with matrix.org for offloading the responsability of being permanently connected to irc |
| [00:56:12] | <anarcat> | like slack and others however, it does take your privacy and shove it in the usual wastebin |
| [00:56:28] | <jonpugh> | anarcat: I didn't realize that worked with IRC |
| [00:56:58] | <anarcat> | it does! |
| [00:57:08] | <anarcat> | it's a bit clunky, but they're working on it |
| [00:57:13] | <anarcat> | they also want to bridge with slack |
| [00:57:20] | <anarcat> | but i fully expect slack to kickback on that |
| [00:57:29] | <anarcat> | so they keep their little silo all pristine and clean |
| [00:57:42] | <anarcat> | free of all this freedom that used to be on the internet |
| [00:57:50] | <anarcat> | sorry for the ranting, but i can't stand slack :p |
| [00:58:01] | <jonpugh> | Yeah, I'm not a fan either |
| [00:58:18] | <jonpugh> | that's why I like http://gitter.im, they are at least slightly more open, way more free |
| [00:58:57] | <anarcat> | how are they more open? |
| [00:59:09] | <jonpugh> | available and accessible, i should say :) |
| [00:59:13] | <jonpugh> | https://gitter.im/opendevshop/devshop/archives/2015/03/14 |
| [00:59:44] | <jonpugh> | login with github or twitter, one account for the whole system, logs are available on the internet so supposedly they are indexed in google. |
| [01:00:07] | <jonpugh> | they have IRC bridge |
| [01:00:24] | <jonpugh> | you can log into gitter via any IRC client |
| [01:00:55] | <jonpugh> | I think most of their components are open source... https://github.com/gitterHQ |
| [01:02:06] | <jonpugh> | So i guess they may not be 100% open source but they do a lot to support open source projects with free chat rooms, a great mobile app, IRC integration, etc. |
| [01:04:23] | <anarcat> | it's still a proprietary silo :p |
| [01:04:27] | * anarcat grml |
| [01:05:41] | <jonpugh> | anarcat: proprietary, yes. Silo? You can get your messages out via API :) |
| [01:06:00] | <colan> | anarcat: jonpugh: i guess a hosted matrix or mattermost would be a good compromise in that you could start running them yourself if you really wanted to. |
| [01:06:30] | <colan> | data_portability++ |
| [01:07:46] | <jonpugh> | I'm just concerned about self-hosted because our expertise is in hosting websites, not chat apps :) |
| [01:08:28] | <jonpugh> | There is something to say about convenience :) |
| [01:08:43] | <jonpugh> | For example, because there is a github org, there's already a chat room for aegir on gitter |
| [01:08:44] | <jonpugh> | https://gitter.im/aegir-project |
| [01:09:08] | <anarcat> | it's a silo, because it's yet another non-standard API |
| [01:09:18] | <colan> | jonpugh: yes, that's why i want to pay someone to host it for me, but if they start doing stuff i don't like, i can get my data out and go elsewhere. |
| [01:09:24] | <anarcat> | and it's a silo because it's proprietary software, there's no concept of federation, afaik |
| [01:09:55] | <jonpugh> | Ok, Silo then :) |
| [01:09:58] | <anarcat> | so while you can get your data out of there, it just allows you to do that, not really interoperate and set your own policies |
| [01:10:00] | <jonpugh> | At least it's not a prison :D |
| [01:10:07] | * anarcat shrugs |
| [01:10:44] | * jonpugh wonders why IRC itself can't develop some new features |
| [01:12:33] | <colan> | anarcat: are there any good matrix servers one can pay to use? |
| [01:14:11] | <colan> | jonpugh: here's a good article on that: https://whispersystems.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/ |
| [01:15:09] | <anarcat> | colan: ... why would you want to pay?? |
| [01:15:16] | <anarcat> | jonpugh: it is, actually, doing exactly that |
| [01:15:51] | <anarcat> | jonpugh: *one* reason is that people prefer to write their own JSON/HTTP APIs that extending existing protocols |
| [01:16:08] | <anarcat> | i mean people made XMPP which already deals with all of this and more, and no one seems to care |
| [01:16:12] | <anarcat> | http://ircv3.net/ |
| [01:16:24] | <colan> | anarcat: well, i don't, but sometimes you don't get the useful features without it. free options are good too :) |
| [01:16:29] | <anarcat> | colan: that blog post is kind of horrible |
| [01:16:53] | <anarcat> | written by one of the biggest silo-makers |
| [01:16:59] | <anarcat> | try to make slack talk with signal |
| [01:17:03] | <anarcat> | that's going to be lots of fun |
| [01:17:07] | <colan> | if irccloud were open source though, wouldn't that be better? |
| [01:17:45] | <colan> | yes, though, federation is ideal. |
| [01:18:59] | <colan> | i suppose he's justifying his business model as everyone's paying him to incorporate his library into their closed products. |
| [01:19:01] | <anarcat> | notice that irccloud is participating in the ircv3 drafting process |
| [01:19:28] | * colan didn't know about that & goes to take a look. |
| [01:20:24] | <anarcat> | anyways |
| [01:20:32] | <anarcat> | it's kind of hilarious to see all that stuff pop up |
| [01:20:34] | <anarcat> | it reminds me of ICQ |
| [01:20:37] | <anarcat> | remember that? |
| [01:20:42] | <anarcat> | or AIM |
| [01:20:43] | <anarcat> | or MSN |
| [01:20:48] | <anarcat> | all silos. |
| [01:20:49] | <anarcat> | all dead. |
| [01:20:54] | <colan> | i hope that ircv3 goes somewhere unlike xmpp then. |
| [01:21:07] | <anarcat> | i wish the best of luck to slack, glitter, signal and all the others |
| [01:21:18] | <anarcat> | colan: xmpp is alive and well, actually |
| [01:21:25] | <anarcat> | there are nice android clients too |
| [01:21:32] | <anarcat> | i'm using it on a daily basis |
| [01:21:52] | <anarcat> | i feel the only thing missing there right now is a phone number bridge and signal-like crypto |
| [01:21:58] | <anarcat> | which is not so far away |
| [01:22:00] | <anarcat> | anyways |
| [01:22:02] | <anarcat> | totally off topic here |
| [01:22:17] | <anarcat> | you guys do what you want with this channel, it's not my business anymore :) |
| [01:22:18] | <colan> | anarcat: i've got xabber, but that's mostly to talk to folks on google talk. :) |
| [01:22:28] | <anarcat> | don't get me started on google :p |
| [01:22:38] | <anarcat> | we'll be here for another 2 hours :p |
| [01:23:03] | <colan> | anarcat: heh. if you've got another channel to discuss this stuff, let me know. ;) |
| [01:23:16] | <anarcat> | eh |
| [01:23:20] | <anarcat> | well i don't mind talking about it here |
| [01:26:24] | <jonpugh> | colan: Aegir coop needs a big docker server with Rancher on it. Makes it really easy to spin up most anything, including mattermost |
| [01:26:56] | <jonpugh> | I've got the basics in place to get aegir launching drupal on docker containers. Once we have that we can be much more confident in hosting our own |
| [01:27:12] | <jonpugh> | I think mattermost is still lacking features, though, last time I tried it. |
| [01:27:19] | <anarcat> | Rancher? |
| [01:27:37] | <anarcat> | i agree that spending time hosting non-core services should be avoided here |
| [01:27:42] | <anarcat> | there's plenty of people doing that for us |
| [01:27:49] | <colan> | jonpugh: the thing is, i'm moving away from running my own stuff. i think the org should do the same thing. focus on the core business, outsource everthing else. |
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| [01:28:22] | <colan> | too many distractions otherwise. that's why i was suggesting we use gitlab.com instead of running atrium. |
| [01:28:51] | * anarcat agrees |
| [01:28:59] | <anarcat> | focus on free software of course, as possible |
| [01:29:08] | <anarcat> | i believe this irc channel has a long history and should be retained |
| [01:29:17] | <colan> | anarcat: yes, of course. i mentioned that before. |
| [01:29:23] | <anarcat> | and web irc gateways should be favored over proprietary alternatives |
| [01:29:25] | <anarcat> | but that's just me |
| [01:29:47] | <jonpugh> | In principle, I agree. In practicality, as a Coop, I don't think we can't confidently say we are offering SLA level support unless we can actually host our own stuff. |
| [01:30:02] | <jonpugh> | so it should be a goal, at least |
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| [01:30:16] | <jonpugh> | during bootstrapping phase, it makes sense to offload as much as possible |
| [01:30:19] | <colan> | jonpugh: there's a difference between being able to do it, and actually doing it. |
| [01:30:33] | <jonpugh> | Right, I'm saying we as aegir coop need to actually do it. :) |
| [01:30:39] | <jonpugh> | Meaning host websites and services. |
| [01:31:20] | <anarcat> | for real time support, freenode is amazingly stable |
| [01:31:26] | <anarcat> | i don't know if you'll be able to beat that |
| [01:31:45] | <anarcat> | hosting websites is one thing |
| [01:31:52] | <jonpugh> | I would stay on IRC if we just made it a requirement for Coop members to setup an always-online service. |
| [01:31:56] | <anarcat> | hosting real time chat services and email is a whole different beast |
| [01:32:03] | <anarcat> | jonpugh: that sounds easy enough |
| [01:32:05] | <jonpugh> | It's frustrating to come to the room to get opinions of the leads and they are not available. |
| [01:32:18] | <anarcat> | you'll get that regardless of the technology you use |
| [01:32:24] | <anarcat> | it's an asynchronous system |
| [01:32:37] | <jonpugh> | well, good ones notify you if you are mentioned |
| [01:32:38] | <colan> | jonpugh: i guess i don't see the value add. i *can* run my own open source mail stack, but i'd rather get https://25mail.st/ to do it for me for free/cheap so i can focus on stuff i really want to focus on. |
| [01:32:40] | <jonpugh> | Like irccloud ;) |
| [01:32:49] | <anarcat> | right |
| [01:32:49] | <jonpugh> | I get a notification on my phone anytime anyone mentions me in any room |
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| [01:32:59] | <jonpugh> | one touch and I'm in the chat. |
| [01:33:05] | <anarcat> | jonpugh: i get that with a regular irc client on android as well :p |
| [01:33:16] | <jonpugh> | yeah! |
| [01:33:21] | <jonpugh> | good enough, i'd say :) |
| [01:34:01] | <colan> | jonpugh: so what i'm saying is that our core biz is support. so let's focus on that & not running web sites/services that can be trivially handled by others. |
| [01:34:10] | <jonpugh> | I guess It's the combination of android and web client that won me over for IRCcloud |
| [01:34:36] | <jonpugh> | So are you saying we should put aegir.coop on pantheon? :) |
| [01:35:01] | <anarcat> | ha! |
| [01:35:04] | <anarcat> | free software dude |
| [01:35:14] | <anarcat> | pantheon isn't free software is it |
| [01:35:15] | <jonpugh> | "trivially handled by others." |
| [01:35:22] | <jonpugh> | lol |
| [01:35:28] | <colan> | jonpugh: i seriously wouldn't have a problem with it if the license were open. |
| [01:35:28] | <anarcat> | it would make sense for aegir.coop to self host their own website |
| [01:35:38] | <jonpugh> | yeah, i think we kind of have to |
| [01:35:46] | <colan> | ok, so let me rephrase... |
| [01:35:51] | <jonpugh> | if we don't use our own product, then there's something seriously wrong with our product |
| [01:35:56] | <jonpugh> | or at least that is the appearance |
| [01:36:03] | <jonpugh> | i use devshop to host all my own websites. |
| [01:36:04] | <colan> | has to be open. |
| [01:36:15] | <colan> | so, we could host it on omega8.cc |
| [01:36:48] | <jonpugh> | no comment |
| [01:37:09] | <colan> | for example. point is, something with an open license. |
| [01:37:24] | <colan> | so issue trackers on gitlab, not github. |
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| [01:38:24] | <colan> | should be able to move between running it yourself and getting someone else to do it for you, without losing data. |
| [01:38:46] | <jonpugh> | these things need to be voted on. It's going to be a balance between ease of use and ease of onboarding new developers. |
| [01:38:59] | <colan> | agreed. |
| [01:39:25] | <jonpugh> | I've gotten docker images and tests running with purely open source code |
| [01:39:51] | <jonpugh> | but to get them running automatically with as little effort or maintenance as possible, I am putting it up on github and travis. |
| [01:40:09] | <jonpugh> | I've only spent a little bit of time with GitLabCI but it's a bit daunting |
| [01:40:27] | * anarcat has been impressed by the progress on gitlab |
| [01:40:35] | <anarcat> | everytime i go back there, some new thing is fixed |
| [01:40:41] | <anarcat> | it's still lagging a little, but not by much |
| [01:40:50] | <anarcat> | CI is certainly not up to travis' standards |
| [01:41:02] | <anarcat> | i wonder if travis could be coupled with gitlab |
| [01:41:10] | <colan> | that project has been incredible as they're surpassing github in terms of functionality now. |
| [01:41:11] | <anarcat> | silos, silos... |
| [01:41:19] | <anarcat> | yeah, it's pretty impressive |
| [01:41:27] | <anarcat> | they were having some reliability problems on the main site though |
| [01:41:30] | <anarcat> | dunno if that improved |
| [01:41:48] | <jonpugh> | that's what I mean. |
| [01:41:51] | <jonpugh> | github user base is much larger |
| [01:42:08] | <colan> | their policy is: we don't want to work on this feature, but we'll accept merge requests |
| [01:42:17] | <colan> | so anythign's possible. |
| [01:42:29] | <jonpugh> | right but we have to balance that with what we can do right now. |
| [01:42:48] | <jonpugh> | See https://github.com/aegir-project/hostmaster/pulls |
| [01:43:11] | <colan> | sure, makes sense. i'm not saying ditch github, just that i'm betting on gitlab in the long run. |
| [01:43:27] | <anarcat> | interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_source_code_hosting_faciliti... |
| [01:43:34] | <colan> | i'm still using github, but putting new projects on gitlab. |
| [01:43:53] | <jonpugh> | wow |
| [01:44:20] | <jonpugh> | GitHub 14,000,000[55] |
| [01:44:20] | <jonpugh> | GitLab 20,000[57] |
| [01:44:52] | <anarcat> | hmm... the gitlab numbers are from 2011 |
| [01:45:28] | <colan> | i would be that the gitlab rate of growth is higher than github. |
| [01:45:34] | <anarcat> | hahaha... startpage "corrects" "how many users on gitlab" to "how many users on github" |
| [01:46:19] | <colan> | https://about.gitlab.com/2016/02/11/gitlab-retrospective/ |
| [01:47:32] | <colan> | so ~550K projects. |
| [01:47:51] | <colan> | and that was 6 months ago :) |
| [01:47:52] | <anarcat> | doesn't seem to say how many users |
| [01:48:02] | <roycroft> | hi folks |
| [01:48:04] | * anarcat editing wikipedia |
| [01:48:13] | <colan> | ha! was about to suggest that. |
| [01:48:38] | <roycroft> | i asked about this yesterday, but did not see any response, and i had to leave after a bit, so if you'll please indulge, i'll ask again |
| [01:48:47] | <roycroft> | we have an existing production aegir 2 machine |
| [01:48:57] | <roycroft> | we're deploying a new machine that runs aegir 3 |
| [01:49:10] | <roycroft> | i'm doing fine migration our platforms to the new machine |
| [01:49:25] | <roycroft> | but soon i'll need to migrate site management from the old aegir to the new one |
| [01:49:37] | <roycroft> | is there a best practices method to do such a migration? |
| [01:49:54] | <roycroft> | note that most of the sites are not and will not be hosted on either of the aegir machines |
| [01:50:06] | <roycroft> | i just need to migrate management of the sites from the old to the new |
| [01:50:46] | * roycroft will try to stick around for a while today, in case someone wakes up and has an interesting insight |
| [01:51:17] | <jonpugh> | so, you have added the new machine and connected it to your hostmaster site? |
| [01:51:26] | <roycroft> | no |
| [01:51:32] | <roycroft> | it's a new machine with a new hostmaster site |
| [01:51:44] | <jonpugh> | ah, and you've added platform nodes to that? |
| [01:51:53] | <roycroft> | yes, and i've done that already |
| [01:52:00] | <roycroft> | without the sites associated with the platforms |
| [01:52:05] | <jonpugh> | right |
| [01:52:09] | <roycroft> | i've copied the platforms and verified them |
| [01:52:12] | <jonpugh> | and all the platforms are the same as on the old server? |
| [01:52:47] | <jonpugh> | gotcha |
| [01:52:50] | <roycroft> | i'm copying all the production platforms from the old to the new |
| [01:53:02] | <roycroft> | the old server is some very hold hardware, so we want to retire it |
| [01:53:18] | <roycroft> | plus it's a slightly older os, and a previous attempt to upgrade the os in place did not go well |
| [01:53:35] | <roycroft> | plus we want to start deploying drupal 8 |
| [01:53:55] | <roycroft> | so for several reasons we're migrating aegir the new machine, and want to manage all our sites from the new machine |
| [01:53:55] | <jonpugh> | if you were to manually move the sites to your new server or do it with some kind of script... |
| [01:54:14] | <jonpugh> | then run platform verify, it will detect the existing sites and import them into your new hostmaster |
| [01:54:52] | <jonpugh> | sorry, mostly thinking out loud |
| [01:54:56] | <roycroft> | no worries |
| [01:54:58] | <jonpugh> | that would be tricky, i guess |
| [01:55:05] | <roycroft> | thinking out loud is a good problem solving technique |
| [01:55:06] | <jonpugh> | is the database a separate server? |
| [01:55:15] | <jonpugh> | the old DB? |
| [01:55:24] | <roycroft> | for the most part, i deploy virtual machines for the individual websites |
| [01:55:50] | <roycroft> | most of them use ssl, and aegir has issues with assigning a certificate to the correct ip address |
| [01:55:59] | <roycroft> | so i spin off a vm for a secure site |
| [01:56:05] | <roycroft> | and i run the database on the same vm as the website |
| [01:56:25] | <roycroft> | we have a few sites that do not do ssl, and they are currently hosted on the old aegir machine, with the databases on that machine |
| [01:56:39] | <roycroft> | my goal is to spin off a vm for all the non-ssl sites |
| [01:56:44] | <roycroft> | which is not the new aegir master |
| [01:56:53] | <roycroft> | and move the databases to that non-ssl vm |
| [01:57:09] | <jonpugh> | hosting_remote_import might be able to help you... |
| [01:57:16] | <jonpugh> | I have never used it personally |
| [01:57:20] | <roycroft> | i'll look at that |
| [01:57:36] | <roycroft> | fortunately i have created some sandbox vms, and have some non-production sites i can play with |
| [01:57:40] | <jonpugh> | but beyond that, it sounds like you just need to create your own script or something... |
| [01:57:51] | <roycroft> | this is all going to be thoroughly tested before i do the migration of any production sites |
| [01:57:59] | <roycroft> | sure |
| [01:58:07] | <jonpugh> | Maybe look at aegir backups as a way of transporting data to the new server |
| [01:58:11] | <roycroft> | i'm looking mostly for what would be the best approach |
| [01:58:14] | <jonpugh> | provision-backup |
| [01:58:16] | <roycroft> | i'm not really an aegir/drupal person |
| [01:58:35] | <jonpugh> | :) |
| [01:59:00] | <roycroft> | my boss was talking about cloning the production sites, deleting the original production sites, moving the ip, then cloning the clones back to the production sites |
| [01:59:07] | <roycroft> | that seems rather time-consuming and unwieldly |
| [01:59:36] | <roycroft> | i want to minimise downtime |
| [01:59:55] | <roycroft> | and i may decide to migrate them a site at a time |
| [02:00:15] | <roycroft> | but if were to, say copy the sites directory for a platform to the new machine |
| [02:00:25] | <jonpugh> | Sometimes installing a new site and then copying db and files over is easier |
| [02:00:29] | <roycroft> | and then verify that platform |
| [02:00:38] | <roycroft> | it would detect the sites and "take over" management? |
| [02:00:50] | <jonpugh> | it would run an "import" task, which creates the site node. |
| [02:00:54] | <roycroft> | ok |
| [02:01:04] | <jonpugh> | but it would need to already have database access |
| [02:01:10] | <roycroft> | and i would then restore the site's database on top of that? |
| [02:01:34] | <roycroft> | and keep in mind there are two separate scenarios here |
| [02:01:50] | <jonpugh> | move the sites/domain.com folders and the .drush/domain.com.alias.drushrc.php file |
| [02:01:58] | <roycroft> | the first, which is the majority of our sites, will be sites whose server and database are not on the aegir master |
| [02:02:24] | <jonpugh> | right which is why i think you might want to use `drush provision-backup` |
| [02:02:28] | <roycroft> | so all i have to do is create the server and database server on the new aegir master, identically as it's configured on the old one |
| [02:02:38] | <roycroft> | that's probably the easiest part of the move |
| [02:02:40] | <jonpugh> | it will take all files and db dump and put it in a tar.gz file. |
| [02:02:44] | <roycroft> | ok |
| [02:02:51] | <jonpugh> | that way you don't have to worry about where the DB is |
| [02:02:52] | <roycroft> | or i might just do it manually |
| [02:03:02] | <roycroft> | i do my nightly backups outside of aegir/drupal |
| [02:03:18] | <roycroft> | but i'll look into drush provision-backup |
| [02:03:30] | <roycroft> | i'm pretty much an old-fashioned shell guy |
| [02:03:34] | <roycroft> | i'm not much of a gui person |
| [02:03:40] | <roycroft> | but i'm also not set in my ways |
| [02:05:07] | <jonpugh> | do it manually for a few sites and use those commands to write a simple bash script for the rest |
| [02:05:16] | <jonpugh> | gotta drop, good luck roycroft |
| [02:05:37] | <roycroft> | thanks |
| [02:05:45] | <jonpugh> | try `drush provision-backup --help` for details on that command |
| [02:05:54] | <roycroft> | i don't think it will go to badly, as long as i do it and not my boss |
| [02:06:05] | <roycroft> | he has a very short attention span and no patience |
| [02:06:24] | <roycroft> | his approach is generally to try something random and pick up the pieces of whatever breaks |
| [02:06:55] | <roycroft> | my approach is to test thoroughly in a non-production environment and write a detailed procedure before doing changes like this |
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| [05:07:44] | <g1i7ch> | So.. I'm trying to delete a test site from a platform, which was verified, however the delete is failing. I'm get error: fopen(/sites/test.mysite.com/database.sql): failed to open stream: No such file or directory mysql.php:261 |
| [05:07:56] | <g1i7ch> | Then: Could not write database backup file mysqldump |
| [05:09:00] | <g1i7ch> | The site doesn't seem to exist in the /sites/ directory, however it is listed in aegir as a verified site. |
| [05:10:03] | <g1i7ch> | How do I remove the site? |
| [05:10:24] | <colan> | jonpugh: meeting? |
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| [05:15:34] | <viashimo> | g1i7ch: in cases similar to that I just go the node, it edit, and replace node/XYZ/edit with node/XYZ/delete |
| [05:18:49] | <jonpugh> | colan: sorry, can't attend this week |
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| [05:25:53] | <g1i7ch> | viashimo Thanks! I learned that trick for stalled tasks. Didn't realize you can use it for this situation. |
| [05:26:51] | <g1i7ch> | That was way too easy |
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| [06:01:03] | <helmo> | Scrum? https://appear.in/aegir |
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| [06:06:21] | <colan> | was giving us problems so back to https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ergonlogic.com/aegir-co-op |
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| [06:38:46] | <g1i7ch> | ..so.. I deleted a site. It was successfully deleted in Aegir, but it still shows up in the platform's sites directory. Is it safe to remove it from the directory? |
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