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| [00:59:32] | <colan> | hefring: tell ergonlogic do you think we can use a student's help for anything (aegir 4)? https://groups.drupal.org/node/515848 |
| [00:59:33] | <hefring> | https://groups.drupal.org/node/515848 => Google Summer of Code 2017 - Task Organization Wiki => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [00:59:33] | <hefring> | colan: I'll pass that on when ergonlogic is around. |
| [00:59:47] | <colan> | bgm: helmo jonpugh ^^^^ |
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| [01:17:18] | <bgm> | colan: imho, gsoc interns require daily check-ins and guidance, at least 1h per day, often during the night (often in India). It's a pretty big commitment. |
| [01:17:48] | <bgm> | for CiviCRM, gsoc interns often produced good proof of concepts. |
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| [03:23:21] | <colan> | bgm: we only had one meeting a week with the student I mentored last year, but I'll admit he was really on the ball. |
| [03:24:03] | <colan> | but i suppose it could be for students that require a lot of guidance. |
| [03:24:10] | <bgm> | oh, i forgot about that |
| [03:25:14] | <colan> | was only a few hours a month for me. |
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| [07:36:55] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: do you know whether Koumbit maintains a Debian repo? |
| [07:36:55] | <hefring> | ergonlogic: 6 hours 37 min ago <colan> tell ergonlogic do you think we can use a student's help for anything (aegir 4)? https://groups.drupal.org/node/515848 |
| [07:44:53] | <ergonlogic> | colan: sure, but it's still at a pretty low-level stage, atm. I'd be happy to be a co-mentor |
| [07:49:07] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: i think they used to, not sure anymore - why? |
| [07:49:15] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: there's certainly something on the jenkins server, that i remember |
| [07:51:27] | <colan> | ergonlogic: did you ever hear back from the suse folks? |
| [07:52:40] | <colan> | re GSOC, if anyone has any specific ideas, we can propose it on that wiki page. Drupal is still waiting to see if the org can get funding this year. Hasn't gone through yet. |
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| [08:47:31] | <colan> | Yay, just got this done (except for a bug in Services): https://www.drupal.org/node/2796625 |
| [08:47:32] | <hefring> | https://www.drupal.org/node/2796625 => Allow remote variable setting via Aegir Services [#2796625] => 8 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [08:48:27] | <ergonlogic> | colan: there was an automated update to the ticket that my email generated. nothing since |
| [08:48:53] | <colan> | roger that. |
| [08:49:06] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: the server where we're running debian.aegirproject.org is going to decommissioned in a couple months |
| [08:49:24] | <anarcat> | really |
| [08:49:28] | <ergonlogic> | so we're looking for alternatives to maintaining it ourselves |
| [08:49:44] | <anarcat> | i see |
| [08:49:51] | <anarcat> | well there are public services for this now |
| [08:49:58] | <anarcat> | there's ubuntu's PPA stuff |
| [08:50:16] | <anarcat> | then there's openSUSE builders, which i know very little about |
| [08:50:18] | <ergonlogic> | yeah, we're considering openSUSE |
| [08:50:19] | <anarcat> | but it's a thing now |
| [08:50:32] | * anarcat shrugs |
| [08:50:46] | <anarcat> | you can also ask koumbit, of course |
| [08:50:59] | <anarcat> | but maybe it'd be better to not depend on a private organization, in this specific case... |
| [08:51:03] | <anarcat> | it's just a package builder after all |
| [08:51:12] | <anarcat> | and it's not something koumbit was doing particularly well, even when i was around |
| [08:51:33] | <ergonlogic> | well, we're probably going to do the package building in Travis or some other CI |
| [08:51:46] | <ergonlogic> | so, it's really only the repository we're looking for |
| [08:52:02] | <anarcat> | uh |
| [08:52:10] | <anarcat> | travis doesn't provide a webserver for artifacts? |
| [08:52:31] | <ergonlogic> | sure, but it's not structure asan apt repo |
| [08:52:36] | <anarcat> | i mean in the end, it's just a matter of exposing some files |
| [08:52:43] | <anarcat> | yeah but you could run the necessary magic... |
| [08:52:58] | <ergonlogic> | we're trying to minimize the magic we have to maintain :) |
| [08:53:00] | <anarcat> | building the apt repo files could be part of this |
| [08:53:02] | <anarcat> | i can imagine |
| [08:53:17] | <anarcat> | i can see the point of treating the apt repo as a black box |
| [08:53:32] | <anarcat> | btw, i am writing a series about passwords for LWN |
| [08:53:45] | <anarcat> | you guys may be interested, since aegir/drupal may be generating passwords for users |
| [08:53:50] | <ergonlogic> | since we already have the native debian scripts, etc, and it's reaonably well-documented, we should be able to automate that part |
| [08:53:58] | <anarcat> | https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/713806/f43f8fca9c10099a/ |
| [08:53:59] | <ergonlogic> | of course |
| [08:54:40] | <ergonlogic> | this is still a draft, at this point? |
| [08:55:17] | <anarcat> | no, this is published |
| [08:55:23] | <anarcat> | subscriber only, but i'm sharing :) |
| [08:55:37] | <anarcat> | i encourage everyone to subscribe to LWN so i can produce more nice articles like this :) |
| [08:55:41] | <ergonlogic> | ah, ok , thanks :) |
| [08:58:23] | <anarcat> | you're welcome :) |
| [09:00:07] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: just subscribed :) |
| [09:00:16] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: awesome, thanks!! |
| [09:17:52] | <MrAdamJohn[m]> | Hey anarcat nice writeup... I have a method for secure authentication that does not readily reveal the "something you know" even under direct human observation. It's actually quite simple. Happy to share - perhaps we can post a follow up article together. |
| [09:18:19] | <anarcat> | i'd be happy to hear more |
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| [09:18:35] | <anarcat> | i use a bunch of those methods - ssh, x509 certs, openpgp... |
| [09:19:47] | <MrAdamJohn[m]> | This is for average users. No self respecting techie doesnt use keys today given a choice. ;) I'm getting on a plane in under an hour .. can connect out of channel if you like. |
| [09:21:01] | <anarcat> | sure |
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| [09:28:48] | <colan> | MrAdamJohn[m]: I'm interested in that too so please keep me in the loop; I'm currently working on this as part of a client project. |
| [09:35:15] | <MrAdamJohn[m]> | Cool... I've only built POC. If there's client funding we can certainly do more. |
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